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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: znursingh


PLEASE CHECK! I'm NOT the first to use the term on this thread-unfortunately, I WAS the last!
As a Sardarni,I have NO problem with the term Surds or with the profusion of Surd jokes!

If Bengalis are offended at being called Bongs I apologize but maybe every body needs to lighten up and get over parochial over sensitiveness-I've heard Derek O'Brian refer to "the Bong Bhadra lok mentality" in the most scathing tones on National TV and he is a Bong-SORRY BENGALI-himself!

Znursingh and Kalapi I meant no offence with my question. Znursing I know that you are not the only one who used the term. My first sentence indicates that I have seen the term being used often. Let me clarify not just on this forum but also on television and radio. It was in this context that I ask the question honestly and openly. I do not wish to offend anyone with my question. If the question is offensive my humblest apologies.
Kalapi, if it is an acceptable term to describe a group of people and causes no offence then please keep using it. As I said earlier, I asked the question honestly and do not wish to start a debate on what is appropriate for this forum or not. I'll leave that to the mods. Again if I caused offence with an honest question, my apologies.
Edited by Sakhile - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Hilly,

The last para is spot on, and that is exactly what puzzled me as well.

Forget about acting like a married man, any sensible male of the species with a jealous spouse would be very wary of being caught in such a situation. He knows that Ovi is going to land up any moment, and yet the idiot is practically ensuring the mother of all blow ups by confabulating with the one woman sure to make his wife see red?

And what of Purvi? She believes that Punni was forced to do all this by some unknown element? After all her past experience of Punni?

The CVs must take the whole viewership for inattentive fools, or they have themselves lost their marbles.

Shyamala

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Posted: 12 years ago
Znursingh and Kalapi I meant no offence with my question. Znursing I know that you are not the only one who used the term. My first sentence indicates that I have seen the term being used often. Let me clarify not just on this forum but also on television and radio. It was in this context that I ask the question honestly and openly. I do not wish to offend anyone with my question. If the question is offensive my humblest apologies.
Kalapi, if it is an acceptable term to describe a group of people and causes no offence then please keep using it. As I said earlier, I asked the question honestly and do not wish to start a debate on what is appropriate for this forum or not. I'll leave that to the mods. Again if I caused offence with an honest question, my apologies.

ARREY! My language skills seem to desert me when I reply to posts of people whose posts I generally like-minor aberration caused by rapidly approaching senility!

I REALLY thought I was EXPLAINING that friendly, colloquial slang terms like Bongs,Surds, Punjus,Gujjus ARE generally acceptable in India-at IF WHO KNOWS?!

PS=I didn't take offence and hope I didn't give any inadvertently!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Sakhile

Znursingh and Kalapi I meant no offence with my question. Znursing I know that you are not the only one who used the term. My first sentence indicates that I have seen the term being used often. Let me clarify not just on this forum but also on television and radio. It was in this context that I ask the question honestly and openly. I do not wish to offend anyone with my question. If the question is offensive my humblest apologies.

Kalapi, if it is an acceptable term to describe a group of people and causes no offence then please keep using it. As I said earlier, I asked the question honestly and do not wish to start a debate on what is appropriate for this forum or not. I'll leave that to the mods. Again if I caused offence with an honest question, my apologies.

Absolutely, none taken at all 😃, rest assured. You have only made me post something that I have long thought of, as to the appropriate-ness of the language used. In this particular instance, I see no reason for a warning, yet it was given to Zoya. So, my thought laid out loud, are we here to preach something through warnings in the forum, when the serial supports worst sort of violence and disgusting behaviors that isn't condone anywhere in the world?

Why are we always in the process of nursing a particular section of the audience? Are we here playing mothers, are we supposed to? Besides, shouldn't it encourage that members have an open-minded approach to discussion. If there are faint hearted ppl here, well, they either need to grow up or stop coming to a forum like this. A forum can't be modified just to please the sensitivity of an overly sensitive and faint hearted audience, who can't accept colloquially acceptable language, sarcasm, puns or see others sharing a light joke. If this becomes a norm, then we definitely live in an era that is restrictive to normal conversation...

The other very important question is, by pleasing this overly' sensitive audience, aren't the Mods doing a disservice to the very audience that they propose to protect? Is this right, for who knows if this audience unable to accept the 'show' commit suicide or start cyber bullying ...which has happened in the past. Things can get real ugly pretty quickly, in my opinion. So, my opinion, grow up and if one lives in a fantasy world of make believes and 'only a handful of acceptable words'...well, this aren't a place for those ppl, as many social sites aren't - my POV of course...

