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Lovely post, a few posts that make sense and understand the characters as they are, yours is one among them
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Originally posted by: napstermonster

Mala created Parvati.


We the audience can run from this fact all we like, but the show would like us to know this. Rudra has known this since the day he saw the mother/daughter style picture of them in Thakur's Haveli. And symbolically, it is Mala who tells Parvati about the man who will come, one day, to take her away, to give her a life and a love which she is completely unaware of---her own son, Rudra. And leaving her son orphaned without having lost a single parent, Mala as the Thakurain chose this orphaned village girl to lavish her love on. She gives Rudra's share of her upbringing, to a lost Birpuri child she has identified as her own. Parvati is the one Birpuri bride she symbolically gifts her wedding jewellry and kangans to at the start of the show--- a gift to a daughter(wedding set) and a daughter-in-law (kangans) both.

And aside from giving Parvati away in marriage like a mother, with the belief her husband has found her a perfect match, not a horror-show of a future, Mala also teaches this girl everything she knows about goodness and female virtues. Her Mami-sa is not the one Parvati thanks for her expertise with her kalakari. She says Mala has taught her music, Mala instilled her bhakti to the god Bholenath who she herself worships. Mala has shaped Parvati's nature, her innocence, even her future. Mala needs to be a true believer if she has named her son after Shiv-ji---as she has. Thus again, Mala gives Parvati, indirectly, what she wants---a husband who is "Bholenath ki naam ka." Mala brought Parvati up in the very real sense of the word, teaching her exactly those elements of herself that Rudra is completely bestotted by today.


Mala created Parvati, and Parvati is now re-creating Mala's son. The wounds that Mala left, when she left her son home and husband for the Thakur are wounds Paro is slowly filling in---using what MALA has taught her--- the music, the kindness, the love, the devotion to her god/man. She is Mala's daughter. Adopted in all but name. She wanted to have Parvati as a daughter-in-law, for her son, someday. Her god, Bholenath, took care of that wish for her. She is why Rudra has this Parvati. We cannot hate Mala, Rudra cannot hate her, for no reason other than just this. Parvati as she is today is because Mala left Rudra, came to Birpur and became Parvati's mother. She created her son's salvation after she became the reason for his devastation.


I wold go so far as to say---Mala needed to abandon Rudra to create who he has become now as well. Rudra would not be the emotionally strong, intelligent, honorable and still devious and intimidating man he is today without that childhood abandonment, without those 15 years of hurt. If you want to see who he could have turned to, had he lived in the Haveli with an unhappy mother who stayed behind even though she clearly loved someone else, and with Kakisa having access to him for 15 years---look at Samrat or Sumer. That's who Rudra would have been like.


Mala created Parvati. Mala created Rudra. How she did it, why she did it will pale before the fact--- she did it. Nothing that happens now, no revelation in the future will change this. Rudra is a protector of good and a destroyer of evil. The Thakur, the "Evil" should be a smarter man than this. Giving back to Rudra and to Parvati the person who is their creative-force, who is BOTH their sources of maternal love is a stupid, stupid idea. It will undo the one weakness, it will repair the one broken foundation Rudra has in him, and it will give back to Parvati a mother she longs for. A mother who will give her strength to protect and support Rudra just by existing in the same house as her children. Returning Mala, in an exchange?


If I was the Thakur, I would recognize something about Mala that is really quite terrifying--when she loves you, you prosper. When she leaves you, you decay. And she does not do second chances --she loves passionately, to the extent of forgetting everyone else for that love. And when she leaves, she never turns back, never even thinks of the devastation she leaves behind. And that is what she does to those people she feels love for. The Thakur is someone Mala hates. If I was him, it is MALA who I'd fear, right now.



Brilliant as usual! Was not expecting a post on Mala from you naps! I watched today's episode after reading your post but i am commenting on it much later...I think it seriously helped me get a good perspective of Paro's behaviour today.

Also, did u notice how Mala was trying to hang on to the conversation between Thakur-sa and Laila before they took it to the daaru session in the other room? Looks like she will have her own role to play in the oncoming track helping Rudra nail Tejawat in the final closure...that seemed like a clear indication of her invlovement to me! What say?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#53
Beautiful post.
Never thought of Mala in this way.
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An incredible post and take on Mala...I totally agree with you, as much as we may dislike her for her actions of abandoning her child, we CANNOT deny the fact that she is an ESSENTIAL character in RR and pivotal to PaRud. HER ACTION INTENTIONALLY/UNINTENTIONALLY MAKE THEM!
Mala brought Parvati up in the very real sense of the word, teaching her exactly those elements of herself that Rudra is completely bestotted by today.

There is a saying that goes, men fall for women like their mother and women fall for men like their father...I personally feel this is very true and it is evident here with Rudra...and Paaro (for Paaro see's shiv as her father and Mala/Mami sa as her mother) anyway talking about Rudra...when the Laila-Rudra past came out many asked how he can fall for Paaro and not for Laila when he has bedded Laila for so long...well along with the gazillions of reasons given then...this is another one, that Paaro harnesses all the praiseworthy qualities of Mala...she is the younger, and purer version of Mala in sorts therefore he falls for her and not for Laila, as Laila is nothing like his mother. Rudra always loved his mother and when he meets Paaro those same qualities start to move his heart and he falls for her...

