WHY Mala Matters ALREADY, and will matter MORE.

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Sumneet

@Zeffy

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Posted: 11 years ago

#61

@Napsterji

Wow, the way you analyzed Mala and shed some light on her is truly commendable, you were way ahead of all of us, and predicted it right. No wonder, you may have lost interest in yesterday's episode like the most of us. Aapka post was in our minds throughout the episode.

@ACTywm
Well I did notice, that you happened to mention some of my, I must say, worst framed lines, but you seem to make so much sense out of it. I mixed two languages and ran out of english words to translate and your response and addition to it took that to whole new level. I would like to thank you for that and help me realise that I need to work on my grammar skills ASAP.

Wow, Napster ji ke comments too are equally thought-provoking and encouraging and shows how well the ones repsonding respect her and ensure that they keep the discussion lively.

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Radhika

@YellowBoots

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+ 6

Posted: 11 years ago

#62

Brilliant, brilliant post.

I was very disturbed by some hardcore right-wing opinions on Mala and how she is a sad comment on motherhood, so it is refreshing to see nuance and someone who is able to look at the person and her decisions as that of a human than her as a 'woman'.

You really should write this show. We would be absolutely devoted and spellbound by it. On second thoughts, probably not. We are already so invested even with the choppy writing 😆

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Navya

@Navyya

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+ 3

Posted: 11 years ago

#63

Originally posted by: SherryGS
"She created her son's salvation after she became the reason for his devastation. "

Very well said. This is Mala. She is not perfect. She is so human. So full of flaws. We should not forget that she is a mother, and she was a good mother, until she made a faithfully flawed choice.

In that case, Laila is human too , loves Rudra a lot so why hold anything against her. Whatever her flaws, her love for Rudra can not be questioned .

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antiquegold

@antiquegold

Voyager

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Posted: 11 years ago

#64

Originally posted by: babyji

In that case, Laila is human too , loves Rudra a lot so why hold anything against her. Whatever her flaws, her love for Rudra can not be questioned .

Well said. In two episodes, Rudra has (dis) qualified both these womens love. He decried Lailas so called love when he threw her out, and he told Paro just what he thought of his mothers love. Khudgarzi. Ghinoni.

It matters not what we think of Mala or Laila. What matters is what Rudra thought of them, thinks of them, and if Paro is different. Paros interleaving with his past, her dreams of him, the bus, his mother, are but links in the chain that connects them together. These are the obstacles and the stepping stones, both, that these soulmates will encounter in their journey to each other.

It all boils down to that , I think... Whether we believe in soulmates or not!

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Navya

@Navyya

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+ 3

Posted: 11 years ago

#65

Originally posted by: Oldestfan

Well said. In two episodes, Rudra has (dis) qualified both these womens love. He decried Lailas so called love when he threw her out, and he told Paro just what he thought of his mothers love. Khudgarzi. Ghinoni.

It matters not what we think of Mala or Laila. What matters is what Rudra thought of them, thinks of them, and if Paro is different. Paros interleaving with his past, her dreams of him, the bus, his mother, are but links in the chain that connects them together. These are the obstacles and the stepping stones, both, that these soulmates will encounter in their journey to each other.

It all boils down to that , I think... Whether we believe in soulmates or not!

Rudra calling her mom selfish Ghinoni etc are justified but yes, the way he handled Laila wasn't upto the mark. She deserved a little respect.

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Deepa

@Deedeepa1

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+ 5

Posted: 11 years ago

#66

Amazing post
Looove love love it
Totally agree

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ACTywm

@ACTywm

Dazzler

+ 5

Posted: 11 years ago

#67

Ipkkndcrazy1 and nema123 thank you sooo much for your compliments...and having the patience to read through my long winded thoughts...😛

@babyji

"Mala brought Parvati up in the very real sense of the word, teaching her exactly those elements of herself that Rudra is completely bestotted by today."
But don't you find discrepancies in what Mala actually did & what she preached ? Isn't it the height of hypocracy?

Very apt question and yes I do and yet I don't. No I'm not messed up in the head, well may be I am and don't realise it, but that is a whole other debate which would take years to come to any conclusion, we are talking about Mala...😛

See on face value it seems she is a hypocrite for she hasn't practiced what she has preached...but when you think about it one doesn't actually know what she has preached, we have only assumed from Paaro's actions...we don't really know what Mala has taught Paaro with regard to marriage... or if we have then I admit I have forgotten as I don't exactly recall what "words of wisdom" she may have related to Paaro at the time of her marriage so I cannot say whether she has breached those words or not...

From what I remember of her teachings is that she has generally only talked about love and fairytale romances...of a how a prince will come and whisk her away...so technically we, or I, initially have assumed through Paaro's actions that whatever her (Paaro's) views on marriage are have been shaped by Mala, however this may not be the case, that is, Paaro's views on marriage may not be shaped by Mala but rather her own mother or mami sa may have shaped it, while Paaro's views on love may be shaped by Mala...n if that is the case then I don't think she may have been a hypocrite...because from what we see of Paaro's love, we can say is the same for Mala's love...that is, to submit oneself completely and wholly to the one you love, do everything and anything for him, forget everything/everyone else, including yourself...and that is true to Paaro's love as we have seen by her actions and by her confession in today's episode and this is also true of Mala's love...