Edited by Kalapi - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago


Don Mclean sang a wonderful song "The day that Music Died" to mourn the death of John Lennon...There should an another dirge "The day that Humor Died and Partiality & Prissiness took over" dedicated to the Mods on IF!

If I say, Pure-vi needs to see a dentist for her Bruxism - grinding her teeth constantly and inappropriately,I'm told I am not allowed to make personal comments about an actor but it is ok if his/her fans rave about his/her Hotness quotient?? No care for the underage,tender years of visitors,then?

This kind of double standards in making arbitrary decisions to placate one fan base is unfair and infuriating to those who the MODS alone decide do not need to be placated-we are supposed to be hardy souls unlike the namby pamby fan bases and the panting masses?

WHY ARE THE RULES NOT APPLIED UNIFORMLY????
Edited by znursingh - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Can I ask a question KC? (This is an honest question, not meant to offend or provoke any negative reaction) This is a question I wanted to ask for sometime.

If Ovi had no rights over Arjun because he did not love her, even though they were engaged, doesn't that mean that every arrange marriage in the history of India should be terminated? Didn't the majority of those arrange marriages begin without love? Didn't some even resent those they were engaged to initially?
Didn't some of those marriages eventually turn into love, not to mention the birth of billions of special children?

Let us retrace our steps, to before Ovi put forward the deal to Purvi:

Whether or Not Arjun loved Ovi, he is the one who engaged her, there was no gun involved. Ovi made a feeble attempt of making him jealous, and he fell for it, because obviously he had some attraction for her, correct or not? So, how is that a trick or force? A man cannot be jealous and have no feelings, correct or not?
Once Arjun engaged Ovi, she had full rights on him, whether or not he was in love. He agreed to this proposal, correct or not?
When a Marriage is fixed, shouldn't it be taken seriously? Correct or not?

Arjun broke the rules of engagement when he got himself involved with Purvi. Arjun could have avoided this in many ways. I am sure it is quite normal to be attracted to someone even if you are attached, but I am sure there is awareness that you can avoid going deeper by distancing yourself and focusing on your commitment, correct or not?

Almost everyone is a potential soul mate for any person in life, when you think about it. However, it is the choice of deciding to commit that changes the game.

Arjun made a commitment and broke it.
Was Ovi supposed to forget that commitment also? In which world is it so perfect that the man will break his commitment and miraculously the woman feels the same way at the same time? Rarely.
There is normally one person who is still hung up on the relationship, sometimes for a little while sometimes almost forever.

Purvi had a choice, when Arjun told her he was engaged. Instead she waited for him to break off with Ovi. She was part of this big betrayal. As a woman she should have thought of Ovi, and how it would feel if she was in her place. However, Purvi never feels that her decisions are wrong, that is what makes her so dangerous.

Purvi really thought that her love built on a whole family's unhappiness could possibly be true love? A woman should understand and know these feelings more than a man. Ekta obviously does not understand this.

With that said, couldn't Ovi have been still hung up and feels that she has every right and was wronged by Arjun and Purvi, to the point where she puts forth a deal?

Since Arjun and Purvi felt strongly enough about their feelings for each other, where they were planning a wedding, while Ovi was planning her own funeral, how could a mere deal change their well laid plans? Weren't they meant for each other?
I believe that when Ovi put forth the deal using Archana's name, it is possible Purvi realised the shame in what she was doing. It does not matter if Arjun and Purvi fell in love under the most unfortunate circumstances, but do they have any right to forged their relationship on the framework of lies and betrayal? On the destruction of a family?
I can't see how that is right.

We know Manav and Archana were willing to let their daughter die a thousand deaths for Purvi's happiness, but I am ashamed to call them parents, because Arjun and Purvi's coming together was brutally done.

Maybe if Arjun had gone to Canada long before the drama, and sat Ovi down and explained, I would not be so turned off by Arjun and Purvi being together. However, they both handle this situation in a horrible unfeeling way towards Ovi.

Purvi should be ashamed as a female. I now completely with others that Ovi had a right to put forth a deal and bring down a heartless girl like Purvi and make her parents feel like crap for siding with the girl who facilitated the destruction of their BIO daughter.