When he realises that his mother raised her...he tries to push her away angry at her, hating her...as Maithali says when Paaro falls sick after standing in the rain...deep down you yourself know that Paaro is innocent but are using the fire and Sunehri's statement as reasons to keep her away from you...why does he want to keep her away because he hates the fact that Mala was a mother to her those 15 yrs when he needed a mother...but he realises the more he pushes Paaro away the more she pushes back, because she loves him...some where along this pushing and pulling he comes to realise that not only can he not stand hurting her but that she doesn't deserve to be hated for getting Mala's love...come to think of it the jaipur trip may have done this...for this is when due to geetanjli paaro brings up their first meeting...recalling that meeting I guess he realises that he cannot begrudge Paaro for his mother's actions...and like you say in your second post this will be Mala's saving grace the fact that she was a mother to an orphan Paaro even if she left her son orphaned without realising...

He adores his Paro, and his mother was there for his adored wife when her own parents were dead. He will hate Mala for what she did to him, personally. He will thank Mala for what she did for Paro.


And this is how he will forgive her. Through Paro, because of Paro.


The only thing he will be thankful to her for: being the mother to Paaro that she couldn't be to him. You see that with the way he tones down in today's episode and apologises the next morning for getting angry at her, telling her in not so many words that he is angry at his mother for abandoning him not at her for receiving a mother's love from her, which is what Paaro was afraid of and apologised for when she comes in to the room for not realising how her memories with Mala will upset him...


In her head, the Rudra she left that evening after putting him to bed and the Rudra of today--the gap of 15 years is just a time lapse--not a complete shift in who he has become. I am waiting to see how she deals with what Dilsher has done to their kid, and for her to realize that it was HER cruelty and her selfishness that resulted in this twisted, bitter and broken man standing where her adored little boy used to be.

I really like what you said here...yes she fails to realise and doesn't even take the hint when Danveer tries to tell her that Rudra is no longer the same boy she left him as...here a I see a similarity between Mala and Paaro...their naivety or ignorance, I don't know which one better explains...or may be their ability to live in a dreamworld, with Paaro we see this before she is rudely awakened by to Rudra's past with Laila...her dreamworld regarding who Rudra is...and with Mala it is this, her belief that when she meets her son he will come running into her arms...uh not going to happen sweet-heart...probably never, as I personally feel he should never go on to lovable terms with her...I will accept him accepting her and making peace with her eventually, but it would make my heart cry for Rudra I see today if he goes and rests his head lovingly in his mother's lap...I don't know but I just can't accept that, because in my opinion regardless of her reasons and her repentance she should not get all the happinness when she took it away from her son, her happiness should be in the fact that her husband and son forgive her and let her be a part of their lives, that is it...well that is what I feel anyway...lets see what will happen...

Anyway coming back to the point...yes Mala is in lala-land when it comes to Rudra not realising that Rudra hates her, because he loved her sooo much...n when the mother-son meeting finally does take place it will be interesting to see her shock and how she takes it...what I would like to see would be her at some point turning towards Dilsher and asking him how he could abandon their son and let him turn this sour...only to get a retort back from Dilsher/Rudra or Mohini...yes I would love for Mohini to say it her taunting way...not out of love for Rudra because of course she doesn't love him but out of hatred for her sister...just to make her feel even more little that you are more to blame for his jallad-state than Dilsher, who may not have been a parent but was always there for Rudra did provide for him and raise and made him the man he is today...while I agree with you on Mala having an important role making Major Rudra Pratap Ranawat, I also believe credit goes to Dilsher too for making him...as Mala's abandonment makes him the independent, ruthless, fearless warrior, it is Dilsher's bitter-but-always present status that makes him loyal, while his possessiveness over his son and protection of his son bring about those two qualities in him too...possessiveness shown by Dilsher taking Rudra with him and keeping him with him...and protectiveness in the story which Rudra relates before he receives his medal of how Dilsher told his teacher that Rudra would indeed acheive great heights one day, he may not have been the best father but he did take care of him and did instigate some very important values in him...

Also after Mala enters Parud's life I would like to to see a Paaro Mala scene too, where she sides with her husbaand and asks how she could abandon her own son...I mean I know and expect Paaro to help them come together...but I want to see a scene where Paaro should feel a little hurt and betrayed by this abandonment and should voice it in front of Mala...saying how she could do it to her own son and husband when she taught her the true sanctity of marriage and motherhood...

Mala created Parvati. Mala created Rudra.
Rudra is a protector of good and a destroyer of evil. The Thakur, the "Evil" should be a smarter man than this. Giving back to Rudra and to Parvati the person who is their creative-force, who is BOTH their sources of maternal love is a stupid, stupid idea. It will undo the one weakness, it will repair the one broken foundation Rudra has in him, and it will give back to Parvati a mother she longs for. A mother who will give her strength to protect and support Rudra just by existing in the same house as her children.

If I was the Thakur, I would recognize something about Mala that is really quite terrifying--when she loves you, you prosper. When she leaves you, you decay. And she does not do second chances --she loves passionately, to the extent of forgetting everyone else for that love. And when she leaves, she never turns back, never even thinks of the devastation she leaves behind. And that is what she does to those people she feels love for. The Thakur is someone Mala hates. If I was him, it is MALA who I'd fear, right now.

Very true and very aptly said. Thakur fails to realise this...being evil makes him smart but also makes him desperate and arrogant and therefore liable to stupidities like this. If he wasn't in a desperate situation or arrogant, he would realise that one Rudra will never make any sort of deal with, whether Mala is part of it or not. Two, he has met Rudra and seen just how protective he is of Paaro and that was before he fell in love with her, so there is no chance he would give up Paaro, even in return for his mother...he would give up anything for Paaro but would never give-up Paaro...and Laila to should realise this if she was thinking with a clear head as she has seen it in front of her eyes just how much he cares for Paaro...but both Laila and Thakur are blinded...Thakur by arrogance and desperation, Laila by jealousy/love/obsession which makes her miss the biggest point that one Rudra would never exchange Paaro for anyone and two especially not for his mother who she knows he hates, as she abandoned him. So they both fail to realise how the Mala card will backfire on these accounts and then of course because she is not just anyone but like you said the creator of these Parud and what do Paaro, Rudra have in common? Stubborness, strength, patriotism...and if these two have these qualites in them then you know Mala must too, as she is the one who has created their characters...thus they, especially Thakur underestimates his wife, like you say

when she loves you, you prosper. When she leaves you, you decay.

