Understanding Rudra's mellowing behaviour

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Posted: 11 years ago
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The big question raised after this weeks epis is "why is Rudra mellowing down so much so quickly?" Especially since not much has changed to make him go from his devil like self to a hubby restless for his wifey's apology...but I think it's not very abnormal or questionable, I really don't think he will go the way RK did in Madhubala or Shlok did in IPK-EBP, Rudra is not pretending to be a good hubby only for revenge, even the marriage wasn't really revenge, it was his only option to keep his job.

What has changed is Rudra's understanding of the depth of Paro's feelings. When Paro confessed her love to him and proposed him he was not only shell shocked and wondered how can she go from seeing him as Jallad to a lover overnight. Only when he sees the extent she is willing to go save his job, respect and image does he really see how much she loves him, the social-worker track bought this understanding about. Also how she cried and apology to Geetanjali after his prank, her worry and concern was only for him. He can no longer question how genuine and deep her feelings for him...the flower and thorn symbolism and their bedroom talk wasn't there for the sake of it, it meant something.

Rudra seems to have engraved in his very being that beautiful women shouldn't be trusted and he hates him. On multiple times he has said he hates Paro's beauty/face. Paro hasn't turned ugly over the Jaipur trip neither has Rudra's opinion on beautiful women changed, in fact he was left speechless by this Beauty. BUT it's not just Paro's beauty that has made him fall for her, he values her other traits like her unwavering faith, trust, loyalty far more than her beauty...they are the characters that really define her character...the traits that make sure she will never leave his side. He more than anyone know Paro is not one to turn her back and run away the way his mother did.

Then there is the whole question of "how can Rudra love a woman who is his mother's protege?" with him being the only one who knows of their connection. This is really interesting, I expected Rudra to be mad about it and blurt out something about this to Paro but no, he's buried that secret inside him, he's tried putting as much hatred and distance between him and Paro after learning this, He knew she didn't try burning Dilsheer yet blamed her, hated her for it, expected her to leave him but she didn't, she STAYED with him when he needed her, something his mother never did. Paro stayed with him the night he got drunk in BSD office, she stayed to win his forgiveness and trust over, she stayed after the marriage and helped him get his job back, when both were drunk she insisted on staying with him in the wrong room rather than go find their room alone. He smiled at that, she always (apart from Shivratri mela when she chose Tejawat but then more than made up for it) chooses to stay with Rudra something his mother didn't do and what in his mind, sets Paro aside from Mala.

Then there is the fact Rudra knows that Paro doesn't know her Thakurian Maasa is his mother.

Rudra also can't keep fighting his feelings. No matter how hard he tries to believe "koi farq nahi padhta" he can't help slip up in front of her blind trust, faith, belief and love towards him, she accepts him the way he is and over the weeks we've seen how hard it is for him to fight his inner feelings. He wants to hate her, hurt her, make sure she hates him, only she doesn't because after hurting her he feels regret, remorse, guilt and concern (feelings and instincts he cant control) and she sees that. It's reaching to the point that he probably feels he can't hurt her anymore, she is too precious, innocent and he needs to protect her.

Why is he trying so hard to get her apology that he's even buying bangles for her?

Well apart from Dilsheer, Paro is the only person he cares about, he himself said that he doesn't like seeing her hurt and she was hurt by HIS prank so naturally he wants to make her happy. He has bought her bangles before but that was more to hurt her and make her sign the papers so it's not like he's doing it for the first time.

Ok this post is long enough and I should really shut up now!😆

Basic point of this essay is his behaviour is not too abnormal or out of character to me...then there is also the point that CVs are trying to boost ratings with PaRud love track therefore a mellowing hero is needed

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Rudra believing and trusting the sincerity of Paros love for him should come with at least as much difficulty as IF juntas trust for believing that a character like him just forgets everything else and falls in love...considering the history we have both had...😆

Even if someone is leaving their long held belief of something...the transition takes a whole lot of time...

I would like to see layers...the conflict...the hard road of making a non-believer into a believer...Someone jumping through hoops to apologize to his wife for a joke, at this point, and bending over backwards so that she "talks" to him... ...seems oh well...like I wrote in my post...like he is under the influence...compared to his base line...even though ...him actually falling in love with her seems perfectly natural...




