Reasons & Condition (Aditya-Sugni)

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Firstly need to say this before i start the main thing i want to say lol - I honestly dont understand TVS's love... his outlook to love is bordering forcement and going over the limit in wanting to keep her to himself like an object... watch over her and be near her.
Seems to me both Aditya and Sugni are parrellaling with their reasons to where they stand today and the conditions they have laid for themselves and everyone else...
From Sugni's end - Sugni's pov is hard to explain, coz i can see how her brain is thinking (most would say she isnt thinking at all but she is lol) and working, but its hard to explain lol, i can see she wants to be out of his life, so him and Reva can atleast have an marriage and lead a life together, and thinks it doesnt matter if she lives a life that is lifeless and whatever her fate is, as long as she just wants to be away and keep TVS and Reva intact and out of his life (but fate has given her Adi and to be near his family lol) . And today her behaviour was like, i need to be marked by my owner - fulfil his purchase and what i am purchased for, so i can feel something else other then her broken heart and what TVS did to her and also to be someone's else through physicalness... etc. She's also aware that what she is today - a mistress, and also for her... Amrita will be Adi's wife... (judging by how she stopped Adi putting sindoor on her) that how she sees the position and situation with herself with Adi and Amrita
I understand Adi's pov - why he did the sardarkai (and no i dont find him selfish, if Adi was selfish and bad, then he would of let any man take her so she would be out of all their lives, but he came and tried to talk sense into her and so on etc) , and the conditon he put on his mamaji, rightly so - if TVS wants Sugni, then he needs to get Reva well and then divorce her, and then him and Sugni can be one... how much more sense can that make, it is an right direction to take if TVS wants a chance with Sugni again. So yes Adi has it done for 3 ppl and 3 reasons -
1) Save Sugni, because lets face it - these men were just going to fulfill their needs and enjoyment and then probably toss her aside, and Sugni would rather have anyone else then have TVS do her sardhakai
2) For his Mami and her marriage- maybe to keep his Mama away from Sugni but i dont think thats entirely true or is true
3) For TVS, as i said the conditon he laid out to TVS, on what he needs to do beforehand with Reva and his marriage, so yeah i think the reason no2 and no3 connects together.
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DJ.. thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Wonderfully written post Lennie Kudos to you 👏

You have rightly pointed out that Sugni is thinking. Unfortunately in midst of all her strategy making to keep herself away from all she has forgotten to give due to her mother. But if you go to see she is punishing herself for hurting her mother for TVS. Yet her action would have broken her mother if it would have been for Aditya.

As for your TVS 'love' there is a lot there which is anything but love

I was just gonna reply to Reshu's post regarding TVS will copy paste it later here if you it fits here
Edited by DJ.. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: DJ..

Wonderfully written post Lennie Kudos to you 👏 Thanks DJ, it means alot to hear from you, like to read more thoughts, I sometimes think i am second guessing to see how the show and story is going coz of many ppl sorry to say are not liking A/S (which to me is interesting, as i said in my other topic) and TVS gets all the kudos lol... when he has done wrong, (wrong is the only word i can think of (is there anyother word???) right now to connect to him in this whole marriage/Reva business and even now to his thinking of love)

You have rightly pointed out that Sugni is thinking. Unfortunately in midst of all her strategy making to keep herself away from all she has forgotten to give due to her mother. But if you go to see she is punishing herself for hurting her mother for TVS. Yet her action would have broken her mother if it would have been for Aditya.
Sugni is thinking, coz half of the things she is doing today and going ahead with this sardhadkai is her way of thinking (i wouldnt call it careless, coz from her mind, she kinda thinks she knows what she is doing and what life sentense she is giving herself) to distance herself from TVS and thinking of Reva-TVS marriage, doesnt want to interfere in that, and as you say she also wants to hurt herself, i sometimes think she wants to override/overshadow the pain TVS gave her, to the pain and hurt she wants to install on herself, with going ahead with the sardhadkai, being an mistress, everything she dislikes she has become in that one moment, when she put herself up there... even today lets fulfill this purchase to Adi

As for your TVS 'love' there is a lot there which is anything but love
Honestly, i have been seeing this and asking if this is love... coz how i see love, its not what TVS's thinking is being like or his actions esp his words.

