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Posted: 11 years ago
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Breaking news flash: Jodha ko kuch ho gaya. I have been asking for the last two weeks that I cannot relate to this Jodha ... She is not the Jodha that I fell in with on this show. How relieved when Bharmal asked the same question, "Are you the same Jodha?" If her father can ask her that, why can't I?

If this was any other Ekta Kapoor serial, I would have assumed that this was an imposter Jodha after face surgery. 😆 How much can a character change in the name of hurt? Does her basic instincts change?

Please tell me that Jodha did not do the following three things today:

(1) After she saw Jalal's reflection while floating the diya for Ganguar pooja, she again insists she will not go back to Agra. What is the purpose of the Ganguar pooja in her mind? Did this Jalal not tell her that by breaking his heart, he will have a worse punishment than death?

How can Jodha be shown even lying to God and as she is praying? No fond memories of Jalal in flashback ... Nothing except ... "I won't go back to Agra with him" ..At least, smile a bit ... Think of Jalal ... Then shake it off. That shows signs of internal turmoil.

(2) When Jalal first touches her ... Did she actually flinch in disgust? No emotional connect ... Nothing. No "ishq hai woh ehsaas." She doesn't even show concern he is injured? And the poor guy, keeps repeating he wants to talk to her. At least show concern a bit and then harden up.

(3) When she talks to Raja Bharmal she first asks, "What is he doing in my room" and by the way "Why is he hurt?" Is this the Jodha who was fervently praying for his well-being before? And now, she is more offended he is in his room than him being hurt?

CVs, you are not showing Jodha in internal turmoil at all ... You are showing her completely against Jalal and I am not sure why. Please fix this soon!

The real take 5:

Phew, now that I have said all that, you would think I had nothing to like about the episode but there were quite a few things to cheer about: 😊

(1) Jalal defeats Abul Mali: As we all expected, the sikka helped save his life ... I see this more as a symbol of Jalal's belief in his love that saved his life then Jodha's gift saving his life. As always, Jalal used his brains by throwing sand into Abul Mali's eyes and defeats him. Loved that in his dialogues he not only cites his love as one of the reasons he survived but also for his responsibility to his people. Thank God he still remembers he is the Shehenshah!

And who said he doesn't have a heart, he forgave Abul Mali for his sister again ?!?

(2) Even Jalal realizes the importance of the Gangour pooja: While I am not sure about Jodha's sentiments during the Gangour pooja, but as soon as Jalal finds out he is in Amer and it is Gangour ... He wants to see his Jodha Begum despite all his pain! That is how much Jodha and Gangour mean to him! Is pyaar ko kya naam doon?

By the way. I understand how he got to Amer with Bharmal sending his soldiers after him ... But I still do not understand how he got there so quickly? My guess: Jalal was actually subconsciously going in the direction of Amer instead of Agra and so he was actually very close go Amer when Abul Mali attacked him. The way Jalal runs after Jodha these days, like he did today, I would not be surprised.

(3) Memories of the last Gangour: This is a bittersweet one I am sure for many. Today, brought me back memories of the beautiful Gangour pooja where this whole love story started, at least for Jalal. Then, I saw a Jalal enamored with Jodha in the pond, as a puzzled, unknowing Jodha looked on. Today, I saw Jalal totally in love with Jodha, who wants to see her once in all his pain. And Jodha, still has questions in her eyes. We know at least one side of the love story has progressed ... When will the CVs show the other half!

Obviously, the CVs have completely disbanded logic by having Mainavati say it was the last Gangour that there was so much rain... So I guess they celebrated two Holis before Gangour ... How convenient!

(4) Mainavati and her reverse psychology: I almost lost all hopes for Mainavati when she told Bharmal that what will they do with Jamai Saa in Amer given Jodha is ao angry. But, she soon realized she was better than we thought! She used reverse psychology by saying why would Jodha go back and she was insulted so much. I loved it! Jodha did not know what to say, which is a good thing given her script writers these days,

And Mainavati knew what her antar aatma and all of us knew: Jodha wants Jalal to really keeping manaofying her. Now, what he has been doing all these days, I don't know! Jodha, can you let us know what you want Jalal to do?