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Because RR is too different from other love/hate stories people are expecting Rudra to be cruel to Paro even after she give him back his life. I am sure he will be back to his normal self later on and might start to hate her again.
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Originally posted by: -Swetz-

Because RR is too different from other love/hate stories people are expecting Rudra to be cruel to Paro even after she give him back his life. I am sure he will be back to his normal self later on and might start to hate her again.



Im sure they'll have more misunderstandings and fights but it would suck if him being all nice to her is only to just get back at her eventually for victimizing him into the marriage
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sush-


Rudra believing and trusting the sincerity of Paros love for him should come with at least as much difficulty as IF juntas trust for believing that a character like him just forgets everything else and falls in love...considering the history we have both had...😆

Even if someone is leaving their long held belief of something...the transition takes a whole lot of time...

I would like to see layers...the conflict...the hard road of making a non-believer into a believer...Someone jumping through hoops to apologize to his wife for a joke, at this point, and bending over backwards so that she "talks" to him... ...seems oh well...like I wrote in my post...like he is under the influence...compared to his base line...even though ...him actually falling in love with her seems perfectly natural...





I agree that the transition is a bit too fast especially the extent to which he is softening but i guess that is a bit more to do with writers trying to improve ratings through a romantic track
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ok I will just post what I wrote on Napster's post.

Here you go...my two cents!

LET'S REWIND

Captor - Captive bits

I will only bring those situations where Rudra has acted completely out of character even before the marriage!

What aspect of Rudra's jallad-like character made him tend to her swollen foot and place her on his bed that night? He could have simply placed the hot water bag under the foot right where she was - on the floor leaning against his settee.

Just before that what made Rudra lend her his shoulder to lean on with her twisted foot whilst walking out of the haveli. He could have asked Sunheri to do that. LOL Sunheri could have handled two Paros. She did not need a good foot to speak up. Considering BSD tactics more the injury and the pain more a statement can come out of a suspect.

What aspect of Rudra's character made him take a slap for Paro? In fact it would have worked better if she were to be tortured at the hands of someone else and Paro might have given a statement out of sheer frustration and despair.

What aspect of Rudra's character made him tend to Paro's burnt hands, acidic-haldi body or even a mere cut when she was a captive and he fed her.

On the day of the felicitation ceremony, though Paro had ran off with Teju, Rudra only had thoughts of Paro. After his speech and before her confession, all he could think of in that crowd was his Paro.

Then the embarrassment happened. What did Rudra do to Paro really? Did he insult her in front of everyone? Had it been another grey character he would have insulted her and reduced her to tears. Not forgetting his father lay in a coma at home he could have even brought that up. No he heard Paro out. She spoke of their childhood connection and her "Aur dil bhi"

She comes back home pleading to marry her. And he asks the same question to Danveer that we are all asking right now about Rudra's change of heart. Danveer explains "It takes just a moment"

Now from the night of the wedding to before their trip to Jaipur, what has Rudra done to hurt Paro.

The vows sounded scarier than they really were. He did not have to even voice them, but he did and pulled her in his arms during the 8th vachan.

Did he throw her out of the room, manhandled her or verbal abuse. Nothing. He was drunk and a lot more could have been excused had he done any of these things. All he did was forcibly get her to drink milk as against his not consuming MORE alcohol. So technically Paro got him to do something in her own way! Had he to take that bottle to his mouth and empty it AFTER she drank the milk, it would have been an insult to Paro. (which ofcourse usually we have seen grey heroes do - like an ASR, an RK maybe (dunno as did not see the show), or an MJ (the worst of the lot) do in hate marriages- like throw food, throw a cup of tea, walk out of the room, arm-twist, threaten rape, push down a hill, threaten to burn the wife...blah blah)

So there you go...the night was a mess more so for Rudra than Paro. The first night itself Paro managed to stop him from drinking.

Morning after we see a Rudra who warns everyone to dare not harm Paro. And then goes on to tend to her little scratch of a wound. Other shows family members keep taunting the heroine for no rhyme or reason. That's not happening here.

Then came their visit to the BSD office, all he could do was sit there and be stunned to listen to his wife tell VK Singh that this marriage was for keeps for her. She wanted to marry though not the way it happened.

Again we have the SWs around and all his acts are a farce. Yet when he gets to know of her burnt wrist he tends to it and Kakisa gets a worst still warning. Is this the Jallad Rudra who negated all his vows!

Ok then we have the day Paro convinces Damyanti. Like Squivi says it was a turning point of their relationship, His turning back and looking at her, where he might have wanted to thank her. For without her unwavering support he would have lost his identity as a Man. For him his job was like losing his mother again.