Nothing is wrong with being adopted, but Purvi had no shame in taking Arjun, it is Ovi's deal that made her backtrack. I don't believe she did it directly for Archana or she would not have gone ahead to plan a wedding in the first place. I believe when Ovi put forth the deal, she saw that she was doing a grave injustice on Archana who took care of her, instead of her own children. She could not ignore Ovi's deal, because her wedding equals "Betraying Archana."

If I had any possible thoughts of maybe misjudging Purvi, she erased that completely when she gave Pari to Ovi and then once again backtrack to tell the truth, when Punni put forth her deal. She could have easily exposed Punni regarding the house. When it was a question of her dirty secret being exposed, she chose to give her baby to Ovi. Now when it is a question of Manav's (Sulo's) house, there is no thought of Ovi, she is ready to sing like a bird.

Purvi does not have a genuine bone in her body. She goes with the waves, goes with the motion of the ocean. She is as fickle as fickle can be. Purvi only thinks of Purvi.

What was done to Ovi was and still is a grave injustice by arranged marriage standards, since we are made to believe that Arjun does not love Ovi.

Please no offence meant to readers of this post










Edited by hillydee - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Hilly dear, you said it perfectly...

We all have siad it too, and the fact remains, Ovi could with one deal, show the true face of ''mar prem' that Pure-Vi had for Arjun.

It was a grave injustice to Ovi, when her marriage was unceremoniously broken, without a single thought spared for her. Words of marriages are written in gold and are held in the highest esteem and honor.

Not saying that Arjun, didn't have his right to back off his commitment. He had rights, but not the way ot was shown. His father should have gone ballistic with him, and so should have MAnav. Even the way the Trinity rubbed Pure-Vi's marriage on Ovi's face was downright cruel. No girl should face such a humiliation in life. As you say, Ekta has zero appreciation of such things...

As for arranged marriages being terminated - if the dictum of the forum is any yardstick, more than 90% could be terminated. And even arranged marriages are very successful where partners have ''other' previous relationships before marriage...the CVs simply show crap in the name of pyaar...

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Posted: 12 years ago
Kalapi, Hilly, Zoya, Varsha, Pari, Kools and Tejaswini, and of course Nina too,

Let us forget about all this, though Hilly's post is superbly logical. Let us instead praise both Ovi the character and Shruti the actress for what they showed today.

Shruti, who is not my idea of a beauty, and who does not have Ankita's talent for crying buckets while still looking gorgeous, today made me forget that her face gets so distorted when she is unhappy. All I could think of as I watched her on the roadside, in the company of two unknown women, weeping for her dead baby whom she never saw, whom she could not hold in her arms, of whom she did not even know whether it was a boy or a girl, was the gut-wrenching anguish that poured out from her frame, wracked as it was by sobs. Anguish that spread all over the screen and straight into the hearts of the viewers.

It was the same with her scene at Archana's bedside, when she brings out in full the sense of abandonment that haunted her as a child, while she waited in vain for her mother to come and fetch her when she was lost.

All through, I could feel what Ovi felt, and that is a great achievement for Shruti, who was raw and unschooled to begin with. She has indeed come a long way since then.

I do not know how Ovi's scene with Soham is going to develop - for she had not even run into him by the end of today's episode - nor what Purvi is going to do now to come clean before Punni does it for her. My gut feeling, enhanced by Purvi's sanctimonious insistence - in a 180 degrees turn from what she was saying just 2 days back - that the family has a "right" to know the truth, is that in the end she will not speak up, nor will Punni. I do not know why in either case, but I think that is what will happen.

The whole purpose of this exercise seems to have been to make sure that Ovi learns the truth, but no one else does. But will she not reveal it to the Ds? Let us see.I would like her to stand up for herself and her sanity, and leave Arjun for good. I do not think she is going to keep Pari, or at least that is the way it looks at the moment. She should quit this marriage cold turkey, and leave the amar premis to fend for themselves any which way they want to. That is the only way to salvage her self-respect. whatever is left of it. The problem is that she has no one to advise her correctly, and I do hope she does not make the mistake of shouting and making scenes. Cold, cutting contempt is what is called for at this juncture, and I hope she understands that.

As for Purvi, it was surreal to hear her preaching to Arjun that to hide the truth is also to lie. Why, then, her life is but one big lie - to Archana and Sulochana, to Arjun, to Onir .. there is no one left. As for her saying, as Arjun nods his head like a dummy, that perhaps Ovi, because she loves Pari so much, will soon forgive their galti. it was the height of self-serving impertinence.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Hilly dear, you said it perfectly...

