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Posted: 8 years ago
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This show is about spirituality at it's base. But, I guess the makers might have not received the whole concept of spirituality correctly. Spirituality is about nature. Discovering, exploring, seeking truth and somewhere in between there is logic which is must in everything. They have kinda connected spirituality with just God. Naren's all answers seem to be just revolve around God and nothing else.
Concept of God is a part of spirituality not the whole of it.

But nevertheless, I expected to receive a satisfactory answer as to where to find God and about God's existence. But it's disappointing to see what they chose. In rituals? Really? The only logical thing about Naren's thinking is that he believes in liberation. He doesn't believes in all the restrictions and illogical rules people build themselves and then get trapped in those for the whole if their lives.
Cause it's senseless and most importantly, it's UNNATURAL, against nature in every way.
Okay, how do people from other religions countries should find God then? They don't have pheras, vermillion, varnmalas and other rituals. But even they exist because of God, right? Or are they being manufactured by a different God? Or maybe there are different Gods for every different group of people. Cause every person doesn't have same customs.
And then what about animals, don't they need God?. Are they not made by God?
They don't have any religion. They don't have any God.

I'd have appreciated if they had even just shown that it's all about belief. That, God exists for those who believe and not for those who don't. Nobody's right and nobody's wrong. It's all about what you believe, your mindset.
You know like a child believes in Santa Clause. There's no proof needed. Nothing. But still, it can be the most beautiful thing for a child. He does everything to be a good kid to receive a present from Santa. Then, it doesn't matter if he really exists in the dimension of world or not but, it does exist for that child cause anyhow it did effect that child.

Or if they indeed wanted to go with the idea of finding God, they could've shown it in real natural way. Like, maybe God exists in a birth of a child. It's the most beautiful thing and a miracle of life. Or God exists in simple thing of life, like food, water which have the strength to keep a person alive. Or God exists in beauty, God exists in people themselves, in every atom and proton and neutron and electron, in humanity or simply God exists in belief.

Disappointed, if they chose spirituality as the base, they should have had some idea about the concept and not just show which is obvious to a common man.

But then, the word logic doesn't seem to exist in the dictionary of Indian TV.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I like what you said... I agree with almost all your points... Lets see how they unfold and justify Naren seeing God in Pooja's eyes! 😕 I m kind of stuck at this point actually. I had hoped they would bring out the point that God is in the heart...God is in love...God is in everything...not just shadi k rituals...😕 Also i dont know why an "almost applied" sindoor issue is such a big deal... 😕 i watched that scene thrice to make sure that sindoor was NOT applied!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree with you both points . God exits in every minute thing in the world . waiting to see how they end this track
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Posted: 8 years ago
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They ends like dat naren found god in pooja...will guruji belive naren?? Family members will believe him god knows. Bt i like jalte diye music in yesterday's scene..that was making scene more beautiful... bt how come naren know that where to fill this so called' red colour' gudiya ko tikka lagana aata hai.
.when he found god in pooja toh uski bhi pooja kr leta tika lagake like god ki krte hai sab...why he was filling maang of pooja...precap mein he is doing so..he realise his mistake.

Scared of mami's rishta for pooja now...pooja has to follow her mamaji promise now
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They ends like dat naren found god in pooja...will guruji belive naren?? Family members will believe him god knows. Bt i like jalte diye music in yesterday's scene..that was making scene more beautiful... bt how come naren know that where to fill this so called' red colour' gudiya ko tikka lagana aata hai.
.when he found god in pooja toh uski bhi pooja kr leta tika lagake like god ki krte hai sab...why he was filling maang of pooja...precap mein he is doing so..he realise his mistake.
Scared of mami's rishta for pooja now...pooja has to follow her mamaji promise now

I too loved diye jalte hain BG . pooja should follow mamaji's promise about marriage that mami ki pasand ki ladke se shaadi karegi and Naren should follow Harish's contract that harish ki pasand ki ladki ke saath shaadi karega . both won't happen it happens than how come Naren and Pooja love story happen .
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Posted: 8 years ago
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She has to follow...nd agree for mrg...then she reliase her love for naren...naren will also feel love during this mrg talks of pooja...but then kiara comes...lolz
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I don't even know where to begin my complaints with the show😆. I haven't expected such juvenile explanations to genuine questions...


