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Posted: 14 years ago
How long will she be excused as foolish and naive ?

Chearly she knows Varsha wants her baby , she knows Satishs instructions .

Clearly she knows Manav disapproves ...she MET Manavs eyes , and btw she always claims she knows Manavs DIL KI BAAT etc etc as she is in love with him . So did not she know Manav disapproves ?

What was the need to say Varsha tay the night ? Was Archana gonna run on the roads searching for Sulo even at night ?

Why allow Varsha even an extra inch in her life anymore after Varshas intentions r clearly revealed by now ?

Varsha was NOT interested in staying , Archana coaxed her . She relented after getting tempted with Soham .

For that matter , why not pick between Mom and son and opt for SON as Mom is staying incognito with her own wish and although love for mom is natural , giving up your son is simply not done ?

Her mom has discarded her and not bothered about her grief ...so enveloped is she in her own grief . So cozSulo discarded her , is she gonna discard her son ?

I feel she has read Manav . She is smart enough NOT to take direct panga with Manav . She knows , if directly asked he will NEVER listen to giving up Soham again to Varsha . Also she has been feeling quite sorry for Varsha for sometime now and does not mind giving her baby up again . But Manav is MAIN obstacle and so is Satish who bluntly told her dont bring Soham to Varsha . Both the men can be managed by telling this is Emergency Situation .

This is how I read it . Its not naivete this time . Not reading his eyes was rather deliberate .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
Archana was very wrong in keeping Varsha at the house. If Varsha said she wanted to leave, Archana should have said ok, or let her or said come anohter time, but she let Varsha have Soham. Whether Archana is being foolish, or if she knows it but is purposefully disobeying MAnav is what I don't know, I think she is just too upset with the situation of her mother that she let Varsha have Soham for a little bit, but that's no excuse.

Manav was doing Archana a favor by not scolding her, and giving her a hug. Even Savita kept her mouth shut as she does not want to escalate the problems in the house.
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

How long will she be excused as foolish and naive ?

That is what the character is ...

Remeber how she once shared a cab with a pimp ...and then countless other occasions ...including the one when she divorced her husbamd only because he told her that he has to take care of another woman ...and also accept his request of keeping relations even after the divorce ...
Only a foolish and a naive woman would accept and allow all this to happen to her
Chearly she knows Varsha wants her baby , she knows Satishs instructions .
That's why she agreed never to take her baby to Varsha and walked out with the child ...I think she desperately wants Varsha to love Soham like a good mausi ...and she hopes that it will happen one day ..She loves varsha a lot and knows how much happiness Soham gives her and she also feel bad for varsha ...but still she does not wants varsha to just take up the child away from her forever ..
I think Archana is in the hope that varsha will realize this and will be the best mausi and help Archana with the baby and both sisters will love having Soham in their lives ...
Both my children think of both their Khallas just like their mothers too ...
In this case I know it is differnt but I think Archu is hoping that Varsha will understand that mausi too is like a mother and she can just be a great mausi ...
Right now if Archan is not well, savita is busy with damodar then Var
Sohan is like a blessing from God for both these sisters ...they can both love him and varsha can give her sister a lot of help in taking care of him and enjoy this little boy as part of her life ..
But Varsha is turning this blessing into a curse ...that will drive away the person who loves her so much , the very person who made her mausi of thsi beautiful boy ..sha can take good care of Soham ...but Varsha has to stop saying that she is Soham's mother ...
Varsha should love her sister for giving her a beautiful nephew and not try and just think about her self ...
that's what I feel right now ...
There is Ma even in the word Masi ...Varsha should thank God for givng her a sister like Archana who has always stood by her and not hurting Archana , Soham ,Manav and sachu ...only because she wanst to have Soham all for herself ...

Clearly she knows Manav disapproves ...she MET Manavs eyes , and btw she always claims she knows Manavs DIL KI BAAT etc etc as she is in love with him . So did not she know Manav disapproves ?
I also did not understand Manav's disapproval ..he did give a look bu timmediately got up and then gave Archana a tight hug withing 2 seconds ... ..he did not say one word about Soham ...Manav has to be much more vocal and strict now ...I would love to see that .