A quality that is seen in Paaro too, when she loves you you prosper, Tejawat was untouchable while Paaro believed his lies...when she hates you decay...the moment she learns the truth he loses everything...this is seen with Rudra too, she hates him nothing goes his way and he faces enquiry at BSD she loves him and his case is no longer a question and his job no longer on the line...both these women are wild-cards...game-changers and Thakur and Laila underestimate them both...now put theem both together and you can be sure to find Thakur and Laila both losing everything...

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Yes he needs to fear the wrath of ek Ma ki mamta being stolen, she is going to make him pay big time. She is after all a sherni who would develop "cheer ke rakh doongi" wale tactics to make Thakur sa go weak in his knees. She is now definitely on the look out to protect her cub and thus the hunt shall begin!!

which got me thinking, that while Paaro is no doubt Mala's protoge...but Mala being Rudra's mother means both must have some similar traits...other than the eyes...(which hats off to casting who cast two actors with similar eyes...ashish and sadiya's eyes aren't the same of course but their eyes colour's are very similar, anyway coming back to the point) another trait that binds them is their 'cheer ke rakh daina' if someone dares wrong them or their loved one they will not rest until that person perishes...now Thakur has not only wronged Mala he has made her wrong her son and is threatening to hurt her son...she will make him pay for it, she is after all Rudra's mother, no hippy who will let it go...she has fire in her just the way her son does...and so Thakur will soon learn that the fire that burns inside her can spread warmth in the form love and destruction in the form of hatred, he experienced the first for fifteen year now he will experience the latter and will burn in it...

oki wow...I think I have numbed your brain enough with my musings...so I shall rest my pen and give you some rest from my long-winded thoughts...

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"She created her son's salvation after she became the reason for his devastation. "

Very well said. This is Mala. She is not perfect. She is so human. So full of flaws. We should not forget that she is a mother, and she was a good mother, until she made a faithfully flawed choice.


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Waw ...absolutely loved loved your post...
You are very talented. ..God bless you.
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Originally posted by: ACTywm

An incredible post and take on Mala...I totally agree with you, as much as we may dislike her for her actions of abandoning her child, we CANNOT deny the fact that she is an ESSENTIAL character in RR and pivotal to PaRud. HER ACTION INTENTIONALLY/UNINTENTIONALLY MAKE THEM!

Mala brought Parvati up in the very real sense of the word, teaching her exactly those elements of herself that Rudra is completely bestotted by today.

There is a saying that goes, men fall for women like their mother and women fall for men like their father...I personally feel this is very true and it is evident here with Rudra...and Paaro (for Paaro see's shiv as her father and Mala/Mami sa as her mother) anyway talking about Rudra...when the Laila-Rudra past came out many asked how he can fall for Paaro and not for Laila when he has bedded Laila for so long...well along with the gazillions of reasons given then...this is another one, that Paaro harnesses all the praiseworthy qualities of Mala...she is the younger, and purer version of Mala in sorts therefore he falls for her and not for Laila, as Laila is nothing like his mother. Rudra always loved his mother and when he meets Paaro those same qualities start to move his heart and he falls for her...

When he realises that his mother raised her...he tries to push her away angry at her, hating her...as Maithali says when Paaro falls sick after standing in the rain...deep down you yourself know that Paaro is innocent but are using the fire and Sunehri's statement as reasons to keep her away from you...why does he want to keep her away because he hates the fact that Mala was a mother to her those 15 yrs when he needed a mother...but he realises the more he pushes Paaro away the more she pushes back, because she loves him...some where along this pushing and pulling he comes to realise that not only can he not stand hurting her but that she doesn't deserve to be hated for getting Mala's love...come to think of it the jaipur trip may have done this...for this is when due to geetanjli paaro brings up their first meeting...recalling that meeting I guess he realises that he cannot begrudge Paaro for his mother's actions...and like you say in your second post this will be Mala's saving grace the fact that she was a mother to an orphan Paaro even if she left her son orphaned without realising...

He adores his Paro, and his mother was there for his adored wife when her own parents were dead. He will hate Mala for what she did to him, personally. He will thank Mala for what she did for Paro.


And this is how he will forgive her. Through Paro, because of Paro.


The only thing he will be thankful to her for: being the mother to Paaro that she couldn't be to him. You see that with the way he tones down in today's episode and apologises the next morning for getting angry at her, telling her in not so many words that he is angry at his mother for abandoning him not at her for receiving a mother's love from her, which is what Paaro was afraid of and apologised for when she comes in to the room for not realising how her memories with Mala will upset him...


In her head, the Rudra she left that evening after putting him to bed and the Rudra of today--the gap of 15 years is just a time lapse--not a complete shift in who he has become. I am waiting to see how she deals with what Dilsher has done to their kid, and for her to realize that it was HER cruelty and her selfishness that resulted in this twisted, bitter and broken man standing where her adored little boy used to be.