Let me start from their angle, they chose Hindu Shaadi. Okay. Have they tried to explain themselves better in that at least? I am amazed how they laid emphasis on the 'process' , 'rituals' part of it alone... They are just symbolisms to something MORE meaningful. From what I've read or heard, it's not the processes involved in the wedding that is of importance but the vedic chants, the vows taken and use of elements of nature like fire, water that gives sanctity to marriage.

And what did they show here? They haven't even explained themselves well enough... Pooja going all " SHAYAD in varmala there is eeshwar", "SHAYAD in ghatbandhan there is eshwar who unite people " ... What Shayad, shayad? At least explain the IMPORTANCE of these things?!

I completely understand the importance of rituals. They are symbolism to a person's beliefs... But at least KNOW what they stand for? What is the SIGNIFICANCE of a particular ritual. Has Pooja even explained significance at all?

And all the big deal about sindoor. In NO marriage, be it north, south, east or west Indian does sindoor signify getting married... It's all serial tripe. Sindoor is JUST a symbol, a signpost that you are married. It's the Pheras, muhurat that define marriage...

Phere coz you a are taking vows in presence of people and nature (fire) that you'll respect this union. And THAT is the common factor in every religion... They give utmost importance to the SPOKEN WORD, the VOW of marriage... How did this simple thing escape the writers?


@combining God and Spirituality you mentioned - I am deadly confused.😕 All through initial episodes they haven't laid emphasis on God factor of spirituality. I've quite liked that... We've even seen Naren telling his Mom/Pooja that " He doesn't understand their kanhaiya and his leela" during rangali episodes... He believes in God/Supreme power but might not be in the conventional sense... THAT was refreshing... But what is happening now? Does he still maintain that stand or it's all muddled up in head as well like ours?


I can only say that they tried have shamelessly chickened out of tackling the questions they made Naren ask as they might not be 'safe' answers.

They spectacularly failed at explaining their POV through Pooja properly. There is NO conviction in their explanation, it's half-baked and half-hearted.

Whether we agree or not, if the writers believed to find God in marriage rituals they should've EXPLAINED their stand better. WHY they are so supreme in their eyes. Agreed or not, we would've at least left it as other POV... Here we've got NOTHING.


@Spirituality : I think it is universal. Humanity, Compassion, Affection... Universal emotions despite of your religious inclinations. Follow any path or means, you ultimately reach certain postulates. Even I've expected they'd take such a route that whatever they make Naren question and get his answers in will have some universal appeal to it...

You know like the Panchatantra stories or even Aespos' tales? They have no religious tones or rituals, they are just stories on morals and ethics... Which have universal appeal...
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Originally posted by: drummedup



I don't even know where to begin my complaints with the show😆. I haven't expected such juvenile explanations to genuine questions...


Let me start from their angle, they chose Hindu Shaadi. Okay. Have they tried to explain themselves better in that at least? I am amazed how they laid emphasis on the 'process' , 'rituals' part of it alone... They are just symbolisms to something MORE meaningful. From what I've read or heard, it's not the processes involved in the wedding that is of importance but the vedic chants, the vows taken and use of elements of nature like fire, water that gives sanctity to marriage.

And what did they show here? They haven't even explained themselves well enough... Pooja going all " SHAYAD in varmala there is eeshwar", "SHAYAD in ghatbandhan there is eshwar who unite people " ... What Shayad, shayad? At least explain the IMPORTANCE of these things?!

I completely understand the importance of rituals. They are symbolism to a person's beliefs... But at least KNOW what they stand for? What is the SIGNIFICANCE of a particular ritual. Has Pooja even explained significance at all?

And all the big deal about sindoor. In NO marriage, be it north, south, east or west Indian does sindoor signify getting married... It's all serial tripe. Sindoor is JUST a symbol, a signpost that you are married. It's the Pheras, muhurat that define marriage...

Phere coz you a are taking vows in presence of people and nature (fire) that you'll respect this union. And THAT is the common factor in every religion... They give utmost importance to the SPOKEN WORD, the VOW of marriage... How did this simple thing escape the writers?


