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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: sammi5

Rivs,

It is your two cents and mines that makes the difference, we are all responsible for this if we do not speak up and let our voices be heard, I read the concerns on this Forum everyday and at everyone's outrage, where are the people on the Forum who give us this privilege to have a voice, what are they doing about this, do you pass our voices on to the people concerned like Zee TV and Balaji, You also have a responsibility to do something, whether you agree with us or not we need balance presently we have You to convey our message and we hope we can trust You to do that because this madness on Kasamh Se is getting from bad to worse, it is outrageous that People are given the Green light to put out this message and Nationwide that is the supporting agent should be sent a mail as well.

As for what I have been doing about my concerns, I email people at Zee. Bavie(aperture) and I have even planned on starting a blog, unfortunately we are both working fulltime too and hence are not able to give the blog enough time.

Bavie has even contacted other NGOs for their support, so on the side we have stuff going on, but since this is a KS forum, we do not make posts about it here.

There are a bunch of us who regularly discuss this and you are welcome to join us. The more the merrier😉

Plus the main focus of this forum is to discuss the serials and not really act as a medium between the makers and the audience. If someone wants to take this up, it would be great.

Rivs

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Rivs I am sorry I assumed that the Forum operated differently. You always do a great job and I trust that this post brings out the outrage we all feel to include the Forum staff as well. If you can give me the emails to Balaji and Zee I would take this up and make this my cause, enough is enough and they are not indispensable no matter what their society status is. The backbone of India is based on the strength and dedication of one man who sacrificed his life for the unheard voices, Mahatma Ghandi, look at where we are today as a Nation, we have a voice, let us make a difference with it. You say it enough someone will have to listen.
Posted: 18 years ago
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welldone ,wonderfull post sammi 👏 what yuo said is totallyu right .very well written
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Nicely written post but I differ with you on certain points. I fuully agree that it is wrong of BT to depict the triumph of bad over good and I hate Pia but that is not what her show is all about.Without sounding defensive for her actions all I will say is the mesage Ekta is trying to put forward is that everything has a point of saturation. Be it Bani's utmost faith in her sister, her sacrifices,her endless love, etc. or Pia's evil deeds. Bnai lost out on everything because of her goodness. A person should be good , tolerant but not upto the point of insanity and their scale is balanced with abit of eveil inside that should surface once in a while to reprimand the culprits. The moment her goodness imbalanced the scale, her life turned upside down. Similarily Pia has still some space left for stauration. When her scale will get imbalanced she will be left at a point of no redemption.

In BT serial the main protogonist may go hrough hell but is never a victim of injustice for long.
Edited by mahimn - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Wow, what a beautiful post 👏.

Okay, now I have two things to say and they both are very different from each other.

Firstly, I am not defending Ekta, but the truth is she makes these shows for the lower middle class of society(and I am not saying they don't notice the bloopers or don't have the same understanding as us) but there is a reason they watch them giving them high TRP, and I will tell you why they are popular with them despite all things wrong shown.

Movie tickets in india, I am not sure the exact price, but I am pretty sure they are atleast 100 Rupees a ticket, hence the lower middle class family can't all really afford it.

English tv shows on cable, a lot of them they do not understand and is not something they will consider entertaining.

What is left? Ekta's shows, they have everything, they have the romance, the drama, the big sets, the glamorous costumes, even the item numbers, often times her shows have exact same scenes from movies, which frustrates all of us b/c we have seen these movies, and we say she lacks creativity. However, the people who can't afford these movies, enjoy such scenes, and get entertained.

Ekta's main character ALWAYS comes from a lower middle class family, who somehow gets her life entangled with the lives of the rich and famous. Now, many lower middle class women, will find it entertaining, b/c it is life they can dream about, fantasize about, and also seeing how miserable lives of rich people eventually get, may even make them thankful for their own simpler lives.

If you will have noticed, ever since Ekta's shows came on the market, Indian movies have also become a lot better, quality wise, like more subject focused. Look at 2006 for example, movies like Rang de basanti, Lage raho munna bhai, Dor and the list goes on. Since now the melodrama, rona-dhona, sing-song, fairy tale romances is all being delivered on the small screen, people do not need bollywood to provide that anymore, bollywood movies are venturing out into newer subjects, breaking away from cliches and churning up a lot more creative and inovative movies because now all the classic melodrama that the indian audience love is being delivered by TV.

Now coming back to my second point about Ekta's shows and the message she is putting out.