(5) Bharmal wins the prize today for asking the question on all our minds, " Are you the Jodha Begum who broke all the rules to save a bird? This is your husband!" He said some other good things, like Jalal has been roaming for days to talk to you, but this dialogue won the prize for me.

And I felt like clapping and whistling! 👏

And while the precap looks cute, with Jodha on top of Jalal and Jalal looking at her with bewildered eyes ... Till we get our Jodha back, this is a mere lollipop. I am guessing she sees some bug or something next to Jalal and tries to take it off without disturbing him. Or perhaps, she was just leaning in to get her pillow ... so she can sleep elsewhere. Let us see if the CVs surprise us. I will keep expectations low so I can cheer tomorrow.

So, what are your thoughts on the episode today?


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divya I have yet to read your post but I posted this just now on Shyamala's thread and copying it here - it is a little analysis of 'Mhaari Jodha'.


The issue is no longer about Jodha realising her fault in this particular issue. The issue is larger.

Jodha, from the day the marrige to Jalal was fixed, has been shouting Ghrina. After the Tasneem track also, she has not moved from her ghrina place much, if you notice. And she is still at that same point where she was at the start - why????

This woman fell in love with Jalal on that ghangour eve when she saw his reflection in water - she did not know who he was and since she was to be married to Suryabhan she locked this fact away in the deepest recess of her heart - and she has never dared to open it since.

Then came their marriage and her subconscious realised that this is the same man from Ghangour - her subconscious, her heart, her soul realised that this was 'The One' - and since it was the man she had sworn to hate and kill, that love was quickly converted to be read as hate - this is elementary psychology - now with that outburst, Jalal finally broke her heart - and as Rumi says 'you have to break your heart to let the light in' - and this has happened to her - finally the light has seeped into her heart and she can see the truth, which she is still shying away from - that she had fallen in love with Jalal before their marriage - this is the truth - and I am suspecting that this is going to finally blow up before both of them next week with her admission.

This seems to be the dramatic admission that someone mentioned, which is coming up - and if one sees the build this makes sense too.
Edited by adianasr - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divi you have EVERY right to question jodha cos she is not making sense...if you and i could question jalal during benaxir abd tasneem so can we do so to jodha
They have destroyed badal kajri ka essence
this track has done jodhas portrayal no favours
For jodha prem is a four letter word that does not exist outside the notebook 😕
I only liked Bharmal today...not even jalal
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyavm

Breaking news flash: Jodha ko kuch ho gaya. I have been asking for the last two weeks that I cannot relate to this Jodha ... She is not the Jodha that I fell in with on this show. How relieved when Bharmal asked the same question, "Are you the same Jodha?" If her father can ask her that, why can't I?
***Very few feel the way we feel Divya😉

If this was any other Ekta Kapoor serial, I would have assumed that this was an imposter Jodha after face surgery. 😆 How much can a character change in the name of hurt? Does her basic instincts change?

Please tell me that Jodha did not do the following three things today:

(1) After she saw Jalal's reflection while floating the diya for Ganguar pooja, she again insists she will not go back to Agra. What is the purpose of the Ganguar pooja in her mind? Did this Jalal not tell her that by breaking his heart, he will have a worse punishment than death?
***She thought that Jalal has come to take her back, so she needs to act pricey.

How can Jodha be shown even lying to God and as she is praying? No fond memories of Jalal in flashback ... Nothing except ... "I won't go back to Agra with him" ..At least, smile a bit ... Think of Jalal ... Then shake it off. That shows signs of internal turmoil.
***Did you forget that she is hurt, humiliated from the person she loves the most. Give her sometime.

(2) When Jalal first touches her ... Did she actually flinch in disgust? No emotional connect ... Nothing. No "ishq hai woh ehsaas." She doesn't even show concern he is injured? And the poor guy, keeps repeating he wants to talk to her. At least show concern a bit and then harden up.
***Only here, I disagree, I think she thought a 3rd person touched her, as she really didn't know that Jalal was there, she thought it was only her "bhram". So, here I forgive.😆

(3) When she talks to Raja Bharmal she first asks, "What is he doing in my room" and by the way "Why is he hurt?" Is this the Jodha who was fervently praying for his well-being before? And now, she is more offended he is in his room than him being hurt?
***She was more worried about her room.