We all have siad it too, and the fact remains, Ovi could with one deal, show the true face of ''mar prem' that Pure-Vi had for Arjun.

It was a grave injustice to Ovi, when her marriage was unceremoniously broken, without a single thought spared for her. Words of marriages are written in gold and are held in the highest esteem and honor.

Not saying that Arjun, didn't have his right to back off his commitment. He had rights, but not the way ot was shown. His father should have gone ballistic with him, and so should have MAnav. Even the way the Trinity rubbed Pure-Vi's marriage on Ovi's face was downright cruel. No girl should face such a humiliation in life. As you say, Ekta has zero appreciation of such things...

As for arranged marriages being terminated - if the dictum of the forum is any yardstick, more than 90% could be terminated. And even arranged marriages are very successful where partners have ''other' previous relationships before marriage...the CVs simply show crap in the name of pyaar...

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago
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Ovi's pitiful sobs had me choked. She has done nothing to deserve it. She was a lost child who tried her best to change and adapt to her surroundings, gave everyone a chance, apologized, regretted and atoned for her mistakes (something I am yet to see Miss.Mahanta do) and yet life gives her a sister like Purvi and husband like arjun

1) Her mother said 'Ovi, everything is in your head. Purvi is a saint, Arjun is like Lord Ram'. Wrong

2) Her husband said ' I dont have any relations with Purvi'. Turns out he has a child with her and to THIS DAY meets her behind Ovi's back and meets her

3) Her sister said ' I want your bhalayi' What she meant was I want to decieve you and save my ass.

Today when Ovi found out the truth, she mourned and cried for her dead child and bereaved the fact that she couldnt even see him or her. That is the difference between Ovi and Arjun. While Ovi cries for her dead baby, whom she loved and wanted to strengthen her relationship, Arjun didnt give two hoots. He instead went to kiss Pari on her forehead. GROSS. DISGUSTING.YUCK.

I think today, its very clear who really wanted the baby and who didnt.

Purvi DISGUSTED me. 'I am gonna tell the truth" "Its everyone's HAQ to know the truth'
So why did you not tell the truth to Ovi when she put forth the deal? Why not when she found out she was pregnant? She gave up all those chances only to tell the truth for a house (her childhood home)?

BEYOND SELFISH.

Shruti Kanwar is one FABULOUS ACTRESS. Respect. She is Ekta's best find. Stunning, talented and powerhouse actress. How she does it everytime is beyond me.

Her pitiful sobs, her anger, despair, pain, anguish. Top notch performance.
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Posted: 12 years ago
Zoya, Homie, Kalapi, Shyamala, and Tiya dears Fabulous posts...👏
Hi everyone!!
What a fantabulous acting-emoting by this young talented actress Shruti playing the role of Ovi...Finally the disgusting truth came out which broke her heart into million pieces, Finally finding out your child you carry in your womb and loved for 7 months was dead..She does not even know that baby was stillborn, boy or a girl as the genius Doc-BIL and step sister Pure-Vi decided to be god and got rid of that baby like yesterday's trash...No respet or honor for that little baby.
Ovi's sobs, cry, loss, despair, hurt, pain and devestation talking to her mother and on the sidewalk brought true tears in my eyes...I choaked with emotions...No one wants to hear abt their child dying and spouse cheating with his ex who is your step sister..
Her childhood pain of abandonement from the mother, waiting all her life to find her when she was lost wow wow wow shruti you did a fab job...You touched this viewer's heart and soul with your emotions..😭😭😭👏👏👏
Wonder why Teju is back at Ds for Ovi...The girl could not be happy for her sister's baby while Purvi's baby had supposidly died...😡
Purvi giving out lecture on family having a right to knw the truth and hiding is a lie and a sin...Is it not bit tooo late...After her Fing up Ovi and her dead baby's life...😡😡WGF abt Arjun as he signed up for it when he fell in love with this manipulative young lady..mind you an 18 yrs old woman she was...So much control and power over people especially 2 men Arjun and Onir..😡
Why now??? is my million $ Q...She did not think Ovi could handle her baby's death, HTH is Ovi going to handle this truth because she loves Pari 😲 What a logic or convinience for her..She does everything calculatively...She wants her Pari back along with Arjun...She uses people as dhaal-protective shield to get what she wants..
She has used Arjun, her aai Archu, Onir and Pari...Gosh when one has a sister like Purvi and BBF like Arjun who needs enemies? 🤢
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