@combining God and Spirituality you mentioned - I am deadly confused.😕 All through initial episodes they haven't laid emphasis on God factor of spirituality. I've quite liked that... We've even seen Naren telling his Mom/Pooja that " He doesn't understand their kanhaiya and his leela" during rangali episodes... He believes in God/Supreme power but might not be in the conventional sense... THAT was refreshing... But what is happening now? Does he still maintain that stand or it's all muddled up in head as well like ours?


I can only say that they tried have shamelessly chickened out of tackling the questions they made Naren ask as they might not be 'safe' answers.

They spectacularly failed at explaining their POV through Pooja properly. There is NO conviction in their explanation, it's half-baked and half-hearted.

Whether we agree or not, if the writers believed to find God in marriage rituals they should've EXPLAINED their stand better. WHY they are so supreme in their eyes. Agreed or not, we would've at least left it as other POV... Here we've got NOTHING.


@Spirituality : I think it is universal. Humanity, Compassion, Affection... Universal emotions despite of your religious inclinations. Follow any path or means, you ultimately reach certain postulates. Even I've expected they'd take such a route that whatever they make Naren question and get his answers in will have some universal appeal to it...

You know like the Panchatantra stories or even Aespos' tales? They have no religious tones or rituals, they are just stories on morals and ethics... Which have universal appeal...

Very well said!!! 👏 God is the foundation of everything, including Spirituality. But everyone has a different view point. Like for me God is one and the almighty, the ultimate power, the highest order, the divine existence and He is present in my heart and soul and in everything else around me. Other people may have some other p.o.v. I am disappointed too how Naren's p.o.v.is being twisted now. I mean it feels as if he was knowing the depth already, but now hes just focussing on the superficial things and aspects.
Sad... I hope they do show some logical explanation in the coming episodes.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Actually I am sorry, if I managed to somewhat offend someone regarding my views on God and spirituality. But ultimately, I just meant the obvious. At last, all I wanted to convey is that it's all about belief. Infact I highly believe in the phrase that, "It's all in the mind". That's why I gave the example of Santa xD. Anything exists for those who believe and not for those who don't. Anything which effects you, exists.

So, there can be endless arguments over God, spirituality and many things but I think no one can deny that at the end of the day, it's all about belief.
So, that's why, one thing I'd like to know is that why Naren even wants to find God. If he's such a spiritual person, and he believes in God, does he think that God is something solid, something definite? That he can just find and feel his presence. I think he should understand the obvious that if he believes in him, he can only find him internally, within himself not through some external source.
Drinking juice of leaves, really? It didn't show his innocence or even extreme dedication to find God but simply stupidity. Does he think of God as an object?

Anyway, I am happy that today they didn't ultimately choose the rituals as the way to find God, but he found it the eyes of a human. Not satisfactory but okay better xD
And also, Pooja somewhat realized her mistake, that overreaction was not at all needed. Amazing how conveniently CV's can completely compromise logic for the sake of their plot. Just to make Naren find God in Pooja's eyes, they did all that.
Indeed they write half heartedly.


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Actually I am sorry, if I managed to somewhat offend someone regarding my views on God and spirituality. But ultimately, I just meant the obvious. At last, all I wanted to convey is that it's all about belief. Infact I highly believe in the phrase that, "It's all in the mind". That's why I gave the example of Santa xD. Anything exists for those who believe and not for those who don't. Anything which effects you, exists.
Ohh dear, but you are right and its your point of view which should be respected by all.. 😊

So, there can be endless arguments over God, spirituality and many things but I think no one can deny that at the end of the day, it's all about belief.
So, that's why, one thing I'd like to know is that why Naren even wants to find God. If he's such a spiritual person, and he believes in God, does he think that God is something solid, something definite? That he can just find and feel his presence. I think he should understand the obvious that if he believes in him, he can only find him internally, within himself not through some external source.
Drinking juice of leaves, really? It didn't show his innocence or even extreme dedication to find God but simply stupidity. Does he think of God as an object?
Lol! My thoughts exactly! 😃

Havent watched today's episode. Will sure come back with my 2 cents after watching it... 😛

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