I really like what you said here...yes she fails to realise and doesn't even take the hint when Danveer tries to tell her that Rudra is no longer the same boy she left him as...here a I see a similarity between Mala and Paaro...their naivety or ignorance, I don't know which one better explains...or may be their ability to live in a dreamworld, with Paaro we see this before she is rudely awakened by to Rudra's past with Laila...her dreamworld regarding who Rudra is...and with Mala it is this, her belief that when she meets her son he will come running into her arms...uh not going to happen sweet-heart...probably never, as I personally feel he should never go on to lovable terms with her...I will accept him accepting her and making peace with her eventually, but it would make my heart cry for Rudra I see today if he goes and rests his head lovingly in his mother's lap...I don't know but I just can't accept that, because in my opinion regardless of her reasons and her repentance she should not get all the happinness when she took it away from her son, her happiness should be in the fact that her husband and son forgive her and let her be a part of their lives, that is it...well that is what I feel anyway...lets see what will happen...

Anyway coming back to the point...yes Mala is in lala-land when it comes to Rudra not realising that Rudra hates her, because he loved her sooo much...n when the mother-son meeting finally does take place it will be interesting to see her shock and how she takes it...what I would like to see would be her at some point turning towards Dilsher and asking him how he could abandon their son and let him turn this sour...only to get a retort back from Dilsher/Rudra or Mohini...yes I would love for Mohini to say it her taunting way...not out of love for Rudra because of course she doesn't love him but out of hatred for her sister...just to make her feel even more little that you are more to blame for his jallad-state than Dilsher, who may not have been a parent but was always there for Rudra did provide for him and raise and made him the man he is today...while I agree with you on Mala having an important role making Major Rudra Pratap Ranawat, I also believe credit goes to Dilsher too for making him...as Mala's abandonment makes him the independent, ruthless, fearless warrior, it is Dilsher's bitter-but-always present status that makes him loyal, while his possessiveness over his son and protection of his son bring about those two qualities in him too...possessiveness shown by Dilsher taking Rudra with him and keeping him with him...and protectiveness in the story which Rudra relates before he receives his medal of how Dilsher told his teacher that Rudra would indeed acheive great heights one day, he may not have been the best father but he did take care of him and did instigate some very important values in him...

Also after Mala enters Parud's life I would like to to see a Paaro Mala scene too, where she sides with her husbaand and asks how she could abandon her own son...I mean I know and expect Paaro to help them come together...but I want to see a scene where Paaro should feel a little hurt and betrayed by this abandonment and should voice it in front of Mala...saying how she could do it to her own son and husband when she taught her the true sanctity of marriage and motherhood...

Mala created Parvati. Mala created Rudra.
Rudra is a protector of good and a destroyer of evil. The Thakur, the "Evil" should be a smarter man than this. Giving back to Rudra and to Parvati the person who is their creative-force, who is BOTH their sources of maternal love is a stupid, stupid idea. It will undo the one weakness, it will repair the one broken foundation Rudra has in him, and it will give back to Parvati a mother she longs for. A mother who will give her strength to protect and support Rudra just by existing in the same house as her children.

If I was the Thakur, I would recognize something about Mala that is really quite terrifying--when she loves you, you prosper. When she leaves you, you decay. And she does not do second chances --she loves passionately, to the extent of forgetting everyone else for that love. And when she leaves, she never turns back, never even thinks of the devastation she leaves behind. And that is what she does to those people she feels love for. The Thakur is someone Mala hates. If I was him, it is MALA who I'd fear, right now.

Very true and very aptly said. Thakur fails to realise this...being evil makes him smart but also makes him desperate and arrogant and therefore liable to stupidities like this. If he wasn't in a desperate situation or arrogant, he would realise that one Rudra will never make any sort of deal with, whether Mala is part of it or not. Two, he has met Rudra and seen just how protective he is of Paaro and that was before he fell in love with her, so there is no chance he would give up Paaro, even in return for his mother...he would give up anything for Paaro but would never give-up Paaro...and Laila to should realise this if she was thinking with a clear head as she has seen it in front of her eyes just how much he cares for Paaro...but both Laila and Thakur are blinded...Thakur by arrogance and desperation, Laila by jealousy/love/obsession which makes her miss the biggest point that one Rudra would never exchange Paaro for anyone and two especially not for his mother who she knows he hates, as she abandoned him. So they both fail to realise how the Mala card will backfire on these accounts and then of course because she is not just anyone but like you said the creator of these Parud and what do Paaro, Rudra have in common? Stubborness, strength, patriotism...and if these two have these qualites in them then you know Mala must too, as she is the one who has created their characters...thus they, especially Thakur underestimates his wife, like you say

when she loves you, you prosper. When she leaves you, you decay.

A quality that is seen in Paaro too, when she loves you you prosper, Tejawat was untouchable while Paaro believed his lies...when she hates you decay...the moment she learns the truth he loses everything...this is seen with Rudra too, she hates him nothing goes his way and he faces enquiry at BSD she loves him and his case is no longer a question and his job no longer on the line...both these women are wild-cards...game-changers and Thakur and Laila underestimate them both...now put theem both together and you can be sure to find Thakur and Laila both losing everything...

zeffy2k2 said this in her comment
Yes he needs to fear the wrath of ek Ma ki mamta being stolen, she is going to make him pay big time. She is after all a sherni who would develop "cheer ke rakh doongi" wale tactics to make Thakur sa go weak in his knees. She is now definitely on the look out to protect her cub and thus the hunt shall begin!!

which got me thinking, that while Paaro is no doubt Mala's protoge...but Mala being Rudra's mother means both must have some similar traits...other than the eyes...(which hats off to casting who cast two actors with similar eyes...ashish and sadiya's eyes aren't the same of course but their eyes colour's are very similar, anyway coming back to the point) another trait that binds them is their 'cheer ke rakh daina' if someone dares wrong them or their loved one they will not rest until that person perishes...now Thakur has not only wronged Mala he has made her wrong her son and is threatening to hurt her son...she will make him pay for it, she is after all Rudra's mother, no hippy who will let it go...she has fire in her just the way her son does...and so Thakur will soon learn that the fire that burns inside her can spread warmth in the form love and destruction in the form of hatred, he experienced the first for fifteen year now he will experience the latter and will burn in it...

oki wow...I think I have numbed your brain enough with my musings...so I shall rest my pen and give you some rest from my long-winded thoughts...


