Jodha Akbar 214: The meltdown- Part 1:Mod note pg58 - Page 70

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: adianasr

You know what Sandhya, now I want TE to ask and Jodha to refuse as per her FB and then TE to give her that mega shock treatment which still makes her go to Amer and TE does not stop her but after that I want TE to be at Agra and Jodha to come to him when she realises what she is loosing by clinging to her pride and ego - now I want her to come to him!!! He deserves that from her.

Like that's ever going to happen 😕 Jalal is already playing Holi Holi (forgotten about Sultanat) and next agenda is murda murda and we're all becoming murgi murgi
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Posted: 11 years ago
This thread is still alive?
What is this sorcery? 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
jalal has the genes of HB. jodha begum is worried about all the pashu, pakshis, women, no-women, jalal roaming around jodha begum & sultanate gaya tel lene, HB had become "devdasi". & jalal to na ghar ka na ghat ka. if he stays in agra then also HB will kill him by blaming him for his "gunah-e-azim". EK is writing her own history. 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lashy

Yes, if he brings about widow remarriage at least this track will have some sense behind it.. because its not achieving the akdha journey it was meant to achieve... well, mileage-wise there's been a journey but emotionally/figuratively there's none yet 😆

All of Jalal's errors that he's committed so far have been a direct result of the fact that his heart that beats for Jodha has thought he's been cheated by her (his blind faith in MA and Ruqs is already disappearing)... If not, he's eons ahead in his love for her.. the CVs really need to press the FF button on their plans of how and when they propose to show Jo recognizing her love for Ja..
will we ever get a Jo junoon in pyaar... HK was a strong woman, right? She knew he was hers, she was possessive of him and she wanted to assert those rights.. this Jo is not being shown like this at all.. 😕

And Akbar playing dead man dead man in Mathura streets... any records of this? Some are rejoicing the return of Tedha emperor.. but, the notion is actually making me feel like I'm watching something ridiculous unless we learn of a new hunar of Akbar.. aka public mein tamasha...

so far, Jodha's storming off in snow storm an Jalal making Ben sitting beside him were both somehow still not really in the public eye.. 😆



I fervently hope Jalal doesn't play such a childish trick. Playing "I'm Dead - I'm Not" game doesn't suit him. That too in public eye 😲 Tauba Tauba !!

And just imagine even after that if she rejects him... kya izzat reh jayegi ?

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lashy

Like that's ever going to happen 😕 Jalal is already playing Holi Holi (forgotten about Sultanat) and next agenda is murda murda and we're all becoming murgi murgi



Lashy I will wait till tomorrow or maybe even Monday (becoz I think the murda murda game may be the cliffhanger for the ME) before I rave and rant.

Btw 1 interesting point - Todarmal in his talk to TE mentioned the teerth kar in passing - I do believe that TE will get Todarmal back with him and get him to work out the financial connotations of the abolition of this tax so as to counter the religious heads.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: adianasr



Lashy I will wait till tomorrow or maybe even Monday (becoz I think the murda murda game may be the cliffhanger for the ME) before I rave and rant.

Btw 1 interesting point - Todarmal in his talk to TE mentioned the teerth kar in passing - I do believe that TE will get Todarmal back with him and get him to work out the financial connotations of the abolition of this tax so as to counter the religious heads.



my dear adi it will only happen if ekta gets the keera of making female version of akbar out..i hope jodha doesn't takes all the credit again
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: mandyg



my dear adi it will only happen if ekta gets the keera of making female version of akbar out..i hope jodha doesn't takes all the credit again



Mandy agar Jodha Agra ki jagah Amer chali gayi toh credit nahin le paayegi - hence lets all hope that she does go to Amer and refuses to come to Agra 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: adianasr



Mandy agar Jodha Agra ki jagah Amer chali gayi toh credit nahin le paayegi - hence lets all hope that she does go to Amer and refuses to come to Agra 😆



i hope so too😆..as long as she is not around him and he does not act like devdas its ok..i hope he thinks of saltanat for a change
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: adianasr

You know what guys, I posted this on another topic and copying it here - with this new little twist yesterday, of the public wanting to kill that widow for having fallen in love - the CVs have managed to make our TE the original feminist and liberal - when he told Jodha that he is releasing her of their relation and setting her free and asked her to leave, he was under the impression, created by Jodha herself, of her being in love with another man - and if this public reaction is anything to go by, her punishment too would be death and no chance for a hearing would be given, just as this woman was not - yet TE, despite his pain, accepted that a woman had as much right to love as a man and hence set her free to follow her heart - Now to me this definitely is a liberalist view - ya, its a different issue that Jodha loves him and not another but circumstances and Jodha herself made it seem otherwise!!!

Bravo CVs (and this is not sarcasm) for showing TE's liberal stance, albeit in a twisted way!!!
Infact it has been exposed today that TE has been able to go beyond his ego while Jodha is still in its grip!!!



👏👏👏Very True...Liberal thinking of Jalal was evident earlier as well when he got his widowed sister Bakshi remarried...Not only that,he himself went one step further & married salima (begum) after Bairam khan death!!!


