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Posted: 11 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Mandy
Jalal's dialogue "Jodha Begum ko hum dekh lenge LEKIN AGAR RUKAYYA BEGUM KO KUCH HUVA TO HUM TUMHE MAAR DENGE" - just took it all downhill for me from that point
So its ok what you did to Jodha BUT DON'T YOU DARE HARM MY RUKAYYA WAS HIS MEANING😔

It clearly showed that Rukayya is far more imortant to Jalal than Jodha,
How can HE KNOW WHY ZAKIRA IS NOT DEAD, FOR ALL HE KNOWS SHE ALSO COULD HAVE BECOME IMMUNE TO THE POISON

I did not see MUCH REAL concern by Jalal for Jodha,
No realisation that Rukayya got him to death's door BUT Jodha saved him

He needs to be TOLD by Adga Khan to go to Jodha, OTHERWISE HE WOULD HAVE RUSHED AFTER BEN TO SAVE RUKAYYA, Jalal did not give much thought to Jodha

I am saying all this becuase he is supposed to REALISE HIS LOVE FOR JODHA

When person loves in crisis they think of their loved ones first, CLEARLY HERE JALAL'S THOUGHTS ARE ON RUKAYYA MORE THAN JODHA



maddy, what i felt from the whole episode is that he is threatening ben that if something happens to ruq she will not be spared..jodha is being looked after by the hakim sahiba, maybe he is thinking that she will be saved by antidote..here one action is done..that is the harm is done to jodha..but the other harm can be prevented..that is ben can be stopped from taking ruq away..i think too many things were happening at the same time..when hakim sahiba will say that her life is in danger then he will breakdown..and all that will be shown..we just need to have some patience..everything cannot be shown in one episode..and if we think he does not care for jo then why he keeps thinking of her...!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: deejagi

Jalal was bewildered, he was astonished at the turn of events and nothing was registering in his mind. The ever teasing, smiling Jodha was unconscious. The eyes that were either spitting fire or spreading happiness were closed and floral breath was getting uneven and he could not think anything beyond that. He could not feel anything and he was NUMB towards what had happened to Jodha. His mind was not allowing him to think otherwise about Jodha and to overcome that jolt he talked non sense about Killing Ben or sparing Ben. He was not sure of the extent of damage the poison cause or might cause to Jodha but he had no strength to think the outcome, so he felt he along with the Hakim can take care of Jodha whereas Ruqaiya was held hostage and he knew very well the consequences of the fate of the hostage. Hence he barked at Ben to leave Ruqaiya and in turn he will spare her life only to be showed the Mirror by Ben about him and his Khas people.

Ben had her mirthless laugh saying, she would not have accepted the job of a Vishkanya, had she worried about her life. She clearly told everyone that she came to Agra with the purpose of killing jalal and would have succeeded long back had it not been for Jodha who posed obstacles in her progress. And today that ideate lady went a step ahead and sacrificed her life to save such an husband who never cared for her. Ruqaiya wanted to show Jodha low and to do that she grabbed the opportunity to get Ben married to Jalal and the great Wazir, Maham lend hands to her in the process of demeaning Jodha. How irenic it was, the one who really knew about me and wanted to save her husband was berated while the one who was planned the assassin was given the highest respect and facilities. Only then did Adham Khan felt the need to kill Ben, and he could visualize his death by Jalal otherwise. The time froze as Maham started visualizing her failures in recognizing Ben and the impact of her failure. Jalal was dazed, he could not think what he should do or what he should think. Then the elderly Atgah Khan asks him to take care of Jodha while he will go behind Ben to bring back Ruqaiya safely.

Jalal enters into the room where Jodha was lying lifelessly and the face started losing colour, rather turning Bluish due to poison effect. He could not think of that something bad might happen to Jodha, so tries to divert his mind and screams for Abul Mali's head and only to realize that he has already flew out of the net. He was drawn to the ground reality of his kingdom or ruling where intelligence / security and defense was utter failure and the silent Maham understood the reality. She have to act now if she has to regain his confidence and also has to act fast to save Jodha, otherwise Jalal will not stay as Jalal and everyone will have to go through the brunt of the aftermath. She can't stay aloof when the queen is dying (wheter she likes her or not) and she would have already gauged who was responsible for the security break. She will act fast and she might compel Zakira to spill the bean about the antidote in the final / crucial moment and there by showing her loyalty to Sultnate.