Equally brilliant as naps post...wonderful musings!
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Originally posted by: ACTywm

An incredible post and take on Mala...I totally agree with you, as much as we may dislike her for her actions of abandoning her child, we CANNOT deny the fact that she is an ESSENTIAL character in RR and pivotal to PaRud. HER ACTION INTENTIONALLY/UNINTENTIONALLY MAKE THEM!

Mala brought Parvati up in the very real sense of the word, teaching her exactly those elements of herself that Rudra is completely bestotted by today.

There is a saying that goes, men fall for women like their mother and women fall for men like their father...I personally feel this is very true and it is evident here with Rudra...and Paaro (for Paaro see's shiv as her father and Mala/Mami sa as her mother) anyway talking about Rudra...when the Laila-Rudra past came out many asked how he can fall for Paaro and not for Laila when he has bedded Laila for so long...well along with the gazillions of reasons given then...this is another one, that Paaro harnesses all the praiseworthy qualities of Mala...she is the younger, and purer version of Mala in sorts therefore he falls for her and not for Laila, as Laila is nothing like his mother. Rudra always loved his mother and when he meets Paaro those same qualities start to move his heart and he falls for her...

When he realises that his mother raised her...he tries to push her away angry at her, hating her...as Maithali says when Paaro falls sick after standing in the rain...deep down you yourself know that Paaro is innocent but are using the fire and Sunehri's statement as reasons to keep her away from you...why does he want to keep her away because he hates the fact that Mala was a mother to her those 15 yrs when he needed a mother...but he realises the more he pushes Paaro away the more she pushes back, because she loves him...some where along this pushing and pulling he comes to realise that not only can he not stand hurting her but that she doesn't deserve to be hated for getting Mala's love...come to think of it the jaipur trip may have done this...for this is when due to geetanjli paaro brings up their first meeting...recalling that meeting I guess he realises that he cannot begrudge Paaro for his mother's actions...and like you say in your second post this will be Mala's saving grace the fact that she was a mother to an orphan Paaro even if she left her son orphaned without realising...

He adores his Paro, and his mother was there for his adored wife when her own parents were dead. He will hate Mala for what she did to him, personally. He will thank Mala for what she did for Paro.


And this is how he will forgive her. Through Paro, because of Paro.


The only thing he will be thankful to her for: being the mother to Paaro that she couldn't be to him. You see that with the way he tones down in today's episode and apologises the next morning for getting angry at her, telling her in not so many words that he is angry at his mother for abandoning him not at her for receiving a mother's love from her, which is what Paaro was afraid of and apologised for when she comes in to the room for not realising how her memories with Mala will upset him...


In her head, the Rudra she left that evening after putting him to bed and the Rudra of today--the gap of 15 years is just a time lapse--not a complete shift in who he has become. I am waiting to see how she deals with what Dilsher has done to their kid, and for her to realize that it was HER cruelty and her selfishness that resulted in this twisted, bitter and broken man standing where her adored little boy used to be.

I really like what you said here...yes she fails to realise and doesn't even take the hint when Danveer tries to tell her that Rudra is no longer the same boy she left him as...here a I see a similarity between Mala and Paaro...their naivety or ignorance, I don't know which one better explains...or may be their ability to live in a dreamworld, with Paaro we see this before she is rudely awakened by to Rudra's past with Laila...her dreamworld regarding who Rudra is...and with Mala it is this, her belief that when she meets her son he will come running into her arms...uh not going to happen sweet-heart...probably never, as I personally feel he should never go on to lovable terms with her...I will accept him accepting her and making peace with her eventually, but it would make my heart cry for Rudra I see today if he goes and rests his head lovingly in his mother's lap...I don't know but I just can't accept that, because in my opinion regardless of her reasons and her repentance she should not get all the happinness when she took it away from her son, her happiness should be in the fact that her husband and son forgive her and let her be a part of their lives, that is it...well that is what I feel anyway...lets see what will happen...

Anyway coming back to the point...yes Mala is in lala-land when it comes to Rudra not realising that Rudra hates her, because he loved her sooo much...n when the mother-son meeting finally does take place it will be interesting to see her shock and how she takes it...what I would like to see would be her at some point turning towards Dilsher and asking him how he could abandon their son and let him turn this sour...only to get a retort back from Dilsher/Rudra or Mohini...yes I would love for Mohini to say it her taunting way...not out of love for Rudra because of course she doesn't love him but out of hatred for her sister...just to make her feel even more little that you are more to blame for his jallad-state than Dilsher, who may not have been a parent but was always there for Rudra did provide for him and raise and made him the man he is today...while I agree with you on Mala having an important role making Major Rudra Pratap Ranawat, I also believe credit goes to Dilsher too for making him...as Mala's abandonment makes him the independent, ruthless, fearless warrior, it is Dilsher's bitter-but-always present status that makes him loyal, while his possessiveness over his son and protection of his son bring about those two qualities in him too...possessiveness shown by Dilsher taking Rudra with him and keeping him with him...and protectiveness in the story which Rudra relates before he receives his medal of how Dilsher told his teacher that Rudra would indeed acheive great heights one day, he may not have been the best father but he did take care of him and did instigate some very important values in him...

