Rudra's impending court martial is well deserved

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Posted: 11 years ago
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My purpose is not to insult a soldier and what he does for his country and people.

The unprofessional unethical and impulsive manner in which major Rudra handled the baarat deserves the court martial.
How does he even think he can save himself from being sacked?

He used false documents to carry out his attack on the marriage party,
Inspite of warning from his senior against doing any encounters, He acted impulsively, irresponsibly and massacred all the terrorists, and thus removed all evidence himself.
he could have spared a couple of them for interrogation. And when he realized that all he has as witness was this poor innocent girl, all he does for 8 full weeks is threaten her, sexually violate her and force an unwanted marriage on her.
What happened to his sharp Major mind? Why not get to Thakursa's village to get some evidence. Majorsa was busy intimidating his witness, forcing mehendi on her burnt hands and removing necklace from her sexy neck. None of his actions in the last 8 weeks paint a picture of a responsible and patriotic soldier in my mind, only a rash, irresponsible one.
He pays no heed to his boss's advice to treat the girl kindly and does things to further incriminate the BSD in her already tarnished mind.
Court martial is the only punishment for such an impulsive abusive rash and irresponsible soldier. That's reality.
He hasn't backed up his action with concrete evidence and has to pay for it.
No sympathies.
It's your own doing Majorsa and deserve what is coming your way.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Interesting point of view. Rudra did take the law in his hands by creating the fake warrant. I honestly believe that Rudra only had the best interests in mind when he took a direct course of action. Yes, I do believe that he is responsible for his condition, but the same can be said about Paro. They are both receiving the fruits of their labor.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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True, both of them have to now face up to their actions.
Actually that's what makes the show so different and intense.
I am scared and excited about the next episodes.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Looking at it objectively, the worst thing Rudra has done is threaten Paro that she has to sign the papers or else she will be subjected to a forced marriage with him.
The rest can be excused as poor judgement ... although forging papers would not be looked upon very kindly either.

But the threat of sign or marriage - that is serious. If that was to reach his superiors, he wouldn't just be court martialled, he would be sacked at once, and hauled up in a criminal court for intimidation of a witness and sexual harassment. There is no excuse he can find for this at all, especially since he is fully prepared to go through with the marriage, when he knows fully well she doesn't want to marry him. And that is regardless of who is right or wrong.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sorry but I do not agree with you completely. I have been a part of army operations and know that all possible 'encounters' with terrorist/smuggling operations are based on limited information, there is never absolute info/evidence. Based on these snippets decisions might be correct or they might be blunders. The army people can take a step back and play safe and not do anything, or they can take the call of duty, provided their intentions are good.
Rudra had enough evidence to stop and search a marriage party, remember shots were fired from the other side first and then the conflict became self defence. Once shooting starts from both sides, its very diff to find out who is innocent and who is not. So this serial in that sense is showing reality.
Now coming to Parvati, much worse happens to suspected terrorist/smugglers in armies across the world. It is completely against human rights but then should terrorists have human rights is a debatable question? Very thin lines get drawn when civilized world comes in touch with these realities. We know Parvanti is innocent, but does Rudra. I do agree that taking her home and all that drama was over the top, but hey this is called creative license.
I am sorry about the lenght of the post, but I am tired of judgments passed on Rudra's action. Real life on the borders is very different where morality and immorality often blur to the point of survival.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tingding

Sorry but I do not agree with you completely. I have been a part of army operations and know that all possible 'encounters' with terrorist/smuggling operations are based on limited information, there is never absolute info/evidence. Based on these snippets decisions might be correct or they might be blunders. The army people can take a step back and play safe and not do anything, or they can take the call of duty, provided their intentions are good.

Rudra had enough evidence to stop and search a marriage party, remember shots were fired from the other side first and then the conflict became self defence. Once shooting starts from both sides, its very diff to find out who is innocent and who is not. So this serial in that sense is showing reality.
Now coming to Parvati, much worse happens to suspected terrorist/smugglers in armies across the world. It is completely against human rights but then should terrorists have human rights is a debatable question? Very thin lines get drawn when civilized world comes in touch with these realities. We know Parvanti is innocent, but does Rudra. I do agree that taking her home and all that drama was over the top, but hey this is called creative license.
I am sorry about the lenght of the post, but I am tired of judgments passed on Rudra's action. Real life on the borders is very different where morality and immorality often blur to the point of survival.

Thank you for this insight..:)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tingding

Sorry but I do not agree with you completely. I have been a part of army operations and know that all possible 'encounters' with terrorist/smuggling operations are based on limited information, there is never absolute info/evidence. Based on these snippets decisions might be correct or they might be blunders. The army people can take a step back and play safe and not do anything, or they can take the call of duty, provided their intentions are good.