Jaya, it is hard for me to excuse Jalal as "numbed" and "not sure of the extent of damage of the poison" or trying to "divert his mind" seeing the bluish Jodha, or even "waiting for Atga to tell him to go to Jodha" rather than Ruq.
I cannot excuse Jalal for such things, in fact, even if he was an ordinary man ... I would forgive him for this much less because he is supposed to be an astute emperor with the knack of identifying the right priorities.
But still at least as you say Ben gave him some reality checks! And today's episode will hopefully show him what are his immediate priorities!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: Abie10

Mansi couldn't agree more. The episode was a huge disappointment because we had so much expectations. Why on earth did CVs show so much in one episode ? They showed so much that Jalal's concern and attention got divided. Why couldn't Jodha alone be the focus because after all she pledged to all believe that Ben is poison girl but no one believed. All insulted and belittled her including Jalal.šŸ˜•


The only truth came from Ben yesterday. All words she told Maham, Ruq and Jalal was spot on. She's right saying Jodha is a fool risking her own life for a husband who doesn't care about her.😔

And can Jalal stop blaming Abul Mali for once and reflect to his own actions? The only saving grace was the precap.

Yes whole of last week they were meandering with time pass scenes, and then suddenly in the one king-sized scene they rush everything and divide Jalal's attention!Ouch
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek



Make a separate post for this. This is perfect take..!



i agree abhayšŸ‘šŸ¼
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: riyya6

mansi šŸ˜³šŸ¤—

ur post : šŸ‘šŸ¼...

Thanks Riyya!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: devica

I was satisfied with Jodha part.

Since Jalal is a shahenshah, sometimes he has to give priority to important happenings Before his private life. But I did not like his ruk dialogue. Infact the whole ruk kidnap drama was unnecessary.

I also thought the Ruq abduction did not do great things for the script!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#97

Originally posted by: skanda12

I also thought the Ruq abduction did not do great things for the script!



mansi,
just now got a PM..Is this also written in history..??..šŸ˜•.šŸ˜•.šŸ˜•.šŸ˜•.šŸ˜†. (pata nahi)
But, itna zaroor pata hai Jodha Begum was involved..here..!!..IN a great manner..!..

History lessons ke side effects..!!šŸ˜†

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Posted: 11 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: mandyg



i agree that jodha was on death bed, u tell me what would u do in his position..ur one wife is dying..zillion things happening at the same time..u being an emperor need to control the situation..jo being taken care by hakim sahiba, an immediate step taken by jalal..now the other wife being kidnapped in front of his eyes..do u think he should have left her and run away to see jodha..akdha helped him in this situation thank u to him..and then he immediately went to see jo after akdha left to take care of ruq..now whats wrong with that?..i think mansi there is no end to negativity and finding faults..i used to love reading ur positive posts..i miss that mansi..take care😊

šŸ‘šŸ¼ i liked the fact that episode had a reality touch.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi. I also felt a disconnect. They tried to show too many things at one go,instead of concentrating on Jalal and Jodha. Ruku (Audheiwali) looked like a clown when she pleaded with Ben to let her go.


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: mandyg



i agree that jodha was on death bed, u tell me what would u do in his position..ur one wife is dying..zillion things happening at the same time..u being an emperor need to control the situation..jo being taken care by hakim sahiba, an immediate step taken by jalal..now the other wife being kidnapped in front of his eyes..do u think he should have left her and run away to see jodha..akdha helped him in this situation thank u to him..and then he immediately went to see jo after akdha left to take care of ruq..now whats wrong with that?..i think mansi there is no end to negativity and finding faults..i used to love reading ur positive posts..i miss that mansi..take care😊

Mandy, if you are in a senior level (eg. emperor) and have gazillion things going on at the same time you have to use the art of delegation. Just as the hakim was sued for taking care of Jodha, Atga has to be deployed to take care of Ruq. The king cannot be running after Ben himself, he has to stay at the helm of affairs, and not feel helter-skelter. He cannot be having to choose between one wigfe and another he has to save both. And he has the job of seiing which is more urgent so that his own priorities are right. That part of the job!
Accha, as regards "finding faults" in my posts, I hear that mostly from the "Jalal lovers" gangs rather than the Jodha lovers gangs - probably because the former are larger in number?Whenever I criticise some actions of Jalal, I get asked why I am being "not positive" but I never get asked the same question as much when I criticise Jodha ... how is that?
To tell you the truth, I do not claim at all to be "positive" just by always saying nice things only and avoiding being the authentic me! I stay true to how I feel and say it, but I make sure I am even handed about both Jodha and Jalal. I like them both equally and when they do something I like I say so ... and when they do something I don;'t like I say so too. I only steer clear of being unbalanced. and supporting only jalal at the cost of Jodha or vice versa.
My posts will be good to read only if you like to hear both good and bad about Jodha and Jalal, not because I am always writing only the so-called positive (ie. nice things only) about both of them or just one of them. I want to be balanced and fair, not positive or negative!
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