Also after Mala enters Parud's life I would like to to see a Paaro Mala scene too, where she sides with her husbaand and asks how she could abandon her own son...I mean I know and expect Paaro to help them come together...but I want to see a scene where Paaro should feel a little hurt and betrayed by this abandonment and should voice it in front of Mala...saying how she could do it to her own son and husband when she taught her the true sanctity of marriage and motherhood...

Mala created Parvati. Mala created Rudra.
Rudra is a protector of good and a destroyer of evil. The Thakur, the "Evil" should be a smarter man than this. Giving back to Rudra and to Parvati the person who is their creative-force, who is BOTH their sources of maternal love is a stupid, stupid idea. It will undo the one weakness, it will repair the one broken foundation Rudra has in him, and it will give back to Parvati a mother she longs for. A mother who will give her strength to protect and support Rudra just by existing in the same house as her children.

If I was the Thakur, I would recognize something about Mala that is really quite terrifying--when she loves you, you prosper. When she leaves you, you decay. And she does not do second chances --she loves passionately, to the extent of forgetting everyone else for that love. And when she leaves, she never turns back, never even thinks of the devastation she leaves behind. And that is what she does to those people she feels love for. The Thakur is someone Mala hates. If I was him, it is MALA who I'd fear, right now.

Very true and very aptly said. Thakur fails to realise this...being evil makes him smart but also makes him desperate and arrogant and therefore liable to stupidities like this. If he wasn't in a desperate situation or arrogant, he would realise that one Rudra will never make any sort of deal with, whether Mala is part of it or not. Two, he has met Rudra and seen just how protective he is of Paaro and that was before he fell in love with her, so there is no chance he would give up Paaro, even in return for his mother...he would give up anything for Paaro but would never give-up Paaro...and Laila to should realise this if she was thinking with a clear head as she has seen it in front of her eyes just how much he cares for Paaro...but both Laila and Thakur are blinded...Thakur by arrogance and desperation, Laila by jealousy/love/obsession which makes her miss the biggest point that one Rudra would never exchange Paaro for anyone and two especially not for his mother who she knows he hates, as she abandoned him. So they both fail to realise how the Mala card will backfire on these accounts and then of course because she is not just anyone but like you said the creator of these Parud and what do Paaro, Rudra have in common? Stubborness, strength, patriotism...and if these two have these qualites in them then you know Mala must too, as she is the one who has created their characters...thus they, especially Thakur underestimates his wife, like you say

when she loves you, you prosper. When she leaves you, you decay.

A quality that is seen in Paaro too, when she loves you you prosper, Tejawat was untouchable while Paaro believed his lies...when she hates you decay...the moment she learns the truth he loses everything...this is seen with Rudra too, she hates him nothing goes his way and he faces enquiry at BSD she loves him and his case is no longer a question and his job no longer on the line...both these women are wild-cards...game-changers and Thakur and Laila underestimate them both...now put theem both together and you can be sure to find Thakur and Laila both losing everything...

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Yes he needs to fear the wrath of ek Ma ki mamta being stolen, she is going to make him pay big time. She is after all a sherni who would develop "cheer ke rakh doongi" wale tactics to make Thakur sa go weak in his knees. She is now definitely on the look out to protect her cub and thus the hunt shall begin!!

which got me thinking, that while Paaro is no doubt Mala's protoge...but Mala being Rudra's mother means both must have some similar traits...other than the eyes...(which hats off to casting who cast two actors with similar eyes...ashish and sadiya's eyes aren't the same of course but their eyes colour's are very similar, anyway coming back to the point) another trait that binds them is their 'cheer ke rakh daina' if someone dares wrong them or their loved one they will not rest until that person perishes...now Thakur has not only wronged Mala he has made her wrong her son and is threatening to hurt her son...she will make him pay for it, she is after all Rudra's mother, no hippy who will let it go...she has fire in her just the way her son does...and so Thakur will soon learn that the fire that burns inside her can spread warmth in the form love and destruction in the form of hatred, he experienced the first for fifteen year now he will experience the latter and will burn in it...

oki wow...I think I have numbed your brain enough with my musings...so I shall rest my pen and give you some rest from my long-winded thoughts...



Very well written. . Awesome post
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<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#993366">An incredible post and take on Mala...I totally agree with you, as much as we may dislike her for her actions of abandoning her child, we CANNOT deny the fact that she is an ESSENTIAL character in RR and pivotal to PaRud. HER ACTION INTENTIONALLY/UNINTENTIONALLY MAKE THEM!</font>

Mala brought Parvati up in the very real sense of the word, teaching her exactly those elements of herself that Rudra is completely bestotted by today.

