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Posted: 12 years ago
#51
Completely agree with you. In the whole fiasco arjun is the one who is going to suffer in between his mahaan lover n psycho wife who lives in her own world. As for purvi's soo called sacrifice its just beginning of another drama.it woukd of been better even arjun left both the girls n married someone else kyunki now he will go mad when everyone will sympathize with purvi and blame arjun. Bechara na ghar ka na ghat kaa pyar arjun ko bahut phenga paad gaya n as for ovi n purvi none of them deserves arjun at all.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: Swati_

KD 🤗
How are you di ? The kids?
Awww...di you wrote this post after such a long time...i read it...and as always liked it... 😊 😊
Di i have stopped watching this serial ...i come here to get some updates on Sushant...
I really really missed you di
But yes i do agree Arjun should not have married Ovi...um...but i dont care..i am just happy you made a post 😊
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Hi Swati 🤗,
How do you do. Its been so long ,very long to ineract but I have seen your glimpse visits at Nikki's FF or in some sushant's news thread.

Hope you are doing well and good. All the Best .take care.

Yes, we do stuck to this serial till now, Tried to leave it too,Left a gap, left for some months, But then came back, as Pagal Pr fan or addicted to PR forum.



@Kool di, Varsha di,Kalapi Di, masti - very nice posts. good to read all.
Edited by umayal - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#53
I agree with a great deal of what has been said in this thread, and the opening post by koolsadhu is splendidly coherent, clear and convincing.

But as for
@red below, I have two reservations.

1) If Arjun had jumped off that cliff or hill or whatever, there might not have been much left of him to start a new life😉.

2) More to the point, why should he jump off? In his place, I would have thrown Purvi over the cliff, dusted my hands and left for Canada and peace, of course Ovi-lessly.

God, how Purvi hounds him relentlessly, demanding, without any sense of shame, such a price for her happiness (thru that of her parivaar), and for her so-called love, even when she is going to snatch it from him for keeps!

It is not enough that she keeps him dangling till the very end, that she breaks every promise she has made to him, that she makes a mockery of what she calls her great love for him. She must go further and deliver him. bound hand and foot by his obsession with her, to an unwanted marriage for the rest of his life.

I think Arjun agreed in the end to her demand because he was sick to death of her haranguing him, and probably he wanted to show her what getting her wish fulfilled would be like. He does not understand, being not really familiar with the psyche of the Karanjkar women, that this Archana lite will wallow and rejoice in her tyaag
(at Arjun's expense, made possible because he is such a besotted fool), upheld by an invincible consciousness of her mahaanta.

I think he is definitely better off not marrying her. She would have spent all her time mourning the loss of her aai's pavitra rishta - no matter that it had been in cold storage for 18 years - and would have made his life a living hell.

I always knew, and have repeated ad nauseum, that Arjun came low in her list of priorities, and that when the time came, she would sacrifice him without a second thought. Manav was right; it would have been much better for Arjun never to have come to India, and to never have met this aai-obsessed female.

He would then have been safe from this great, undying love that has now, like the black widow spider, eaten him alive.

As for her,
for one moment, I had the faint hope that she might have thrown herself over that cliff and thus rid us of her for good, but no such luck😉. I am sure she will surface very soon somewhere, with a long face and a Sintex tankful of tears, and continue to haunt Arjun till he is driven completely round the bend.


Shyamala B.Cowsik



Originally posted by: m_masti



Kalapi, in my view Ovi didn't win her love...
it is ok, if arjun doesn't love anyone, and as he has to marry someone he is marrying ovi is ok...but here arjun is in love with someone, and prove that person that he love her so much he is marrying ovi...
just by prove purvi that his love is true he is marrying ovi...
if i am in ovi's place, i want arjun and purvi to learn the lesson, but i never want to marry a man who thinks of other girl all the time...
if arjun move-on with ovi then it is good...but if arjun still has feeling for purvi, and touches ovi thinking she is purvi...then it is bad thing a girl can have in this world...

in my view...arjun/purvi/ovi are not matured at all to make big decision of life...they are feeling it as end of the world...but its not...

arjun is making the same mistake again, he still committed to a girl and got married to other girl...

if he really got over from purvi...and if he realized he can never be happy with purvi because of purvi's or archu's stupid challenges all long the life then it is ok, he can move on with ovi...but if he is doing it to prove that he love purvi...then it is the wrong decision...its better if he jumps from that cliff and forget everything as many ekta's characters forget everything, and start a new life...


Originally posted by: Kalapi

Wrote the following in another thread...wanted to see what is your opinion😃

tell me what is so wrong what Ovi did that she went ahead and grabbed her love'.

To me, it is only a game of survival of the fittest that has been hailed as the best theory that explains the evolution of the human race. Ovi was strong, she used all the weapons of diplomacy to gain her love ' love, hate, divide etc. right??