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Posted: 11 years ago
Well, my dear, I think it is my kids and Adiana and Mandy et al! They are a tough lot and not easy to silence!😉 Besides, I am still hovering over it, like Caspar the Friendly Ghost.😉

Now, my dears, Divya is not going to forgive me for what I have just done to her latest,nice, hopeful thread, but after watching today's episode, climaxing in a replay of the Gwalior Hakim's eulogies to Jodha Begum, I simply could not help it! I think at least some here will enjoy it, so here it is.

See you soon, Mandy, and many more of you too, I hope! And yes, I will PM the full list to all those who have asked for it.

Sandhya, Jalal today reminded me of Kamalahaasan in a shilambu (singlestick) fight.

Shyamala /Aunty

Posted: 18 April 2014 at 1:36pm | IP Logged
Divya my dear,

I always like your lucid positivity and your determined optimism, even when the grounds for it are not clearly visible to more cynical souls like myself. This post of yours is no exception.

But how many times do I have to tell you that you cannot have it both ways? Either you blame everything on the CVs, or you analyse the character. You are hedging your bets here. You do not want to say that Jodha is still ego-driven, and not yet really in love with Jalal, l for all her sudden revelation of her bahut prem for him.

For as my favourite reader of hearts, Vicki, noted the other day, in love there is no room for any ego, and today in Jodha, the ego did not lose to what she calls love. Jalal is in love, for he has no ego any more where she is concerned and he is willing to go to hell and back to get her.

But what does she do? She stands there and watches him fight, one against so many, exactly like a 1960s film heroine, the only difference being that she does not wring her hands as they used to do! 😉She does not run out to help him, as would be the instinctive reaction of any woman with the man she loves. Or even to shield and drag away the unfortunate widow.

Instead, she acts as a silently applauding audience of one, except that what she is applauding is not Jalal, but herself, her lines and her teaching that he has absorbed so well. Pretty soon, you will see Jodha Begum somehow given the credit for Akbar's attempt to permit widow remarriage as well.

OK, let us let her inertia pass, attributing it to the proprieties of those days. But she does not run out to help him even when she sees him staggering away, and instead she exclaims, as if she was Columbus discovering the New World, Shahenshah ko chot pahunchi hai. unhe aushadi ki aavashyakta hai! What on earth did she think all the khoon bhari maang came from? The local paint shop?

As for her harassing Kanha later, she seems to have forgotten all that she confessed to her antaraatma, about the role played by her stubborn silence in precipitating Jalal's furious jealousy and all that followed. Now she is one up on her cheerleader Ammijaan in leaving Jalal to shoulder all the blame for everything that happened.

This apart, while Jalal is lost to all but his need to get her back and is in an agony of despair, regret and guilt all this while, Jodha has not been shown to miss him or to think about their special moments together, except for that one scene when she weeps and prays for his well being. Even there, there is no helpless sense of loss of the kind that comes from a lost love.

It all boils down to what I have said all along: Jalal is the lover and Jodha the beloved. She will never be capable to his kind of deewaangee; she is no Laila or Juliet.
I hope Jalal understands this, for otherwise he is in for a major disappointment.

All that she seems to remember is her hurt pride and her aatmasammaan, not the agony he is going through. This is not my idea of love.

Now he will fall at her feet, literally and metaphorically, and abase himself in an orgy of repentance, but she will not utter a single word of apology for all her cumulative follies that have led to this, including the endless risks he is running chasing after her across the country all by himself, or nearly so.

The part in your post with which I agree unreservedly is this one: It was not Jodha's journey of love and how she transformed from a Rajput princess to a Mughal Begum. It was all about the softening of Jalal and hence, I feel the story has focused more on the evolution of Jalal's love than Jodha's.

This process has been coming along swimmingly. It is not just the evolution of Jalal's love. It is really about the reverse of Darwinian evolution. Jalal has in fact gone backwards from a vertebrate to an invertebrate. 😉He now also resembles a marshmallow left out in the sun, and he is crying enough to solve the water problems of any city in his empire.

As for Jodha's journey of love, I have not seen her go anywhere, whether towards the woman who loves Jalal or towards a Mughal begum. She is still exactly where she was, or nearly so, for she no longer hates Jalal.

How I miss the delightful, sassy, discreetly self-assertive Kajri! She was too good to be true, so no wonder she vanished like a will o' the wisp.

I am sorry to have rained on your parade, my dear, but it is always best to face uncomfortable facts. and not wrap them up in pink cotton candy. Jodha might well prove me wrong and come to love Jalal as he loves her, but that day is going to be long in coming, if at all it arrives!

Shyamala Aunty

PS: As for your major realisation, the Zee tagline was not "from a great warrior to a benevolent king". It was haivaan ko banaaya insaan. Let us not soft soap that! A more ill-founded assertion cannot be found, but still this is trotted out as if it was the Eleventh Commandment!

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Originally posted by: Star_girl

This thread is still alive?

What is this sorcery? 😆

Edited by sashashyam - 11 years ago

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