The most amazing this about Rudra is that this hero negated all his vows but is doing just the opposite. Whereas we have all anti-heroes going through their real vows on the wedding day, yet working against all of them through their hate/contract marriages.

And to top it off is a woman who does not stop telling him that she loves him, from the very moment of "Aur dil bhi" to the ginti ke bahar pyaar! She tells him and she tells it to the world.

The scene where she tells him, I would ask you about your scar and places her finger on it. His face says it all. He gulps hard...the effect of every word that she says, is hitting him, the outpouring of her love is overwhelming him.

Rudra is already drenched in this love shower Naps. Someone who was parched for love is getting drawn into the Paro web, getting soaked...and he has nowhere to run for shelter...that is if he wants to!

The Jaipur trip acted as a trigger for some of those suppressed feelings to surface. He is loosening up, and taking baby steps to being colored by Paro.

And isn't he the same naughty little boy who made his uncle run in circles around the house?

About the remark on he wished he had never met her that day. Which guy likes his life being turned upside down?. She has complicated things for him. It's a typical mardon waali remark!

One more thing, how much does Rudra know of Paro's relationship with Mala. She only told him that Tej clarified that Mala knew nothing about his gun smuggling and that Mala was like her foster mother. She did not give a detailed account or sung praises over praises.

Considering the way Paro has warmed up to Maithli and calls her jija, and then his father Babusa even before the wedding. Rudra has not dwelt much on Paro-Mala relationship. We have seen as viewers some glimpses of their equation but he hasn't.

When he spoke to Aman, he said he had nothing to do with Mala. He has wiped her out of his mind. Secondly when the Mala bit comes there is going to be a lot of truth out in the open. Thakurian is not a grey character. She is made out to be bad by Mohini. Dilsher too might be at fault somewhere. So it's not like he is going to take it out on Paro.

What I foresee after Rudra falls deeply and madly in love with Paro and admits, Mohini is going to play the charitraheen game. The game of never to trust a beautiful woman, where another man is used (it could be Sumer or even Aman) against Paro. Because Rudra's love for Paro is going to be "saans kaise loon" kind of stifling love. That's when it's going to be painful...but I think Paro is stronger than we think she is. She will come out of her dark phase, and he will go looking for her (realizing his mistake like he did when he put the room in complete darkness)...like the pearl of her odhni!

Phew did I say two cents at the start!

LOL sorry about this...but just could not stop.

Here is a song that I would like to dedicate to Paro & Rudra as I listened to it during my evening walk

Celine Dion - If that's what it takes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC8SG2BaNzQ


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ddFan2012

Ok I will just post what I wrote on Napster's post.

Here you go...my two cents!

LET'S REWIND

Captor - Captive bits

I will only bring those situations where Rudra has acted completely out of character even before the marriage!

What aspect of Rudra's jallad-like character made him tend to her swollen foot and place her on his bed that night? He could have simply placed the hot water bag under the foot right where she was - on the floor leaning against his settee.

Just before that what made Rudra lend her his shoulder to lean on with her twisted foot whilst walking out of the haveli. He could have asked Sunheri to do that. LOL Sunheri could have handled two Paros. She did not need a good foot to speak up. Considering BSD tactics more the injury and the pain more a statement can come out of a suspect.

What aspect of Rudra's character made him take a slap for Paro? In fact it would have worked better if she were to be tortured at the hands of someone else and Paro might have given a statement out of sheer frustration and despair.

What aspect of Rudra's character made him tend to Paro's burnt hands, acidic-haldi body or even a mere cut when she was a captive and he fed her.

On the day of the felicitation ceremony, though Paro had ran off with Teju, Rudra only had thoughts of Paro. After his speech and before her confession, all he could think of in that crowd was his Paro.

Then the embarrassment happened. What did Rudra do to Paro really? Did he insult her in front of everyone? Had it been another grey character he would have insulted her and reduced her to tears. Not forgetting his father lay in a coma at home he could have even brought that up. No he heard Paro out. She spoke of their childhood connection and her "Aur dil bhi"

She comes back home pleading to marry her. And he asks the same question to Danveer that we are all asking right now about Rudra's change of heart. Danveer explains "It takes just a moment"

Now from the night of the wedding to before their trip to Jaipur, what has Rudra done to hurt Paro.