Even if we see Purvi so called 'falling in love' wasn't it that she was unconsciously selecting the best suitor that can fulfill her future need and provide the best in terms of food and shelter for her progeny'I am not saying this'this phenomenon is universally accepted fact that Women will unconsciously choose the fittest in the 'male species' to survive'eh, it this terms'Ovi just came out the strongest, she survived the race'so what is so wrong in that???/




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Posted: 12 years ago
#54
I could not agree with you more. If If I had been Arjun, I would have thrown Purvi off the cliff, dusted my hands and gone back to Canada Ovi-lessly.😉

Shyamala B.Cowsik


Originally posted by: Miss.Colorfull

Completely agree with you. In the whole fiasco arjun is the one who is going to suffer in between his mahaan lover n psycho wife who lives in her own world. As for purvi's soo called sacrifice its just beginning of another drama.it woukd of been better even arjun left both the girls n married someone else kyunki now he will go mad when everyone will sympathize with purvi and blame arjun. Bechara na ghar ka na ghat kaa pyar arjun ko bahut phenga paad gaya n as for ovi n purvi none of them deserves arjun at all.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: umayal


Hi Swati 🤗,
How do you do. Its been so long ,very long to ineract but I have seen your glimpse visits at Nikki's FF or in some sushant's news thread.

Hope you are doing well and good. All the Best .take care.

Yes, we do stuck to this serial till now, Tried to leave it too,Left a gap, left for some months, But then came back, as Pagal Pr fan or addicted to PR forum.



@Kool di, Varsha di,Kalapi Di, masti - very nice posts. good to read all.

Hey Umi 🤗
I am doing fine...What about you ?
Yeah its been ages since we have talked na ?
I remember those good old days a lot Umi
Awww...You still watch this serial...I have not watched episodes since the day Sushant left...
Take care Umi...Love you 🤗
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Posted: 12 years ago
#56
American audience applaud when a girl goes after Her man . They believe that all is fair in love and war . In American soaps the girl goes after even a married man . She simply follows her heart as she believes she has one life to live . Americans believe that if the man files for divorce its his burden not the girl's fault ...he is answerable to his wife not the girl .

But this is India and an Indian soap .

Here Arjun is unmarried .

Here Arjun was engaged to Ovi [ without a party thrown in as befitting their status but nevertheless with the blessings of the elders and it was he who proposed without any kind of force].

Here Ovi loved him since puberty and she never was interested in boyfriends although it was a developed country .

Her fiancee comes for a project tp another country and falls for another girl and what should she do ?

Quietly , chupchap move out of his way and not question him or the girl . In short , she should just roll over . Then she will be 'good Ovi.'

She should accept her mother 's decision who is divorcing her father yet again ...her decision ...her atrocious decision if i may add ...[one among the many she has taken in her life] quietly like a 'good' ' obedient' child and cling to her and even weave the flower garlands for the Arjun Purvi wedding .

Why ?

If people tell me Kools you are going too far , all we are asking is that she ' respect' others feelings may I ask

Why should there be a control button on Ovi's feelings while the feelings of Arjun Purvi should be uncontrollable ?

Infact so uncontrollable are they that he renounced is dad , business everything and lived in poverty for her ...he had got it that badly . But Ovi should not get it that badly ...only he . Why ? Am puzzled . Who makes these rules ?

What is underhanded about that deal ? She offered the deal to her mother , then to her adopted daughter who had created a havoc in her peaceful life .

Had she told Purvi to hide the deal from Archana or Arjun ?

Had she told Purvi to hide from Archana that it was she who had postponed the divorce for 10 days ? Later she was smart enough to heave a sigh of relief that Purvi did not tell her name but the decion was Purvi's alone right ?


The truth is Purvi , who was smart enough to smell deals as she was a smart working girl grabbed the deal out of her own wish the moment it was offered to her by constantly thinking and mulling over it . This deal would give her Aai everything ...Aai was personally foolish and stubborn and going about it the wrong way .

Arjun was totally under her thumb [ many are gonna hate me for spelling it out so bluntly] and making Arjun listen was her job .

Purvi realised quickly that it was a good deal and sold Arjun for her Aai's happiness .

But Purvi is noble . So is Arjun who has been cracking deals with DK all his life . Ah i forgot . One makes deals in business not in life .

Says who ?😆😆😆 This entire life we get is a deal with God if u believe in him and if you are smart enough to know what you want you win . Purvi wanted Archana's happiness and Ovi wanted only Arjun .

And Arjun? 😆😆 Trust me , he is better off without Purvi . I would hate to be sold like that ...and be eternally grateful to the deal maker for exposing the real face .











Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#57
Swati dear

🤗🤗🤗

So good to see u again . Missed u a lot . I hope ur studying hard and may god bless u .

