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Posted: 14 years ago
di, if you notice a lot of Archu fans have stopped coming to the forum too.The general feeling is that when Manav or any other characters does something its the writers who has butchered the character but when it comes to Archana, the character itself bears the brunt.I may be wrong but that is how I interpreted the writer's meaning.

I don't think so Omana . I have seen tremendous criticism of Manav as a character . His character has borne equal brunt of criticism . For committing to Shravani . I have seen it all along .

If you are saying that when Manav does something wrong it is said Manav is butchered but when Archu does something wrong its never said so ...It will happen that way only . Coz Archana CANNOT be butchered . she is the MAIN LEAD . All others will be butchered for HER , thats how it WORKS . It were we who were MISTAKEn that it was an ARMAN show with equal footage to both . We had totally forgotten it was a BT soap ...a saas bahu kinda soap where the Tulsis , Parvatis and Archanas will NEVER be butchered but the male leads WILL be . Thats FORMULA for u . PR has today safely fallen in that slot , no one can dispute it .

Archana , as I see it , has NOT been butchered AT ALL . And trust me , she won't be . Her character is what it is ...attached to Sulochana , guided by sulochana , foolish , naive , emotional and perpetually guilt stricken . Thats how she WAS and thats how she is .

Manav was WAY different and is WAY different today . He was responsible , committed to his family , loved Archana quietly but never wavered from responsibility . Today we see him wavering from even the responsibility of his OWN SON . Not to mention how he neglected his parents when seperate . How he was made to put sindoor in Shravnis maang etc so sympathy cud be given to the main lead ...The female heroine . As the Weeping female lead is the archetype heroine of serial land .

Today we simply see him PRAISING her or APOLOGSING to her . If at all he shouts , its ensured that the apologies r MAGANIMOUS. Rose petals r showered on her or the apology is PUBLIC . The Tulsis , Parvatisand archanas can NEVER be wrong , the male lead HAS to accept his mistake .

Archu has NOT changed . Manav HAS . Even the richness change was connstantly referred to negatively by CVS ...with dialogues like TUM BADAL GAYE HO . It was emphasized and emphasized that Archana has NOT CHANGED . I am not telling what I feel subjectively . These r FACTS that I see .

And this brought home a fact ...that OU R expectations were higher . It is a BT soap and THIS will only happen . There is no question of being unfair to Archu and stating Manav was butchered but not she etc ...AISA HI HOTA HAI . This their formula .

As far as Archu fans leaving the forum ...Really , I guess even many ARMAN fans have left post leap as now serial only sucks ?? But Manav Fans I noticed , left much before as they grew tired of Manav simply playing second fiddle to Archna . i may be wrong of course . Just my observation .



Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
i want to know pleeese if u dont mind why u think archana again give soham to varsha? bc there is no sign of this track and cv understand their fault before and made it correct that soham with arman so i think giving soham track will not be shown again.may be they show varsha as MOUSI OF SOHAM
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

If you are saying that when Manav does something wrong it is said Manav is butchered but when Archu does something wrong its never said so ...It will happen that way only . Coz Archana CANNOT be butchered . she is the MAIN LEAD . All others will be butchered for HER , thats how it WORKS . It were we who were MISTAKEn that it was an ARMAN show with equal footage to both . We had totally forgotten it was a BT soap ...a saas bahu kinda soap where the Tulsis , Parvatis and Archanas will NEVER be butchered but the male leads WILL be . Thats FORMULA for u . PR has today safely fallen in that slot , no one can dispute it . This show is my first desi serial, I didn't know about formula .Leads to me has always been ArMan.There is no Archana without Manav and vice versa is how I felt all along even though there were times I wish they weren't together.

Archana , as I see it , has NOT been butchered AT ALL . And trust me , she won't be . Her character is what it is ...attached to Sulochana , guided by sulochana , foolish , naive , emotional and perpetually guilt stricken . Thats how she WAS and thats how she is . Archana's character has been poorly written, and I personally feel post leap it has became worst. The simple girl at the beginning of the show who takes care of everyone is doesn't know how to handle her own child. Archana has always been good with kids, she could comfort wailing babies on train but is lost how to handle her own child 🤪.

And this brought home a fact ...that OU R expectations were higher . It is a BT soap and THIS will only happen . There is no question of being unfair to Archu and stating Manav was butchered but not she etc ...AISA HI HOTA HAI . This their formula . All I want is to see is ArMan as parents, to see the next phase in their marital life and how they overcome whatever problems that they face together but I guess that is asking too much😔.