<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#993366">There is a saying that goes, men fall for women like their mother and women fall for men like their father...I personally feel this is very true and it is evident here with Rudra...and Paaro (for Paaro see's shiv as her father and Mala/Mami sa as her mother) anyway talking about Rudra...when the Laila-Rudra past came out many asked how he can fall for Paaro and not for Laila when he has bedded Laila for so long...well along with the gazillions of reasons given then...this is another one, that Paaro harnesses all the praiseworthy qualities of Mala...she is the younger, and purer version of Mala in sorts therefore he falls for her and not for Laila, as Laila is nothing like his mother. Rudra always loved his mother and when he meets Paaro those same qualities start to move his heart and he falls for her...</font>

<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#993366">When he realises that his mother raised her...he tries to push her away angry at her, hating her...as Maithali says when Paaro falls sick after standing in the rain...deep down you yourself know that Paaro is innocent but are using the fire and Sunehri's statement as reasons to keep her away from you...why does he want to keep her away because he hates the fact that Mala was a mother to her those 15 yrs when he needed a mother...but he realises the more he pushes Paaro away the more she pushes back, because she loves him...some where along this pushing and pulling he comes to realise that not only can he not stand hurting her but that she doesn't deserve to be hated for getting Mala's love...come to think of it the jaipur trip may have done this...for this is when due to geetanjli paaro brings up their first meeting...recalling that meeting I guess he realises that he cannot begrudge Paaro for his mother's actions...and like you say in your second post this will be Mala's saving grace the fact that she was a mother to an orphan Paaro even if she left her son orphaned without realising...</font>

He adores his Paro, and his mother was there for his adored wife when her own parents were dead. He will hate Mala for what she did to him, personally. He will thank Mala for what she did for Paro.


And this is how he will forgive her. Through Paro, because of Paro.


<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#993366">The only thing he will be thankful to her for: being the mother to Paaro that she couldn't be to him. You see that with the way he tones down in today's episode and apologises the next morning for getting angry at her, telling her in not so many words that he is angry at his mother for abandoning him not at her for receiving a mother's love from her, which is what Paaro was afraid of and apologised for when she comes in to the room for not realising how her memories with Mala will upset him...</font>


In her head, the Rudra she left that evening after putting him to bed and the Rudra of today--the gap of 15 years is just a time lapse--not a complete shift in who he has become. I am waiting to see how she deals with what Dilsher has done to their kid, and for her to realize that it was HER cruelty and her selfishness that resulted in this twisted, bitter and broken man standing where her adored little boy used to be.

<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#993366">I really like what you said here...yes she fails to realise and doesn't even take the hint when Danveer tries to tell her that Rudra is no longer the same boy she left him as...here a I see a similarity between Mala and Paaro...their naivety or ignorance, I don't know which one better explains...or may be their ability to live in a dreamworld, with Paaro we see this before she is rudely awakened by to Rudra's past with Laila...her dreamworld regarding who Rudra is...and with Mala it is this, her belief that when she meets her son he will come running into her arms...uh not going to happen sweet-heart...probably never, as I personally feel he should never go on to lovable terms with her...I will accept him accepting her and making peace with her eventually, but it would make my heart cry for Rudra I see today if he goes and rests his head lovingly in his mother's lap...I don't know but I just can't accept that, because in my opinion regardless of her reasons and her repentance she should not get all the happinness when she took it away from her son, her happiness should be in the fact that her husband and son forgive her and let her be a part of their lives, that is it...well that is what I feel anyway...lets see what will happen...</font>
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<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#993366">Anyway coming back to the point...yes Mala is in lala-land when it comes to Rudra not realising that Rudra hates her, because he loved her sooo much...n when the mother-son meeting finally does take place it will be interesting to see her shock and how she takes it...what I would like to see would be her at some point turning towards Dilsher and asking him how he could abandon their son and let him turn this sour...only to get a retort back from Dilsher/Rudra or Mohini...yes I would love for Mohini to say it her taunting way...not out of love for Rudra because of course she doesn't love him but out of hatred for her sister...just to make her feel even more little that you are more to blame for his jallad-state than Dilsher, who may not have been a parent but was always there for Rudra did provide for him and raise and made him the man he is today...while I agree with you on Mala having an important role making Major Rudra Pratap Ranawat, I also believe credit goes to Dilsher too for making him...as Mala's abandonment makes him the independent, ruthless, fearless warrior, it is Dilsher's bitter-but-always present status that makes him loyal, while his possessiveness over his son and protection of his son bring about those two qualities in him too...possessiveness shown by Dilsher taking Rudra with him and keeping him with him...and protectiveness in the story which Rudra relates before he receives his medal of how Dilsher told his teacher that Rudra would indeed acheive great heights one day, he may not have been the best father but he did take care of him and did instigate some very important values in him...</font>
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<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#993366">Also after Mala enters Parud's life I would like to to see a Paaro Mala scene too, where she sides with her husbaand and asks how she could abandon her own son...I mean I know and expect Paaro to help them come together...but I want to see a scene where Paaro should feel a little hurt and betrayed by this abandonment and should voice it in front of Mala...saying how she could do it to her own son and husband when she taught her the true sanctity of marriage and motherhood...</font>

Mala created Parvati. Mala created Rudra.
Rudra is a protector of good and a destroyer of evil. The Thakur, the "Evil" should be a smarter man than this. Giving back to Rudra and to Parvati the person who is their creative-force, who is BOTH their sources of maternal love is a stupid, stupid idea. It will undo the one weakness, it will repair the one broken foundation Rudra has in him, and it will give back to Parvati a mother she longs for. A mother who will give her strength to protect and support Rudra just by existing in the same house as her children.

If I was the Thakur, I would recognize something about Mala that is really quite terrifying--when she loves you, you prosper. When she leaves you, you decay. And she does not do second chances --she loves passionately, to the extent of forgetting everyone else for that love. And when she leaves, she never turns back, never even thinks of the devastation she leaves behind. And that is what she does to those people she feels love for. The Thakur is someone Mala hates. If I was him, it is MALA who I'd fear, right now.

