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Posted: 11 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: surjyotapa


I was observing jalal's expressions during ruk-jo scene ... he was mockingly

staring at jodha first .. then when ruk started with her begum-e-khas, etc.

mentioning that when she speaks no one dare to interfere, not even

shahensha ... jalal's smile fades and he keeps on staring at ruk ... finally

when jodha left ... he was unhappy (superb acting by Rajat)! as if jo took away

everything with her, even the feeling of that wound, he was not interested in

that lep anymore .. he had nothing left with him ... he was very very hurt and

sad. He wanted jo to speak a few word for herself, wanted to hear her saying

that she too has a right on jalal as she is his begum too! .. but when she left

saying nothing jalal was left only with nothingness. Nowadays he is busy

understanding this moving puzzle, his jodha begum, so everything is left

unnoticed and ben is slithering happily in and outside Agra palace ... His

condition is pathetic, neither he can go back to his earlier self where he was

happy in a way, knowing nothing about loving and caring , when he used to

get pleasure hurting jodha,nor he could get that love and care what his heart

is waiting for. Rajat is superb in portraying this helpless Jalal ... don't have

enough words to praise him.

Mansi I love reading your update. I always find something new in the episode

after reading your POV. Thank you so much for that.

My English is not very good so cannot word my observations properly, that's

why I rarely comment. Yesterday's episode was a total waste, but only jalal's

change of expressions through the whole ruk's insult scene forced me to

write down something ... a lot of people are not happy with Jalal yesterday,

but I was not angry after watching jo-ruk-jalal scene in fact was crying for

jalal. This man is bleeding inside, even jo knows that. He wants to hurt jo

ends up hurting himself, he wants to insult jo, but afterwards that very act

gives him sleepless night ... throughout the ben track only thing I was

watching is jalal's situation, the helplessness of an emperor. Jodha with her

one act took away his pride, ego, even his logical thinking ... he has no

explanation for the hold she has over him, he is not happy with this fact . ..

jodha is his only weakness ... let's see how he turns this weakness into his

power. For Jalal (Rajat) I can forget all the bitterness of ben track.


I completely agree with each word of yours. Very well written.👏 I felt bad at Jodha's insult but even jalal was not happy. As u said his suddenly changed expressions said everything.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: AbHer_neha

Thanks for the lovely update Mansi. Although I enjoyed few moments yesterday's episode - Moti's dialogue, HB-Salima conversation...and I though we would be able to see their love story after this track but as u said I also feel CVs are showing us a lollypop. 😕


Ye show ek aisa laddu ban gaya hai jo na toh nigalte banta hai aur na ugalte.😆

Very nicely summed up the situation. What kind of laddoo show is this which we are addicted to? Hamere dimaag ke haalath aisa hai ki hum is "crap" ko bardaash kar rahe hain!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Surjyotapa, I really liked your take on the scene, which made all Jodha fans feel bad

Just one observation though

Jalal taunts Jodha when Rukayya snatches the lep from Jodha's hand saying I know your concern for my well being is genuine not dhakosala (meaning Jodha's conern was dhakosala)

After this line when Rukayya goes on and on about B-e-K even Jalal dare not interrupt, Rukayya WAS SPEAKING on behalf of Jalal.
Since he did not contradict her or correct her - even a simple line without telling Rukayya off that let Jodha Begum put on lep would have made a world of difeerence to Jodha.

Jalal did not contradict Rukayya and when Jodha looks at him expectantly he does nothing so HOW CAN Jodha say I am his Begum too and all that. Jodha can only fight for Jalal when SHE KNOWS his feelings for her
Till then she cannot assert any rights on him especially with Rukayya

I made this point earlier too, Jalal always gives RESPECT to RUK & MA but not to Jodha, letting anybody insult her is case in point. I feel if Jalal cannot TRUST Jodha easily - that has to be earned is ok, he has known MA & Ruk far more.
BUT RESPECT SHOULD BE ACCORDED TO JODHA BY EVERYBODY FOR BEING HIS BEGUM AND SHOULD BE AUTOMATIC and JALAL should make sure of that.