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: poas

i want to know pleeese if u dont mind why u think archana again give soham to varsha? bc there is no sign of this track and cv understand their fault before and made it correct that soham with arman so i think giving soham track will not be shown again.may be they show varsha as MOUSI OF SOHAM



Poppy i think we r all a bit anxious that CVs may consider again that track after Sulo's brainwashing. She clearly told her elder daughter to make sure that her sisters are always happy n never cry.
How can Varsha b happy without Soham?🤢
We are pretty sure CVs are still toying with this idea.

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: omshreejaanu

Poppy i think we r all a bit anxious that CVs may consider again that track after Sulo's brainwashing. She clearly told her elder daughter to make sure that her sisters are always happy n never cry.
How can Varsha b happy without Soham?🤢
We are pretty sure CVs are still toying with this idea.

Varsha will never be happy,she seem to like the chase after she gets Soham,she will just find another excuse to be miserable and further ruin Satish's life.
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Posted: 14 years ago

By trying to glorify Archana , they have butchered her character to such an extent that she is practically unrecognizable now when you compare her to the 2009 episodes ...

Maybe it is just me , but personally I feel Archana deshmukh is the most butchered character on the show ...
It is a poorly written character with a lot of inconsistencies ...
kehti kuch hai aur karti kuch aur hai ...
She says something moralistic the previous episode .. and goes against her own words in the next episode ...
Archana wasnt like this in the first few months of the show .. she was BELIEVABLY naive , foolish , emotional etc ... that was in 2009 ...
And you actually sympathised with her ..
But from then on , it has been downhill for her ... after a point , it became hard to justify her actions as a result of her naive , emotional , sacrificial nature ... instead she sometimes came across as a bit selfish , manipulative and sneaky ... which was probably NOT what the CVs intended to show ...
EDIT : Omana , luv the way u hav stacked up all the video bits for ur siggy .. too cute !!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
Agree Lunzi.
It is hard to believe that this is the Archana of the earlier episodes. I loved her for her simplicity, her innocence n the goodness oozing from her. As u say, she was believably foolish, naive n emotional.
I still love her coz Archana has no mean streak n has big heart on her palm - two qualities that i personally never overlook in ppl . 😳
But i must admit it is difficult not to b angry at her these days. She is just unbelievably foolish, emotional n naive.
CVs wanted to portray a perfect character but have failed miserably. Instead they are showing us a total misfit in nowadays society.
Edit: Omana has made a siggy!! Where is it?😛

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Posted: 14 years ago
lol , ok , i dont know who made the siggy .. i was talking about the siggy she is using now ... all the video clips placed one after the other is looking really cute
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: omshreejaanu


Edit: Omana has made a siggy!! Where is it?😛

Oh no Jaanu, I didn't make them.Its Mandy's and Jia's creations 😃 I just stacked them together as my siggy 😛
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Posted: 14 years ago

By trying to glorify Archana , they have butchered her character to such an extent that she is practically unrecognizable now when you compare her to the 2009 episodes ...

Maybe it is just me , but personally I feel Archana deshmukh is the most butchered character on the show ...

Yes . But butchering HER was not their goal . Far from it . Her butchering simply HAPPENED . While the butchering of other characters was systematic .

What they set out to do was make her SHINE by showing her abnormally MAHAAN . This is a formula gimmick THEY believe works .Ekta herself admits to it in many interviews . But it BOMBARDED , coz in the process of making her larger than life , they took away the realism from the show . No one could RELATE to her anymore ...She gave up her marraige , She gives up her baby , She simply does not MIND that her husband is repeatedly insulted by her family ...She goes on beaming and forgiving , beaming and Forgiving . She even says Manju CRIED for Sulochana

Their goal was to make her SHINE but instead she got BUTCHERED as people cud not relate to her anymore . And this is shoddy script writing . When you fail to accomplish the goal you set out to by drafting a script , The script writing is SHODDY . Her loyal fans stuck on , but even they r apalled that she does NOT mind giving her baby away to her sister .

Anyone doing a script writing course shud see PR to understand WHAT shoddy script writing means . They set out to glorify the main lead and butchered her instead and now don't have the foggiest idea how to salvage it .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago

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