<font face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="3" color="#993366">Very true and very aptly said. Thakur fails to realise this...being evil makes him smart but also makes him desperate and arrogant and therefore liable to stupidities like this. If he wasn't in a desperate situation or arrogant, he would realise that one Rudra will never make any sort of deal with, whether Mala is part of it or not. Two, he has met Rudra and seen just how protective he is of Paaro and that was before he fell in love with her, so there is no chance he would give up Paaro, even in return for his mother...he would give up anything for Paaro but would never give-up Paaro...and Laila to should realise this if she was thinking with a clear head as she has seen it in front of her eyes just how much he cares for Paaro...but both Laila and Thakur are blinded...Thakur by arrogance and desperation, Laila by jealousy/love/obsession which makes her miss the biggest point that one Rudra would never exchange Paaro for anyone and two especially not for his mother who she knows he hates, as she abandoned him. So they both fail to realise how the Mala card will backfire on these accounts and then of course because she is not just anyone but like you said the creator of these Parud and what do Paaro, Rudra have in common? Stubborness, strength, patriotism...and if these two have these qualites in them then you know Mala must too, as she is the one who has created their characters...thus they, especially Thakur underestimates his wife, like you say </font>

when she loves you, you prosper. When she leaves you, you decay.

<font size="3" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" color="#993366">A quality that is seen in Paaro too, when she loves you you prosper, Tejawat was untouchable while Paaro believed his lies...when she hates you decay...the moment she learns the truth he loses everything...this is seen with Rudra too, she hates him nothing goes his way and he faces enquiry at BSD she loves him and his case is no longer a question and his job no longer on the line...both these women are wild-cards...game-changers and Thakur and Laila underestimate them both...now put theem both together and you can be sure to find Thakur and Laila both losing everything...</font>

<font size="4">zeffy2k2 said this in her comment</font>
<font size="4">Yes he needs to fear the wrath of ek Ma ki mamta being stolen, she is going to make him pay big time. She is after all a sherni who would develop "cheer ke rakh doongi" wale tactics to make Thakur sa go weak in his knees. She is now definitely on the look out to protect her cub and thus the hunt shall begin!!</font>

<font size="3" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" color="#993366">which got me thinking, that while Paaro is no doubt Mala's protoge...but Mala being Rudra's mother means both must have some similar traits...other than the eyes...(which hats off to casting who cast two actors with similar eyes...ashish and sadiya's eyes aren't the same of course but their eyes colour's are very similar, anyway coming back to the point) another trait that binds them is their 'cheer ke rakh daina' if someone dares wrong them or their loved one they will not rest until that person perishes...now Thakur has not only wronged Mala he has made her wrong her son and is threatening to hurt her son...she will make him pay for it, she is after all Rudra's mother, no hippy who will let it go...she has fire in her just the way her son does...and so Thakur will soon learn that the fire that burns inside her can spread warmth in the form love and destruction in the form of hatred, he experienced the first for fifteen year now he will experience the latter and will burn in it...</font>
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<font size="3" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" color="#993366">oki wow...I think I have numbed your brain enough with my musings...so I shall rest my pen and give you some rest from my long-winded thoughts...</font>






"Mala brought Parvati up in the very real sense of the word, teaching her exactly those elements of herself that Rudra is completely bestotted by today."
But don't you find discrepancies in what Mala actually did & what she preached ? Isn't it the height of hypocracy?
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Originally posted by: Harshuu

@zeffy2k2. Thank you . You really are a very sweet person. Just got back home in time to catch the repeat telecast of RR , it just got over , leaving me depressed. There was a lot I wanted to write when I told you earlier that I will come back & write more but that was before the telecast of tonight's epi. We watch shows or whatever to feel good/ for entertainment but if it does the opposite then it's better to stop ASAP which I have decided to do . Being a mother myself, I can not swallow the abandonment of mamta over love & to make matters worse, the way Paro reacted was OMG OMG for me. So since I am giving up on the show , there won't be any point in me being on this forum. I wouldn't have had any problem with Mala had she been shown as ' not such a noble, nice person ' but since thats how she was depicted,hence it's hard for me to come to terms with it. I know three such women personally who left their husbands & children for greener pastures in the name of love & they are my good friends too but the reason I don't have problem with them is because they don't preach morality, devotion, tyag, shiv Bhakti etc like Mala did. Bye now. It was great interacting with you, however short.


Dear Harshu ji,

Wow, just realised I should have addressed you in more respectful manner in the previous post. The pleasure was all mine, I did get to meet a wonderful person like you in timespan of 2 posts.

Aapka decision is what many ppl/fans/members might agree with. With the last 2 episodes things have changed drastically. Yes,entertainment should be there to entertain, not make ppl lose interest, espicially when they take out precious time from their busy schedules and expect to watch some quality drama but in the end tend to use the mute button more often.

Ha ha, her reaction definitely triggered negativity towards her character development, she could have been a bit more sensitive and acted sensibly, rather than having her do a "jalle par namak chidkna" wala reaction, guess she needs to get her emotions in control.

Yes Mala, is depicted as runaway mom, so she needs to do wonders to redeem herself, because with the flow of emotions being projected, she does not stand a chance to even beg for forgiveness, and to have Thakur sa even assume that Rudra would give up Paro for Mala is plain over-confidence.

Wow, reality stings more bitterly. To be honest, I have never been in touch with any modern day mom's, so it heart-breaking to know the situations, issues they deal with. Experincing and being part of such situations is what makes us realise that 30 mins ka show is truly meant for entertainment and nothing else, and we have bigger issues to handle and take care of.

With those few words, I would just like to add, hope the show changes it's pace, BG music and get it's story straight and we all get to appreciate it the manner that we all once did, during the initial episodes. After all sab kuch ek Ma ke haath mein hi toh ab, Mala ji needs to buckle up, mesmerrize us , get all the wonderful young Maa sa's to once again get glued to their TV screens!!

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