The vows sounded scarier than they really were. He did not have to even voice them, but he did and pulled her in his arms during the 8th vachan.

Did he throw her out of the room, manhandled her or verbal abuse. Nothing. He was drunk and a lot more could have been excused had he done any of these things. All he did was forcibly get her to drink milk as against his not consuming MORE alcohol. So technically Paro got him to do something in her own way! Had he to take that bottle to his mouth and empty it AFTER she drank the milk, it would have been an insult to Paro. (which ofcourse usually we have seen grey heroes do - like an ASR, an RK maybe (dunno as did not see the show), or an MJ (the worst of the lot) do in hate marriages- like throw food, throw a cup of tea, walk out of the room, arm-twist, threaten rape, push down a hill, threaten to burn the wife...blah blah)

So there you go...the night was a mess more so for Rudra than Paro. The first night itself Paro managed to stop him from drinking.

Morning after we see a Rudra who warns everyone to dare not harm Paro. And then goes on to tend to her little scratch of a wound. Other shows family members keep taunting the heroine for no rhyme or reason. That's not happening here.

Then came their visit to the BSD office, all he could do was sit there and be stunned to listen to his wife tell VK Singh that this marriage was for keeps for her. She wanted to marry though not the way it happened.

Again we have the SWs around and all his acts are a farce. Yet when he gets to know of her burnt wrist he tends to it and Kakisa gets a worst still warning. Is this the Jallad Rudra who negated all his vows!

Ok then we have the day Paro convinces Damyanti. Like Squivi says it was a turning point of their relationship, His turning back and looking at her, where he might have wanted to thank her. For without her unwavering support he would have lost his identity as a Man. For him his job was like losing his mother again.

The most amazing this about Rudra is that this hero negated all his vows but is doing just the opposite. Whereas we have all anti-heroes going through their real vows on the wedding day, yet working against all of them through their hate/contract marriages.

And to top it off is a woman who does not stop telling him that she loves him, from the very moment of "Aur dil bhi" to the ginti ke bahar pyaar! She tells him and she tells it to the world.

The scene where she tells him, I would ask you about your scar and places her finger on it. His face says it all. He gulps hard...the effect of every word that she says, is hitting him, the outpouring of her love is overwhelming him.

Rudra is already drenched in this love shower Naps. Someone who was parched for love is getting drawn into the Paro web, getting soaked...and he has nowhere to run for shelter...that is if he wants to!

The Jaipur trip acted as a trigger for some of those suppressed feelings to surface. He is loosening up, and taking baby steps to being colored by Paro.

And isn't he the same naughty little boy who made his uncle run in circles around the house?

About the remark on he wished he had never met her that day. Which guy likes his life being turned upside down?. She has complicated things for him. It's a typical mardon waali remark!

One more thing, how much does Rudra know of Paro's relationship with Mala. She only told him that Tej clarified that Mala knew nothing about his gun smuggling and that Mala was like her foster mother. She did not give a detailed account or sung praises over praises.

Considering the way Paro has warmed up to Maithli and calls her jija, and then his father Babusa even before the wedding. Rudra has not dwelt much on Paro-Mala relationship. We have seen as viewers some glimpses of their equation but he hasn't.

When he spoke to Aman, he said he had nothing to do with Mala. He has wiped her out of his mind. Secondly when the Mala bit comes there is going to be a lot of truth out in the open. Thakurian is not a grey character. She is made out to be bad by Mohini. Dilsher too might be at fault somewhere. So it's not like he is going to take it out on Paro.

What I foresee after Rudra falls deeply and madly in love with Paro and admits, Mohini is going to play the charitraheen game. The game of never to trust a beautiful woman, where another man is used (it could be Sumer or even Aman) against Paro. Because Rudra's love for Paro is going to be "saans kaise loon" kind of stifling love. That's when it's going to be painful...but I think Paro is stronger than we think she is. She will come out of her dark phase, and he will go looking for her (realizing his mistake like he did when he put the room in complete darkness)...like the pearl of her odhni!

Phew did I say two cents at the start!

LOL sorry about this...but just could not stop.