I wish they show a scene sometime later when this Ben track is over, if EVER Ruk & MA talk about what kind of wife Jo is or insult her JODHA SHOULD SAY SHE DOES NOT LIKE TO DISCUSS HER RELATIONSHIP WITH HER HUSBAND WITH OTHERS If Jalal CHOSES to do so that is upto him. Jodha DOES NOT OWE ANY EXPLANATIONS to them and SHE WOULD NEVER DISCUSS HER RELATIONSHIP with her HUSBAND with them

That should show Jalal how he JUST does not do that



I am not saying what jalal did was right, he started all thinking that he might enjoy jodha's insult. He was boiling inside with the thought that if she does not love him, then why is she so concerned! This particular question is haunting him these days, he is doing everything to get the answer.
My point is what actually happened when jodha left ... the only feeling left with him was deep hurt, which was much more painful than that small cut in his hand. He totally ignored Ruku and her lep just like benazeer.
If he was the old jalal he would have sent her back to amer or give her some punishment after that night. He had enough reasons for that, but he could not do anything other than foolish attempt to make her jealous.
I don't think even that letter is not enough to heal his wound now, only an act of love from jodha can heal him completely ... perhaps that is what we are going to watch. After Ben leaves, probably we will thank her for bringing this two 'pagal premee' closer. After all she will be the reason, for another much required 'dhakka' to bring them out of this situation.

blue part .. I completely agree with you.
Another thing I did not like was the way jalal shared 'that' night's experience with Rukaiyya .. he should learn that he Rukaiyya is taunting Jodha because he gave her that right by sharing everything.




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Posted: 11 years ago
#94
Jaya and Mansi,

Irony is our jalal who always relies on his Grey matter and admires Ruku for having same trait, can not distinguish between his coterie of loyal (unfaithful) friends and relatives where as Abu Mali has a Meera Bai😉 ( Benazir) ready to sacrifice her life! Unfair!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: surjyotapa


I am not saying what jalal did was right, he started all thinking that he might enjoy jodha's insult. He was boiling inside with the thought that if she does not love him, then why is she so concerned! This particular question is haunting him these days, he is doing everything to get the answer.
My point is what actually happened when jodha left ... the only feeling left with him was deep hurt, which was much more painful than that small cut in his hand. He totally ignored Ruku and her lep just like benazeer.
If he was the old jalal he would have sent her back to amer or give her some punishment after that night. He had enough reasons for that, but he could not do anything other than foolish attempt to make her jealous.
I don't think even that letter is not enough to heal his wound now, only an act of love from jodha can heal him completely ... perhaps that is what we are going to watch. After Ben leaves, probably we will thank her for bringing this two 'pagal premee' closer. After all she will be the reason, for another much required 'dhakka' to bring them out of this situation.

blue part .. I completely agree with you.
Another thing I did not like was the way jalal shared 'that' night's experience with Rukaiyya .. he should learn that he Rukaiyya is taunting Jodha because he gave her that right by sharing everything.



Suryotapa I can't understand how JO could demand to Ruqu that she too Jalaal's wife, as the same Ruqu & Jalaal has questioned when she behaved as been a wife to him infront of DEK.. So silent & looking at Jalaal for support is understandable & she very well knows she can't fight with Ruqu especailly the person she is fighting is silent feels herself (JO) unworthy as a wife..

When JO left I could see Jalaal feeling bad & didn't care when Ruqu apply lape.. Also Ruqu wanted to apply lape only to show Jodha that she is still not a wife & also she is the khass begum which Jalaal would also listen..

I still want JJ individually realise their love, neither HM, moti, salima can give their views, but when both will realise it's love then only they can face evil forces together... But more than love, I want JJ should have faith & understanding which is missing in their relation..

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