Rudra had enough evidence to stop and search a marriage party, remember shots were fired from the other side first and then the conflict became self defence. Once shooting starts from both sides, its very diff to find out who is innocent and who is not. So this serial in that sense is showing reality.
Now coming to Parvati, much worse happens to suspected terrorist/smugglers in armies across the world. It is completely against human rights but then should terrorists have human rights is a debatable question? Very thin lines get drawn when civilized world comes in touch with these realities. We know Parvanti is innocent, but does Rudra. I do agree that taking her home and all that drama was over the top, but hey this is called creative license.
I am sorry about the lenght of the post, but I am tired of judgments passed on Rudra's action. Real life on the borders is very different where morality and immorality often blur to the point of survival.

Well said my dear
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tingding

Sorry but I do not agree with you completely. I have been a part of army operations and know that all possible 'encounters' with terrorist/smuggling operations are based on limited information, there is never absolute info/evidence. Based on these snippets decisions might be correct or they might be blunders. The army people can take a step back and play safe and not do anything, or they can take the call of duty, provided their intentions are good.

Rudra had enough evidence to stop and search a marriage party, remember shots were fired from the other side first and then the conflict became self defence. Once shooting starts from both sides, its very diff to find out who is innocent and who is not. So this serial in that sense is showing reality.
Now coming to Parvati, much worse happens to suspected terrorist/smugglers in armies across the world. It is completely against human rights but then should terrorists have human rights is a debatable question? Very thin lines get drawn when civilized world comes in touch with these realities. We know Parvanti is innocent, but does Rudra. I do agree that taking her home and all that drama was over the top, but hey this is called creative license.
I am sorry about the lenght of the post, but I am tired of judgments passed on Rudra's action. Real life on the borders is very different where morality and immorality often blur to the point of survival.


I agree with you about most of your points, and said the same in my post above. Most of his actions can be termed as poor judgement and poor planning ... taking five men to stop a baraat he knew consisted of 30-40 men, being just one example ... killing off the groom's kaaka when the man was unarmed and begging for mercy being another ... the guy would have been a much better witness, for one thing ...
Rudra's bad luck ... he killed everyone, and took as witness, the only person who didn't know what was happening and is truly innocent ... bad luck or poor judgement again ... if he knew about the girls being sold into trafficking at the time, did he really think the girls would go willingly?

But like I said ... the inexcusable thing for me is the way he is forcing Paro to sign the papers - sign or marry me. They are not in a war situation, on the front, where time is of the essence. He is holding a witness in questionable custody ... he himself wavers as to whether she is innocent or not ... using force to make her sign is one thing ... but the alternative is that he will MARRY HER? I doubt any army would condone that kind of threat making.

Especially in situations where the army is stationed in hostile areas and has to win over the local population, this kind of action is hardly likely to inspire any confidence in the armed forces. The army, on the contrary, has to be doubly careful not to antagonise their witnesses ... they will need them in the future.
Edited by DiyaS - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tingding

Sorry but I do not agree with you completely. I have been a part of army operations and know that all possible 'encounters' with terrorist/smuggling operations are based on limited information, there is never absolute info/evidence. Based on these snippets decisions might be correct or they might be blunders. The army people can take a step back and play safe and not do anything, or they can take the call of duty, provided their intentions are good.

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Rudra had enough evidence to stop and search a marriage party, remember shots were fired from the other side first and then the conflict became self defence. Once shooting starts from both sides, its very diff to find out who is innocent and who is not. So this serial in that sense is showing reality.


Now coming to Parvati, much worse happens to suspected terrorist/smugglers in armies across the world. It is completely against human rights but thenshouldterrorists have human rights is a debatable question? Very thin lines get drawn when civilized world comes in touch with these realities. We know Parvanti is innocent, but does Rudra. I do agree that taking her home and all that drama was over the top, but hey this is called creative license.


<div>I am sorry about the lenght of the post, but I am tired of judgments passed on Rudra's action. Real life on the borders is very different where morality and immorality often blur to the point of survival.

Thanks for your insight. You threw light on a few things I was not clear about. So his actions do not warrant a court martial in reality? He disobeyed his senior didn't he? That has no implications in real life? I am unclear, so asking.
Yet his behavior towards her after bringing her home makes my heart break into pieces. Sexual intimidation & forcing marriage is wrong and hurts me as a woman. That really put me off. It's not just Rudra's actions but paro's too that are being judged since yesterday's episode. As long as we are not bashing and keep it healthy I am good.
Edited by LoveCC - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I don't agree with the first part your topic. I suggest you see the back episodes carefully. Baraat deserved that death, actually they needed much worse death.
Blaming Rudra is blaming a soldier who would do anything possible to protect his nation...its insult to those who protect us from terrorists...

On second part, I agree, Rudra's methods are questionable and crosses the limit of interrogation. Again, if Paro were to be a male suspect she would have got much worse treatment in the jail cell.


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