Here is a song that I would like to dedicate to Paro & Rudra as I listened to it during my evening walk

Celine Dion - If that's what it takes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC8SG2BaNzQ


DD!! Take a bow!! Beautifully said!! 👏👏👏
And I agree with you - the eight vows were ground under his boots the morning after he made them when he tended to her cut palm. If you look at the CVs' track record on RR - the MUs happen and are resolved rather quickly. The loops are closed really fast - all barring one, the beautiful woman is not trustworthy. And that is the Othello MU that will persist. The rest are down the drain already. What we see is what we are getting. And I am so happy that that is the case - RR is unique and not clichd. And as before I am going into the upcoming episodes with my defences down. And like before I have faith that I won't be disappointed. Well faith, and now ST's tweet. 😆
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Originally posted by: tvbug2011

DD!! Take a bow!! Beautifully said!! 👏👏👏
And I agree with you - the eight vows were ground under his boots the morning after he made them when he tended to her cut palm. If you look at the CVs' track record on RR - the MUs happen and are resolved rather quickly. The loops are closed really fast - all barring one, the beautiful woman is not trustworthy. And that is the Othello MU that will persist. The rest are down the drain already. What we see is what we are getting. And I am so happy that that is the case - RR is unique and not clichd. And as before I am going into the upcoming episodes with my defences down. And like before I have faith that I won't be disappointed. Well faith, and now ST's tweet. 😆



Thanks Sabs,

Exactly RR is treated so differently.. Same with me, infact I have stopped watching other love stories that I did earlier like GD & YHM, just so that I stop comparing.

Here is another addition to Ganag's comment on Napster's post..

"Thanks Ganga (if I may call you so)...I do agree it looks as if its too soon. But in RR things are treated so differently. No MU stays longer than a week or so. Which is itself a big surprise. Everytime an MU is cleared it changes their equation...making their relationship way stronger than a couple who may be together for a longer time but just don't talk.

Ganga also something extremely important to this show is this couple interacts, is very very vocal about their feelings for each other. May it be their care, love, or what they don't like about each other. See Paro says, "Muje aap par bahut gussa aata hai" Now have we ever got to hear a lead say this in a fight?

We have gotten so used to shows having leads not talk, not communicate, get the worse out of the each other etc...this goes on for months. Here in RR the treatment of the story itself is different.

Two things...that again struck me...

1) When Paro told Rudra "Aaapko bohot mehnat karni padegi Major Sahab...Aapko mhar dil mein utarna padega...lekin joote utaar kar... (joote -something that we use to tread on, stamp out things...here it meant he would have to undo his emotional baggage, his issues and come to her)

2) Geetanjali pushing him to straighten things out between him and Paro. That is another reason Rudra wants Paro to forgive him.

Rudra is now wooing her. He does not know the right way...but is making an effort.. Paro is the one who is stubborn as always...and in her own way is making him do things that he has never done before.

See her dialogue as the end, "I ask for something very small compared to the maafi...after all I am your wife." She asked for bangles...for she had hated the ones he put on her the first time and he had walked all over them. She wants him to return that chooda back to her.

And like in the Shiv-Parvati story this is where Parvati brings him into the wordly affairs...getting him domesticated.

Also Rudra ko pyaar mein poora utarna padega! To a point of doing anything for her. Actually come to think of it he would lay his life down for her, but its the silly stuff that does not sit well with many viwers. But why not...if he is ready to lay his life for her then why not an apology? And that is exactly what is happening now...small, mundane little things that Paro wants from her husband...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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*Paro hasn't turned ugly over the Jaipur trip neither has Rudra's opinion on beautiful women changed,*
^haha. Well said. But m a bit confused as to what ur trying to say... r u saying u dont like his suddenly changing behaviour or u like it or u understand it??
Sorry but it didnt get across...

But never the less, im quite enjoying the current scenes. And am certainly luking forward to when the time comes for rud to fulfill his 8 vachans. Not for the hatred, but for the love tht'll grow afterwards...

Tfs tho. :)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..Shanae..

*Paro hasn't turned ugly over the Jaipur trip neither has Rudra's opinion on beautiful women changed,*

^haha. Well said. But m a bit confused as to what ur trying to say... r u saying u dont like his suddenly changing behaviour or u like it or u understand it??
Sorry but it didnt get across...

But never the less, im quite enjoying the current scenes. And am certainly luking forward to when the time comes for rud to fulfill his 8 vachans. Not for the hatred, but for the love tht'll grow afterwards...

Tfs tho. :)



I understand it...i dont think Rudra is the dark angry young man we've seen in other shows so we shouldn't get worried that his softening behaviour is indicating towards more Jallad like behaviour and schemes for the future

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