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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MoronsKiMallika


Cheating!😡

Develop your own brand of sarcasm otherwise i will slap you with a chair. 😈


Chair Kyon ? Aur Itni Naarazgi Kyon ? 😆😆

Waise this thread was not that intense.. You should have seen some of the other threads. Literally got scared looking at how people were arguing, debating, throwing rotten tomatoes and eggs at each other and CVs, actors, writers ...anybody and everybody they can get their hands on

And here I write one sentence and you are ready to slap me. That too with chair. Bahut Na Insaafi Hai.


Rudra has broken down multiple times but this was different. As far as I remember
  • First one was against the mirror
  • Second was with doll in his room when Paro saw him from outside the window
  • Third was with Paro but he was drunk
  • Fourth was with his Dad. But Dilsher was in coma
  • Now Rudra has broken down when he is conscious. In the presence of a human being who is also conscious. That is a first.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: JJKKL


Chair Kyon ? Aur Itni Naarazgi Kyon ? 😆😆

Waise this thread was not that intense.. You should have seen some of the other threads. Literally got scared looking at how people were arguing, debating, throwing rotten tomatoes and eggs at each other and CVs, actors, writers ...anybody and everybody they can get their hands on

And here I write one sentence and you are ready to slap me. That too with chair. Bahut Na Insaafi Hai.


Rudra has broken down multiple times but this was different. As far as I remember

  • First one was against the mirror
  • Second was with doll in his room when Paro saw him from outside the window
  • Third was with Paro but he was drunk
  • Fourth was with his Dad. But Dilsher was in coma
  • Now Rudra has broken down when he is conscious. In the presence of a human being who is also conscious. That is a first.


Thanks JJKL. Lol. When i say that i will slap you with a chair , it means i like you. I am polite and sugary sweet when i DISLIKE someone. 😆

You have enlisted and read the breakdowns of Rudra to perfection. Correct.

As for what was happening on other threads, i don't visit many because i cannot take any stack of passionate and opinionated vocabulary as a 'VIEW'. I prefer people like Pri, Babykins, you, Diyaa and a few others who may think opposite but at least know how to put their thoughts together without offending anyone.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: chhanchhan88

beautifully written vicky


Thanks Sweetie. 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MoronsKiMallika


Babykins, this whole definition of MASCULINITY that our society has taught us is what has made men believe that they cannot and should not cry. Men may have bigger biceps and broader chests , but the size of heart is the same for a man and a woman. Bullet wound was physical and he could deal with it. But the wounds of the soul and spirit are beyond the capacity of human tolerance unless you have attained inner peace.

Secondly, what is the dictionary meaning of a BREAKDOWN? A complete collapse and standstill of a machinery in the language of mechanics. Does a machine break down wire by wire? No. Its the most superlative form of giving up. People reach a breakdown when their controls snap.

Now, imagine a 'subtle' BREAKDOWN.

Point being that 'subtle' and 'breakdown' are oxymorons. Breakdowns are MEANT to be OTT because last i checked, both in reel and real life, people do not cry and sob in installments and at regular intervals of time.


So well explained MKM!! 👏


It is true that a crying man is looked upon as a weak person in our society. But men also do have feelings you know and they too need an outlet for their supressed emotions. There is absolutely nothing wrong in a man crying. Doesn't make him any less of a man, me thinks. Rudra's outburst of feelings was natural and Ashish excelled in portraying it so beautifully!!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MoronsKiMallika



"Mere sang toh chal zaraa, kyun dikhe daraa-daraa?"

- Hold my hand and walk with me. Don't be scared because i am with you. Nothing will happen to you.


It takes a lot of strength, risk and blind faith , vulnerability to take off your veils and let someone see how ugly , scarred and helpless you are. You place hope and faith in someone that they will heal you , they will not judge you, they will embrace you so hard that they will explode into your soul, cause a supernova and fill you with a glow to an extent that you will no longer be afraid of caves and gorges.

THIS. This was Rudra's situation today. He is at an extremely vulnerable stage and he can swing either way - for the best or for the worst. He is buckling under Paro's powerful and peculiar love, he is feeling suffocated with the onslaught of emotions that he is feeling for her. And this buckling, cornering and suffocation causes cracks even in mountains. What Rudra confessed to Paro in his vulnerability is what he is feeling and what is killing him. He may feel a lot of things for Paro, he even loves her with whatever heartbeats he is capable of - but...he does not see himself as a 'man who could love a woman as a woman'.He feels petty, inferior , small and ugly when he sees the purity of Paro's love and its greatness. He feels the damage that his mother and his upbringing have done to him have made him so ugly that someone as beautiful and pious as Paro cannot be the haute couture of his love life. The more Paro loves him, the more he crumbles into the reality of his Antarctic heart. He wants to leap out and hug Paro, take that LEAP OF FAITH and love Paro but his Philophobia doesn't let him move an inch. He knows that if he doesn't embrace Paro, he will invert all those emotions of love and turn them into whiplash that will be love concave-d into its ugly black swan version - frustration of pent up emotions rather than peace of love.