Yes i did post after a long time . 😆 Just for a lark as i have lost intrest in PR too !😆😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

American audience applaud when a girl goes after Her man . They believe that all is fair in love and war . In American soaps the girl goes after even a married man . She simply follows her heart as she believes she has one life to live . Americans believe that if the man files for divorce its his burden not the girl's fault ...he is answerable to his wife not the girl .


But this is India and an Indian soap .

Here Arjun is unmarried .

Here Arjun was engaged to Ovi [ without a party thrown in as befitting their status but nevertheless with the blessings of the elders and it was he who proposed without any kind of force].

Here Ovi loved him since puberty and she never was interested in boyfriends although it was a developed country .

Her fiancee comes for a project tp another country and falls for another girl and what should she do ?

Quietly , chupchap move out of his way and not question him or the girl . In short , she should just roll over . Then she will be 'good Ovi.'

She should accept her mother 's decision who is divorcing her father yet again ...her decision ...her atrocious decision if i may add ...[one among the many she has taken in her life] quietly like a 'good' ' obedient' child and cling to her and even weave the flower garlands for the Arjun Purvi wedding .

Why ?

If people tell me Kools you are going too far , all we are asking is that she ' respect' others feelings may I ask

Why should there be a control button on Ovi's feelings while the feelings of Arjun Purvi should be uncontrollable ?

Infact so uncontrollable are they that he renounced is dad , business everything and lived in poverty for her ...he had got it that badly . But Ovi should not get it that badly ...only he . Why ? Am puzzled . Who makes these rules ?

What is underhanded about that deal ? She offered the deal to her mother , then to her adopted daughter who had created a havoc in her peaceful life .

Had she told Purvi to hide the deal from Archana or Arjun ?

Had she told Purvi to hide from Archana that it was she who had postponed the divorce for 10 days ? Later she was smart enough to heave a sigh of relief that Purvi did not tell her name but the decion was Purvi's alone right ?


The truth is Purvi , who was smart enough to smell deals as she was a smart working girl grabbed the deal out of her own wish the moment it was offered to her by constantly thinking and mulling over it . This deal would give her Aai everything ...Aai was personally foolish and stubborn and going about it the wrong way .

Arjun was totally under her thumb [ many are gonna hate me for spelling it out so bluntly] and making Arjun listen was her job .

Purvi realised quickly that it was a good deal and sold Arjun for her Aai's happiness .

But Purvi is noble . So is Arjun who has been cracking deals with DK all his life . Ah i forgot . One makes deals in business not in life .

Says who ?😆😆😆 This entire life we get is a deal with God if u believe in him and if you are smart enough to know what you want you win . Purvi wanted Archana's happiness and Ovi wanted only Arjun .

And Arjun? 😆😆 Trust me , he is better off without Purvi . I would hate to be sold like that ...and be eternally grateful to the deal maker for exposing the real face .

Kool..absolutely correct.. but it;s a harsh & blunt truth..I am very sure that these things(Arjun-Purvi-Ovi) do happen in real life but what is fair for everybody involved?
If I step aside and look at it.. Arjun and Ovi are the most selfish ones.. Arjun went after what he wanted and Ovi went after what she wanted.. The indian Sankaari girl, adoped kid is the one got affected in this whole situation in every step of her way. How she handled it is a different story.
She can not force Arjun to marry Ovi. By doing so, she has portrayed herself as a selfish person.
Ovi asked her to leave Arjun, she never asked Purvi to convince Arjun to marry her. Why she has to do that step on her own. Arjun was very upset and AKish when he agreed to marry Ovi..
I want to see whether the marriage is going to work or what he is planning to do..
Besides..Purvi is very gentle in our hearts, so I am not able to take your version..Kool, I always love your sarcasm but not able to do that today. We are emotionally hurt..
The current gen kids (American or Indian kids) are very very practical (mostly) and less emotional. They get over things very fast and take care of their needs before others' need.
Whereas I am (an FOB, not fresh..15 years in US) the one who fall for this emotional blackmail and expect a fair deal.
Let me do a different post about your Americans and American soap..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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"American audience applaud when a girl goes after Her man . They believe that all is fair in love and war . In American soaps the girl goes after even a married man . She simply follows her heart as she believes she has one life to live . Americans believe that if the man files for divorce its his burden not the girl's fault ...he is answerable to his wife not the girl ."
Your statement about Americans or the soap is a stereotype.. Not agreeing..
The good thing about American soap is..less emotional for us.. cause we can never connect with their life style. so it doesn;t affect us that much. Period..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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YES
becoz indian serials show indian men wimp like that and women very powerful and who runs the home

but the reality is exactly opp...

And ideally arjun should cut out this crap and should have bombarded purvi that you dont live me and you love your aai more thats fine...but why should I destroy my life in you being mahaan procedure...
that means he too is ready to be bakra aka goat...
his character is destroyed forever...

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