What was the need to say Varsha tay the night ? Was Archana gonna run on the roads searching for Sulo even at night ?
I think she did not wanted to deal with Soham's crying ...
because of her mother's siutation ...Archana is mentally drianed out ...
I will admit , it was selfish of Archana only to think of Soham and not of Varsha ..I think Archana still thinks that Varsha is slowly coming to terms with the fact that Soham is only Archana's son and she is his mausi ...

Varsha was NOT interested in staying , Archana coaxed her . She relented after getting tempted with Soham .
Varsha was interested in staying near Soham ...but she did try and go away but as I said , foolishy Archna stopped her ...I still have to see more to be able to say convincingly that Archana is trying to push Soham towards varsha ...Sure she is in a way but only to keep Mausi and nephew clsoe together ...So far I have yet to see Archana giving up her rights on Soham as a mother ...

For that matter , why not pick between Mom and son and opt for SON as Mom is staying incognito with her own wish and although love for mom is natural , giving up your son is simply not done ?
Son is son ..he is safe at home with his loved ones ...but her mother is out there in danger ..Do not blame Archana at all for being worried sick about Sulochna ...

Her mom has discarded her and not bothered about her grief ...so enveloped is she in her own grief . So cozSulo discarded her , is she gonna discard her son ?
Why would she discard her son ...😕
Bu tno matter what Sulochna does ...Archan should try and find her ...

I feel she has read Manav . She is smart enough NOT to take direct panga with Manav . She knows , if directly asked he will NEVER listen to giving up Soham again to Varsha . Also she has been feeling quite sorry for Varsha for sometime now and does not mind giving her baby up again . But Manav is MAIN obstacle and so is Satish who bluntly told her dont bring Soham to Varsha . Both the men can be mnanaged by telling this is Emergency Situation .
As I said before ...so far what I gather is that she does feel sorry For varsha but despite of all the love she has for varsha , somehow she has not been able to accept the situation where she can completely forget about Soham ...Still, she wants varsha to play an important role in Soham's life ...that of a mausi who is almost liek a mother ...but not the mother ...She wants to share this happiness, this joy with her sister ...

This is how I read it . Its not naivete this time . Not reading hiseyes was rather deliberate .
Manav needs to be more astrict with her and tell her that he doesn't wish to take the risk of haing Varsha around ..It is not as if he does not gets angry at her ..In the last few weeks , he did give her the third degree when he was angry ...like the English speaking matter ...
So why is he not beign strict with these two sisters about Soham ...
Archana trusts Varsha and the love that was always there between sisters ..Archana doesn't thinks that her sister will hurt her ...( Archana is terribly foolish and she even trusts Manju ) but then manav definitely doesn't trusts Varsha that much ...Soham is also his son...
Kool, t I think we need to see more of this tarck ...the next couple of weeks would reveal the intentions of Archana and Varsha for sure ...
If Archna gives her son away to Varsha for good and shows intentions of , as yo usay , discardign him away ...and manav does nothing but sit back and enjoy the tamasha ...then I will give up the show for some tiem , till they correct the track that totall ygoes agains tthe characters of both manav and Archana ...

Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago


Agree, Manav needs to be more strict with Archana for sure. The reason I think Manav was soft on his wife was because she is very sad right now for her mother, and that's why he decided to be easy on her.

You may disagree with me on this Tanya Di, but I think Varsha is just as untrustoworthy as Manjusha is. The reason I said this is because she wants the baby and will find any way to get it back. Archana definitely can't see what Varsha is trying to do, but Manav can. He knows varsha's plans really good. ArMan should give a good blast to Varsha just as much as they did to Vinod and Manjusha. The only people out of the four MAnav has not blasted is Varsha. I don't think that Soham will be given to Varsha anymore. I think ArMan need to be firm about this with her, Varsha is his mausi/khala and as you correctly said, this situation is different.
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Posted: 14 years ago
Bhalla, call me also naive and foolish ...but I have faith in Varsha ...even after the way she has behaved ...I just have hope that one day the old Varsha will come back ..and will be the good sister to Archana the way she was and the best ever mausi to Soham ... Maybe I am completely wrong but I have my fingers crossed ...
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Bhalla, call me also naive and foolish ...but I have faith in Varsha ...even after the way she has behaved ...I just have hope that one day the old Varsha will come back ..and will be the good sister to Archana the way she was and the best ever mausi to Soham ... Maybe I am completely wrong but I have my fingers crossed ...