CVs, you are not showing Jodha in internal turmoil at all ... You are showing her completely against Jalal and I am not sure why. Please fix this soon!
***Lot of people are happy to see this Jodha, hum jaise bahut kam hain, so for trp aunties.

The real take 5:

Phew, now that I have said all that, you would think I had nothing to like about the episode but there were quite a few things to cheer about: 😊

(1) Jalal defeats Abul Mali: As we all expected, the sikka helped save his life ... I see this more as a symbol of Jalal's belief in his love that saved his life then Jodha's gift saving his life. As always, Jalal used his brains by throwing sand into Abul Mali's eyes and defeats him. Loved that in his dialogues he not only cites his love as one of the reasons he survived but also for his responsibility to his people. Thank God he still remembers he is the Shehenshah!

And who said he doesn't have a heart, he forgave Abul Mali for his sister again ?!?
***StilI I was happy he punished him and in such a way, that criminal blind can't even think of harming Jalal. (I know he will, but his face will remind him of his failure)

(2) Even Jalal realizes the importance of the Gangour pooja: While I am not sure about Jodha's sentiments during the Gangour pooja, but as soon as Jalal finds out he is in Amer and it is Gangour ... He wants to see his Jodha Begum despite all his pain! That is how much Jodha and Gangour mean to him! Is pyaar ko kya naam doon?
***Isse Jalal Ki Mohabbat kaho.

By the way. I understand how he got to Amer with Bharmal sending his soldiers after him ... But I still do not understand how he got there so quickly? My guess: Jalal was actually subconsciously going in the direction of Amer instead of Agra and so he was actually very close go Amer when Abul Mali attacked him. The way Jalal runs after Jodha these days, like he did today, I would not be surprised.
***No Logical doubts pls.

(3) Memories of the last Gangour: This is a bittersweet one I am sure for many. Today, brought me back memories of the beautiful Gangour pooja where this whole love story started, at least for Jalal. Then, I saw a Jalal enamored with Jodha in the pond, as a puzzled, unknowing Jodha looked on. Today, I saw Jalal totally in love with Jodha, who wants to see her once in all his pain. And Jodha, still has questions in her eyes. We know at least one side of the love story has progressed ... When will the CVs show the other half!

Obviously, the CVs have completely disbanded logic by having Mainavati say it was the last Gangour that there was so much rain... So I guess they celebrated two Holis before Gangour ... How convenient!
***Calendar screw up by CV's, itna bhayanak mistake.

(4) Mainavati and her reverse psychology: I almost lost all hopes for Mainavati when she told Bharmal that what will they do with Jamai Saa in Amer given Jodha is ao angry. But, she soon realized she was better than we thought! She used reverse psychology by saying why would Jodha go back and she was insulted so much. I loved it! Jodha did not know what to say, which is a good thing given her script writers these days,
***Jodha wants Jalal to Manofy her😡

And Mainavati knew what her antar aatma and all of us knew: Jodha wants Jalal to really keeping manaofying her. Now, what he has been doing all these days, I don't know! Jodha, can you let us know what you want Jalal to do?
***To leave his kingdom and keep manofying his begum

(5) Bharmal wins the prize today for asking the question on our minds, " Are you the Jodha Begum who broke all the rules to save a bird? This is your husband!" He said some other good things, like Jalal has been roaming for days to talk to you, but this dialogue won the prize for me.
***She would be worried about all nirdosh pashu/pakshi, not "nirakunsh Shehansha". He doesn't come under the list.

And I felt like clapping and whistling! 👏

And while the precap looks cute, with Jodha on top of Jalal and Jalal looking at her with bewildered eyes ... Till we get our Jodha back, this is a mere lollipop. I am guessing she sees some bug or something next to Jalal and tries to take it off without disturbing him. Or perhaps, she was just leaning in to get her pillow ... so she can sleep elsewhere. Let us see if the CVs surprise us. I will keep expectations low so I can cheer tomorrow.
***She will remove a bug obviously, still Jalal's look was priceless. 😳

So, what are your thoughts on the episode today?