So the question is exactly what Mala taught Paaro...if she taught her to marry the one she loves (which Paaro has done) and do all for that person, then Mala has not been a hypocrite for she has done the same, married the man she loved - Thakur and done everything for him, including leaving her own husband and child, with no regrets until now, when she realises the man she loves is not who she thought him to be.

But if she taught Paaro to love the man you marry, then she is a hypocrite for she didn't do that, she didn't love Dilsher, hence left him...and if this is what she taught Paaro then Paaro too didn't take heed of it as she didn't do this either if she had done this she would have married Sumer not Rudra...but she could not marry a man she didn't love and then in this case Paaro's view on marriage couldn't be shaped by Mala...

So first I guess we need to figure out exactly what teaching Mala gave her and then see whether either of the two follow that teaching or not...I think she gave the first teaching where she tells her you should marry the person you love, for two reasons:

one as she herself did that

and second because she learns from her mistake and so doesn't want the girl who is like her daughter to commit the same mistake...

what mistake is that? Of being in a loveless marriage, she may have realised at an unconscious level, at the time she taught Paaro, that by being in a loveless marriage she was open to fall in love with another man and therefore break her family in order to pursue that love...and so to not want Paaro to make the same mistake and end up at the difficult crossroad of which to chose: a loveless-marriage and family or a life with your love she may have given her the advice to do it right the first time and marry the one you love...

You may ask if this was the case and Paaro would only marry the one she loved then why did she marry Varun...well she thinks she is in love with Varun or believes that he will fall in love with him, for all his sweet talks charm her and so she has no fear of marrying him...so even with marrying Varun Paaro follows the teaching of marry the one you love rather than love the one you marry...

I hope that clarifies things...or rather my view of things...😊

@zeffy2k2

lol...I don't know about you but your post made a lot of sense to me and I really enjoyed reading it and those lines especially stuck in my head as it got the wheels inside churning...hence noted it down and explained what it made me think, however, reading it back I too can spot many grammar mistakes in my writing, I guess that happens when our brains are ten miles ahead of our slow hands therefore making us skip words and mix hindi n english together...😛 but I wouldn't have it any other way as if you don't pen it as you think it you generally end up forgetting it...so I say make the grammar mistakes we can decode them but never stop penning your posts as we will lose valid insight on the beautiful yet complex characters and story of this incredible show Rangrasiya...and of course how can it not have so many different layers, considering the title itself states that it is about a man of many shades 😊

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ACTywm

@ACTywm

Dazzler

+ 5

Posted: 11 years ago

#68

@babyji

Thank you. I just read it. I have been discussing about Mala so much that it's reached a stage where it has started depressing me so that's why I didn't reply back. No logic ( in my case ) can justify a mother leaving her child for another man.

I totally understand...its the same for me too, I presented her reasoning, in my opnion, of why she left as she wanted to be with the man she married...for that is her love so selfish and selfless at the same time...selfish because it only thinks of the one person they love...selfless...because by thinking only of that person she leaves behind everything that may or should have mattered to her...her family...

But having given that reason it does not mean I understand or accept or feel satisifed by such a decision...for me too it is not justifiable...whatever reason they end up giving in the show will not change the 15 yrs Rudra lives with hurt and hate inside of him...for a reason that had nothign to do with him and yet he had to pay the biggest price for...his childhood, his innocence, his ability to trust...and that is why I feel like he should never forgive her either...as it's an indian show I can expect that somewhere down the line she will be accepted into the family but I don't want Rudra to forgive her...I will allow him to make peace and accept her for Paaro's sake, as she was a mother to her and so did a good thing for Paaro...but I wouldn't want to see a reconciled mother and son...because in my opinion it just wouldn't be right, not after the way she has broken him...he can heal and become whole because of his wife's love not his mother's not anymore...that is what I feel and I really hope the creatives don't make him thaw and go all warm against her...he should maintain a cold, indifferent relationship with her not an attached one...she doesn't deserve it...not in my opinion...regardless of how much she repents...her repenting will not heal him, if anything it will hurt him more to see that she regrets the decision...

Because cold as it, is one can move on if they see that the person they love (his mother in this case) has no regrets in leaving him...that they are happy and fine without them...seeing them happy it makes them realise there is no point pining over them best to move on...but when you see that they are not happy and actually regret it hurts you more because you cannot trust them again, too afraid they would leave you again and at the same time you can see they love you...so it's the thing where try as you may you can't be with them...for the lack of trust stops you...the latter is the more painful situation...and so her repenting will only hurt him...so I would rather he never lets her back in the house...but if he does and if Dilsher wants her back then fine he should agree for Dilsher and Paaro but make it clear he has no relationship with her...jsut the way he makes it clear that he has no relationship with Kaki sa...

anyway lets see what the creatives do...the one thing I do like about these guys is that they do try to be different so...fingers crossed hopefully they won't make rudra forgive and forget...😊

sorry I have written an essay again...I think I am incapable of replying in short responses...😳 oh n it's totally cool if you don't feel up to replying I get it...after some time it does get depressing discussing her...cuz no matter how many seemingly reasonable reasons presented...she still wronged her son...and that fact won't change.😕

Edited by ACTywm - 11 years ago