I totally agree with you it is very wrong what she shows, concering affairs, marriages, and evil people winning. Especially in the name of "Balaji". I think she does need to go back and re-think a lot of her storylines!!! Looking at other Zee shows, I do feel some positivity though, as they show evil however they balance it out with good, look at Saloni, a new issue comes up but it gets solved, Dulhan, Maayka, all of them have a good balance. And like you said a show that makes you angry and frustrated is not entertainment! Even the audience that once immensely loved Ekta's shows is now getting fed up and turning to other shows, hence Zee closing in on Star. Even the lower middle class wants entertainment, that Ekta used to deliver at one point, but now she has become so sure of her one formula that I think she has forgotten the main goal of entertainment. When Ekta started she had no competition, but now there is so much competition, if she does not rethink her shows and reinvent, it will be difficult for her to keep her shows going...

After all it is a law of nature...What goes up must come down!

In the End, like Gandhiji said: "Be the change you want to see in the world!" If you believe Ekta is showing wrong things, shut the TV off, she will eventually get the message! And by shutting the TV off you will not only be getting the message to her, but also saving energy that will benefit our earth 😉

That was a long post, but your post was so beautifully written 👏 I could not help myself. But I have to say, don't challenge Ekta to change her storylines, challenge yourself to not watch her shows in the hopes that one day everything will get better, b/c watching them day after day despite the frustration will not get the message to her, it will just reinforce to her that her formula of stretching and dragging the storyline as much as possible does work by keeping the audience glued on...😊 ...Just take the remote and press the power button 😊

Edited by Saregama_fan - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Wow....yaar totally agree with you 😊 😊 😊 ....man u tell her 😃 😃 ...very well put out 👏
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Saregama-Fan,

Thank You for your info anad yes I can understand the reasoning behind the audience she targets but this is worldwide now nad even so, the fact that people are not in a financial situation to afford Movies does not mean that they should be subjest to this, most times all they have is their faith and that is why I asked for the message. About tuning out, is one aspect of making a point but if I do tune out then I say to all I am a quitter and I am not a quitter.
I will contiue to monitor this show, nothing is wrong in showing someones evil side but as you stated in Saat Phere, they move on, you deal with the issues and move on, my point is balance and holding people accountable. I appreciate that you took the time to read my post and to analize it, I am better of for it because we can all look at things from different perspective however I still feel that enough is enough when making a point and Ekta is going to far now.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: sammi5

From all indication, I am of the opinion that Kasamh Se is heading towards another victory for the monster of a character Pia, again Jai is being silent and it would seem that she would use even helpless Kids to achieve her goals, with all the feathers on her cap so far is what leads me to this post I Challenge You Ms Kapoor to prove me wrong when I say to you that wearing a Tikha on your head and saying You are religious is not the only thing that makes you religious but to be part of Evil getting away with and the innocent always being victimized even in this unreal world you have created says so much about you and your beliefs.

Actions speak louder than words and the point if you try to tell us to eventually show that Evil is defeated in the end is your answer, then how come you have scenes with both Evil characters and Good characters both praying and asking God for victory and God grants victory for the past year in your created world to the Evil constantly, now in your created world even after five years your Evil is still reigning, where is this the work of a religious minded person, where is the balance, none, for the past year and in your world 5years we see that the devil triumps, waht is your message, you put out these shows, what is your message, don't tell me that I don't have to watch it if I don't like what I see but I do have to more now to hold You accountable for the message, waht is your message that People it is okay to lie, cheat, frame peole for crimes, destroy their lives nad get away with it, in your world people can, look at Pia and Jigs Pia just 100% Evil and Jigs manipulative. Pia is rewarded for her evil ways with everything she dreamed about glitz and glamour and so is Jigs, I am not caught up with the serial like some junkie, I am all about the message you send out with the Forum you are blessed to have and this is my challenge to you Ms Kapoor prove me wrong, prove to me that Evil is not rewarded for in your world but that you do believe in Good and that Good triumps for once. This is my true feelings on what is going on , to those who feel that I should just tune out it is just entertainment, when was the last time you laughed, this is not entertainment when it makes you angry and disgusted, I did not make this a religious issue, the Production Team of Kasamh Se did and I feel as a Good Citizen I am obligated to address this because I am just as guilty if I Put Up And Shut Up.

well written hun 😊 firstly and great that you put these views across 👏. I dont think ekta has a person should be compared with the person making the show because to a extent they not her views, also i really dont think in any show they do show evil triumph over good just evil regins for a bit thats all...but again it is really annoying how long pias been doing this all to her sister and makes me madder so ekta for viewers bp sake should do something soon! 😆

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Posted: 18 years ago
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very very well written 👏 i agree with u..if she was so religious in real life she wouldnt show things like on janmastami in front of god things get stolen and bad things happen..despite all the puja and prayers bani did she suffered the most 😭 ekta herself said her serials influence peoples lives so this is what despite being so religious she wants to potray to the people?

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