I was just gonna reply to Reshu's post regarding TVS will copy paste it later here if you it fits here

Please do or let me know wherever you reply to her post (by the way where is it lol), as i said would love to hear from you, its been ages

Edited by Lennie - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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lol Lennie you should know where my post can be😆 its in the safest place on IF for me😆

waise agree with everything you said 😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -x-Reshu-x-

lol Lennie you should know where my post can be😆 its in the safest place on IF for me😆 Aha - i know now 👍🏼... as you say the safest place lol

waise agree with everything you said 😛 Thanks

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Def agree- there are multiple sides to this story- and multiple facets to these characters- for my part I do not see any love in TVS at this point, maybe there is maybe there isn't but I don't see it. I happen to be intrigued by Adi/Sugni, that track interests me much more then TVS and Sugni for sure, I suppose I will just have to wait and see how this plays out though...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Lennie I understand Sugni's and Adi's POV as set out in your post.

I also understand your summation of TVSs position. There in lies my problem. TVS would not behave in this way.The character is being butchered to make him evil.

I still maintain that what is needed is a good conversation/fight between TVS and Sungi in which they can vent their anger, hurt, pain and after a humbling apology

- she tells him that she does not to be the reason he leavesReva

- he needs to tell her that he only found about Reva only a month before the wedding as currently she thinks Reva was around for whole of their romance, that he will divorce but safeguard Reva regardless of whether they have a future together or not so not do anything that would hurt herself as it would be for nothing and that if she still wants to leave he will accept her decision.

I think only the reappearance of Amu who has not been involved in all this so can call a spade a spade could acheive this.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Lennie
For his Mami and her marriage- maybe to keep his Mama away from Sugni but i dont think thats entirely true or is true
This point that TAS wants to keep sugni away from Mamiji is very true. TAS did not care if sugni's sardhakai was happening ..he tried stopping by asking her to leave and he did mention to G that your daughter is responsible for this. Only when TVS came there and started bidding ...TAS decided to step in in order to save Mamiji...
Todays episode shows his ulterior motives.
TAS has been playing with sugn's emotions telling her that he wants to save Mamaji's wedding and she should support him in this...so sugni tries to go more and more away from TVS and tries to humilate herslf thinking she is the cause of TVS-Reva rift.
TAS has not once explained her why TVS did what he did and they all athought Reva was dead...he hasnt told her that Reva is mentally not well..
Today he was ready to sleep with her ...and wanted to justify by putting sindoor on her !!!!
He is backstabbing TVS totally and playing with sugn's gulity feelings and using her to show TVS that sugni doesnt love him
TAS does not care about sugni ...but I amazed that he was ready to back stab his Father like Mamaji ...what about injustice he has done to Amu ????
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Posted: 13 years ago
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okay my first time venturing into the forum- and its i can see that the general consensus is against adi-sugni pair...

i just watched the episode - and u described sugni's state of mind perfectly - she want a distraction - something that will cause her even more pain than a heart-break...

and i see adi in the same light as you (long live the minority 😆 ) - his motives were not self-ish - he did this for his mama-mami - i know they explained TVS to be a fatherly figure to him - then his mami must have also been a vital part of his life (tho i havent seen them explain that) ... so protecting their relationship after seeing his parents fall apart is well within his character..

and as for TVS - i dont get his love at all - he just seems to want her at any cost ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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An awesome post and it makes sense. 👏
What you have written about Sugni is what I felt from her today. I also think that Sugni, growing up among bedni's came to hate their life. She is using that very hate to forget her love. Maybe her love was so intense that she feels she needs to have intense hate to make her forget the love she had for the man. Hence her decision and it makes sense though I do not say it is right.
I think Sugni also understands TVS obsession for obsession it is.. His love has overflown into an obsession to attain Sugni at all cost. His character, I guess was supposed to be this grey for compare this obsession and calculation to the initial episodes.. TVS was the calculating, bordering to cunning man who called a spade a spade and would resort to anything to have what he has in mind fulfilled. Is this the same TVS. Yes with added shades of black to make him the villain.

Not sure how far Adi understands all this. He worships his mama but it looks like he wants his mami to have a chance with his mama. Not sure of his motive or what drives him to do that, but he is certainly not selfish. He hated Bednis and for him to help one and also try to protect her (I know the conversation with TVS and his vachan but I think TAS said what he had to at that time to save Sugni and convince TVS...)

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