He was apologetic , actually apologetic that he was destroying Paro's life by not loving her back - but at the same time, he held on to her hand and showed her his septic in his COMPLETE SENSES. Its like - Look at me. I want to be in love, experience every shade of it , but am ugly and love is too beautiful. You cannot weave jute into silk without making silk look ugly.

Paro understood where he was coming from and like always, she embraced him, shushing him, telling him that he is not ugly. Love is a genesis in its own and its mystery is the same as the mystery of the universe. How the Milky Way came into existence is none of our business, Similarly, why someone loves someone without measuring their worth in teaspoons is an equally stupid question. Rudra is desperate to make her understand that his mother pulled the plug on all his chances of leading a normal life. But Rudra doesn't understand that Paro is not even ASKING him to love her back. I love you and I love you so much that its enough for both of us to last a lifetime. And since when love became a barter item? Its OK not to be loved back. Yet, Rudra doesn't get it at all - he is too engrossed in the misery of not being able to love Paro . One may feel that the boy was wallowing in self-pity.Yes, he was. Why? Because life gave him no chances to pity himself and heal himself when the wounds were fresh. Today, they are septic and septic works the way Rudra's misery does.

That said, Rudra may feel he is too ugly for Paro and too small an entity to deserve her love... but his need for Paro only escalates with each passing day. Typical human nature - you always find refuge and comfort in someone stronger. Paro is the emotional Goliath here and she is Rudra's tunnel to emotions - this is why he complains about his mother to her like a baby. That is why he seeks her physical support to support himself. That is why he holds Paro's hand when he thinks he is about to face his mother... In a way, Rudra has surrendered to Paro's warmth, if not her womanly love. He CANNOT function without her at an emotional level at all...and that is a matter of grave worry.

Paro is Rudra's fort that stands between him and emotional scavenging. But... Rudra is Paro's fort that stands between her and death. Minutes ago, Rudra sought solace in Paro. Minutes later, Laila appears on the door and Paro seeks refuge in Rudra by hiding behind him. Rudra further cements this by standing between Paro and Laila. Point being, that anyone who is a threat to Paro and has been Bon Voyage-d from his life is not welcome back ashore. Rudra's humanity is in sync with his brains and is not emotional like Paro's. He listens to Laila patiently, even tries to buy her story , thanks to Paro's Florence Nightingale shades... but he knows what he wants - Laila must go. Rudra is practical in the sense of the world and not viscous emotional like Paro and i guess that is the right balance. Rudra cares about Laila as a human-being but his gut instinct and his intelligence has to be convinced that the human-being is asking for that care for the right reasons, unlike our Paro.

Anyway, am not in favour of Paro, emotionally arm-twisting Rudra into allowing Laila to stay at the Haweli. Its not right to use someone's soft spot for you to an advantage.Its disrespecting the innocence of the emotions that one feels for you. I prefer Paro telling Rudra categorically that Laila is gonna stay here until she is safe, instead of using the " If you don't listen to me..." card on him. This reminds me of a scene in the film Kabhi-Kabhi. Neetu Singh's character had made some demand from in a sway of emotions and he had smiled at her helplessly and told her - I love you and you know it. Don't use it to an advantage.

Rudra is sticking to his use of brains and letting Paro do all the TLC of Laila. That's a better situation than both Rudra and Paro being nurses and nannies.



I came to the forum yesterday after having enjoyed the episode, ready to share my feelings and was put off by the hulla gulla going on here! But the positivity that u gave me this morning after reading ur post is urging to say a few words...!

It was time that Rudra opened up...whenever there is too much bottling up under pressure, it is bound to burst, whether it is water in a dam, air in a balloon or emotions in the heart...that is called a breakdown. And it doesnt look beautiful from any angle, whether it is vented out as anger, panic or frustration or misery. Crying by men is taboo in our society...that has been nailed into our brains! Even a little boy who falls down and cries...is told: You are a brave boy, arent you? Dont cry like a girl! So it is hard to accept when the stereotype is reversed!! Rudra's outburst was the right culmination of a series of events that happened for sometime now.