Hi Tanya Di,

@bold, would never call you that, I respect your POV completely. Even I wish for the old Varsha to come back, she would not spare Manjusha this time if this was old Varsha. She would have given Manju another slap for throwing Sulo out of the house. I hope what you said comes true, though, Varsha should definitely stop her ego for the child.

This baby gifting track has ruined Varsha's character completely. I must say, it has even ruined Satish's to an extent. He has to go with whatever his wife says
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Posted: 14 years ago
Tanya I think its MORE than the mausi khalla thing .

The atmosphere in the room was very tense when she asked Varsha to stay . As bhalla said , Savita only tensely observed it and opted to stay out of it , leaving Hubby Wife to sort the tension out .

She CAN read Manav very well , however foolish and naive she is as a character . Reading Manav is also a part of her PREM DIWAANI character .

She IGNORED him .

The hug was given to her inside for a totally different reason . It was for her worry about Sulo . It was not for encouraging Soham issue .

Sure the coming weeks will clarify it . But it smelt very bad yesterday , more so for Archana .

It appeared as if she was manipulating the emergency situation to have her way about her unconditional love for her sister .

It must never be forgotten that she had given up her first baby in first trimester , even then Varsha had not asked for it , it was Archanas idea ,, Varsha had in fact told her to stop talking gibberish.

Honestly , giving up babies is NOT a big deal for her , it comes easily to her as she loves sisters MORE than own babies , its a sad truth .

I will agree with u on one thing . Manav shud indeed take a very very tough stand with her this time and stop his baby from being given away second time .

First baby was given away before first trimester . Second after it was born . Somehow it was retrieved . Again its being headed to SAME situation .

This is inexcusable .

If I were Archana I wud be VERY angry with Sulo when I wud meet her ...Sulo is costing her husband to lose a considerable chunk of money AND HIS BABY as Archana feels its mANDATORY to be personally involved in the search hunt by keeping her babies apart .


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Posted: 14 years ago
Archana is very foolish but she always says she knows Manav more than herself. If she does, she should be able to know what Manav wants, but unfortunately she is not aware that Manav does not want Soham to go back to Varsha and that's not good of Archana.

The hug Manav gave to Archana could have ben for the tension going on and Sulo being lost. I hope all the daughters blast Sulochana for having a good time at the old age home without informing her daughters. Doesn't Sulochana have the littlest idea of how much work Manav is having to do and how much her daughters will be worrying for her? Very wrong on Sulochana's part.
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Posted: 14 years ago
Ok Kool, let's wait and see how the track develops ..I will call her wrong if there is enough evidence that she considered Soham less important than Varsha ...for now I will wait and watch ...I need to see more before I come to any conclusion on this .. She left her family for manav ...so I do not say that she loves her sistrs more than anything else ...

The next two weeks will show everything ..If the writers do show that as you have said , Archana did let go of Soham to keep Varsha happy ...then of course I will blats her and as I said , leave the show ...
But for now , I will wait and watch ...
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
You see Kool, right now if someone likes Archana and has always liked her ...( like me ) that person would still give her benefit of doubt before saying that she does not loves her babies ...
But someone who does not find her so special , as you , I can understand the anger ...
For now I will wait and watch the track ...if the track goes ahead and they show her as a bad mother then that's it ...I don't want to see the show ./...but if they show her a loving mother who will never part with her son and also a good sister who took care of her lonely depressed sister and let her sister enjoy the precious little child ...but only as a nephew and not as her son ...then I will keep watching ...it is as simple as that ...😆
and yes, manav shares an independent relationship with Soham ...he has to be strict with Archana ...the risk that Archana is taking with Soham near Varsha may not be the right risk for manav and he should put his foot down ...
When Archan did somethign like that , he should have shown anger ...I know hug was for a differnt reason but nevertheless , it was a hug ...where as Archana should have been given a cold treatment ...
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago

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