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Posted: 11 years ago
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u have not kept jodha in ur top 5 point😆
it tells the whole butchering of jodha😡


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divya, first of all I m really sorry I didn't reply to ur post in "Ego wins over Love" thread because I didn't want to increase the debate. But I really respected ur POV. 😊

I have always been supporting Jodha's action to leave Agra though I believed she was too at fault. But today even I m very disappointed with her. Till yesterday she was very worried about Jalal's safety & today when she saw him in her room in injured state she gave no expressions. First, I thought she didn't notice Jalal's wounds as he was covered with a shawl but when she asked BM why Shehenshah is so injured I got shocked. Even after hearing that AM attacked him she looked less worried. BM rightly asked her if she is the same Jodha who broke the rules of the palace just to save a bird. Even I wonder if she is the same Jodha who took the risk of meeting his brother secretly just to save Jalal. OR may be she wants to pretend before everyone including Jalal that she doesn't care for him. She must be worried inside but didn't want to show Jalal that she is worried abt him. Ok you are angry with him but u could have shown some concern out of humanity.

The scene could have been executed better. If they wanted to convey that she wanted to pretend that she was not worried abt him but in actual she was, they could have worked more on Jodha's expressions. She was expressionless today. CVs are really playing with her character. I m happy BM acknowledged the fact before Jalal that she's ziddi otherwise her behaviour today doesn't match with an ideal heroin(which most of the daily soap makers try to portray their female leads). But BM & MV really rocked today. 👍🏼

Lovely post Divvya.😳
Edited by AbHer_neha - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sahi kaha hai kisi ne..sabka din ata hai jab cvs unn par meherbaan hote hain...of all the people the two people who showed any signs of logic and meaning and making sense today were...drumroll...raja bharmal and mainavati!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😛😛😛😛😲😲😲👏😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divi
He he, I enjoyed today's episode very much.

In my happiness, I shall magnanimously distribute a few awards -
1. Clean city Award - Amer. Kudos to Bharmal for maintaining cleanliness of the lakes in his city. Even in the dark night, Jodha can see Jalaal's relfections so clearly! 👏 She created a mini oil slick when she put the diya, take her class later. 😆
2. Good sport award - Jodha's good aunty. She realized Jodha was thinking she was hallucinating, and just played along, instead of being a party-pooper saying, dearie, he's right behind you.😆
3. Magic make-up award - Bharmal's doctor, whoever it is. Jalaal, had fainted or probably sedated on the way back, but the doc, had the superlative talent of putting surma on his closed eyes! What a talent, what a talent! 😆
4.Good cop bad cop award - Raja Bharmal and Rani Mainavati. Nice way of making your daughter to do what you want her to do. And she took the bait, she was back with her badam milk, chausar, lep combination. (Thank God! She didn't mention whine, would have loved to see Mainvati's face.) If only Jalaal knew this trick, he tried I'll give him that, with Ben, but, alas he failed.
5. Boo! Award - Loony Sheny. Mainavati, and her sister-in-law, were standing in two different places inside the puja room, but, Sheny was standing behind both! In the same position! Man she's spooky!😲
6. Magic Shawl award - Jalaal's red shawl. How did that thing come to Amer????? 😲 I can almost visualize it, having a life of its own and flying away from Agra like Aladdin's magic carpet. 😆

I liked how Jalaal listed his reasons for survival, sipahi, mohabbat, awaam ke liye farz. Deadly combination.👍🏼☺️ When are your bandages coming off? ☺️

The precap looks tantalizing. Wonder what it is that Jodha wants to pluck from Jalaal's side? A snake? Sorry was remembering the tent scene during their Ajmer trip. 😆

For now it looks like she's back to being ghrina machine. Single focus, Jalaal's safety during Ben track, anger now. Alien remember?
😆

I haven't seen fauj of Jodha's sisters yet. Where are those imps? They always used to fawn over their gore chitte sundar jeejaji.😆

Great post!👍🏼
Edited by rpeez - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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After such a long time ... I liked the episode... Raja Bharmal n Rani Mainavati ki jai ho... they played the good cop bad cop game and its works... and I m not interested in Jodha... time waste
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Posted: 11 years ago
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1st of all i loved bharmal & mainawati today. & bharmal rocked. at least sumbody tried to put sum senses in jodha's head. & jalal always had the heart. its just tht he never realized tht. he always cared for his sisters & their happiness from day 1 only.👍🏼

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