Then, people do switch from emotions from time to time...and Ashish was the king of expressions yesterday. What striked me as odd, was the stance Paro took when he was crying his heart out holding her hand, kneeling in front of her! Ofcourse, she sat down...came to his level, but a little more display of emotions from her side would have balanced the scene. A little touch on the cheek, a hold on the shoulder, or tear flowing down her cheeks...some sign of showing her eagerness to help him with the misery along with her display of strength. Then again, i kept analysing and came to the conclusion that maybe, she was scared that any display of sympathy from her side might interrupt his opening up this way, she wanted his dard to flow out and go away forever. But for that phone call, he would have revealed where he met his Mom. And my heart kept saying, had they not revealed Laila in the precap, we could have gone thru the same angst and fear Rudra went thru thinking the woman who came to him from Tejawat was his mom.

Ofcouse, anyone can see thru Laila's nautanki, i am happy Rudra did. Paro being Paro, has her own ways to arrive at the same results!! I am actually liking this track...i have a feeling that we are going to see a lot more closeness develop between them by the time this ends. They both know each other well enough now to anticipate each other's moves and the united front they are going to put before her tactics is exciting me! This time Rudra will be the one going with Paro's stubbornness, even when he fully knows that Laila is faking the whole thing!

P.S. If I didnt like anybody crying yesterday, it was Ankita's... didnt strike a chord with me!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Oldestfan

Vicky sa, I am reposting what I posted on Nach Basantis thread.

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Technically, he has only broken down in front of paro, or alone, I think. Unless I missed an episode.
I did not think he was OTT at all. He is physically weak, emotionally drained and in such a situation, very vulnerable. He wanted to hold her hand, but he could not. His hand slipped, and he was terror stricken that she would slip away too. So he told her that he could not love her, because if he did say it, he would die if she went away. But he continues to stand before her, emotionally stripped bare and defenceless. What clearer way to show that he loves her, he needs her?

If we were to go by word of mouth alone on what people said, we would be bulldozed in real life. Children communicate in contradictions, for gods sake! RR is all about that... Paruds contradictions in words and actions. Its the crux of their drama!

Imagine for a moment, that your own mother left you without any warning, any notice. It will rip your soul out, not getting closure. Is she alive? Suffering? Happy? Sad? Does she miss me? And missing your mother is a killing thing. If he cried, if he bawled like a baby, so what? He is defenceless against that blow. He is all cut to shreds inside. And when he is ready to put his mother behind and move on, he finds that she is alive and kicking! And married happily to a terrorist! I am amazed he did not turn alcoholic at that!

We are not allowed to compare shows and actor performances, but I have seen a scene where the hero finds out his brother married his bride. The crying there was 10 times more. And men do not look that good while crying! Ok that was shallow, but its true. The eyes spoke genuinely in both cases ... That show and todays epi in this show. In my opinion.

The turn of his emotions was scary... laila coming back, he has a counter move for that, he can think, and he starts to think on his feet. All his distrust, his pricking of his thumbs working overtime.
Lets see how it goes.

Just my opinion

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I think we have addressed the issue of whether a breakdown is subtle or not. In fact, Ashish approached that very gradually in the scene. And as I always suspected, the knowledge that his mother married the Thakur was the most cruel cut. The final damning proof that he was not even worthy of a mothers love. The final closing of the door on a faint possibility of a "majboori" situation ( in his POV).

Secondly, there was also some debate about whether an army major with cry baby issues could be emotionally stable enough to lead a team. In fact, it is emotion that is channeled into action on the front. There are so many war movies, war stories that show emotions in all their rawness and layers. Rudra's breakdown was in front of Paro and Paro alone. He was very much in control when he saw Lailas face. It was a lightning fast return to reality. That in itself should show that he is not acting himself/being directed out of character.

Lets not fool ourselves, people. The issue of a father walking out of the family has been dealt with very often. The issue of a mother leaving with her children, running from a dangerous domestic situation is also well known. But I as a mother, find it very hard to believe that a mother would run away without her child. Many mothers may abandon their infants outside orphanages etc. That has also been done to death. But a mother, wanting a child, having one, raising one and walking out in the middle? Kaisi majboori hain? And I can imagine the betrayal the child would go through. In fact, the only positive thing I see here is that Rudra actually made it past the psych profiling of army recruitment and became an officer!

How would she even live with herself? How would she never even mention anything to the Thakur for so many years? How would she not make an effort to find out other than calling her brother in law at intervals? The CVs have a big story to tell yet!

Paro is taken in by emotions, yes. But precaps are often taken out of context. Lets wait and watch! 😆 There is something more to that bit of emotional blackmail that she kinda indulged in...



Lovely post...👍🏼

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