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Posted: 14 years ago
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As we all know, PR is taking a leap on June 16th 2011 and is moving to a new phase.
So, I thought why not pen down some thoughts of PR as a SHOW from start to till date.
This show has completed 2 years and 500+ episodes and is still strong on
the TRP charts. Its one of the highest rated shows right now.
So, give your opinions on the Show, characters, and plots till date. Have some episodes touched you, moved you. Have you hated some plots? Which characters have grown with the show, which have regressed? How has the plot progressed? Discuss all things PR.
I hope all of you will put forth your teekha, meetha, khatta comments.
This is NOT a appreciation thread. Barring bashing members, you can feel free to post your honest views. Some may agree, some may not, but I think that's the best part. If we simply press the "report" button and stop discussion, there is No scope for thought progession. We end up discussing with like minded people and in my opinon become stagnant.
Although, if feelings are hurt, please PM and ask the member to edit.
Thanks
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nice thread tiya.

I started liking the show for ArMan's innocense, their soft nature and the way they were loving their family. Initially everything was so good.
I used to love sachin's character, dont know y the CVs had to kill him😕
Never liked shravani much.

The track that i hated the most was the way Archana was treated at deshmukh's, so much harrasement. I really disliked savita, shravani and manav also then.

Later on the CVs started destroying each and every character including archana and manav.
Dharmesh was initially shown as good businessman, very practical but later was turned into villain.
Varsha and Vaishali's character is annoying and disgusting to even watch them these days.

Archana acts too foolish and always interferes in others life, which irritates me, she is not shown as a strong women, she is shown as someone with low self esteem.
Nobody can forgive anyone like how she does, its unrealistic.

Manav all these days was shown as someone foolish too, he never balanced his professional and personal life, i wont blame archana here as being a man who runs the house needs to have the sense as to how much to listen to wife, he should have been resposible enough to handle both professional and personal lives.
the CVs always showed manav failing in life and being thrown out of home.

Savita's sickness in itself was a mystery, and archana's cure for it another mystery😕
Archana was always coming up with whacko ideas and manav following her.
In this track more than archana i was irritated with manav, as atleast archana was having a thot of doing something to savita and help her get out of it but manav never initiated he used to respond to archana.
CVs again messed up the whole track here.

All the characters got butchered in this show, including manav, archu and satish.
Satish whom i used to like at some point of time, turned out to be a henpecked husband too and always siding his wife though she is wrong.

Well im liking present savita, manav. Archana's character needs a little change after leap atleast, she should be shown as someone strong and with brains, she needs to analyse who is wrong and who is right and then take their side atleast rather than being blind in sisters love.
I dont know when manav, Dk and ashna characters will be changed again.

I dont take this show all that seriously as none of the charactes are realistic according to me, if im happy with any character for a while then the CVs make me hate the character after a whie.
So i just enjoy watching this show in a daily basis and start liking and disliking characters as per how the CVs change the characters.

Well one thing im happy from the show is they have still kept the ArMan love for each other the same way.
The track i liked the most was manav and archana eloping, as i was happy they got back together. i know it wasnt right running from marriage hall, as i said when nothing is realistic and when all the characters have flaws so y bother much for their act.

I wouldnt be shocked with any track post leap, hav no good expectations out of CVs.
they always disappoint me with all the characters.
I like Ankita so i watch this show for her otherwise i wud have stopped watching it when the divorce track came up. I still hate that track.
Sushant, Ankita and Usha ji are fabulous actors, they make the characters real, they enact all the emotions so well. Excellent actors👏. All the best for them.
Edited by Ankifan - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks tiya, good topic...
Its really difficult to summarize for me all the happy, good bad moments which attached me to PR forever...
The backdrop of the show, which attracted me was different from other shows on TV, which kept me away from it...
Manav, hardworking guy, Archana hard working girl, dedicated themselves to their family...and how they started their liking for each other but were never vocal even after marriage 😆
I have all the memories of the show of the first 3-4 months, when the show was the best for me...

The happiest track was ArMan eloping, it was so adventuresome considering its ArMan 😍and ofcourse the time when Archana was in D house after marriage
The divorce track shook me like anything, we were trying so much to stop this...😡 which saddened me the most
And miscarriage track, that left tears in my eyes each time I saw Manav begging for his child, ArMan consoling each other and crying in lone...

Hated the trach was the Savita aai and Archana's track when every logic was thrown out of window 🤪

Till today PR and its Fab cast keeps me attached to them,

And you know I am loving the recent episodes where CV's are trying to shape Manav as a sucessful person due to all the virtues Manav possess, and utilizes them in rightlul manner rather than showing him Devta or Masiha kinda...
Now I can say I am eagerly looking forward for the leap in PR 🥳

I m sorry If i break any of the rules ?😕
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Tiya I have one more suggestion . I completely agree that IF rules shud be respected . Since calling A character 'shameless' or 'stupid' is regarded as bashing , we shud NOT use these words . We can instead use words like Wonderful Dharmesh did a WOnderful Deed . And Extremely Sensible Vaishu is gonna listen to him . This way tiya negativity will lessen and laughter will be on the thread .

This will keep us all strictly within IF rules . I vote for this .Please cooperate guys .
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

We can instead use words like Wonderful Dharmesh did a WOnderful Deed .
This will keep us all strictly within IF rules . I vote for this .Please cooperate guys . Sure 😃




Yes impregnanting two woman 😆😆 Extremely holy Archu is going to make sensible's vaishali's baccha very pavitra in samaj 😆
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Originally posted by: tiya229

Have some episodes touched you, moved you. Yes Last year wen dey showed not so bad ajit redeming & asking for forgiveness to den's holy archu & zimmedari baba manav

Have you hated some plots?Yes Holy's Archu's doctor threapy to her saas cum thodi devil savita, Holy Archu's not so sensible advice to her extremely sensible sissy vaishali, Holy Archu's very pavitra way of bootlicking of her both sisters. Holy Archu's manipulative thinking towards her sissy's bholi sauten madhuri. Extremely loyal damad manav's oiled fried rice feeding to her holy patni holy archu during her pregnancy.Holy Archu's carelessness during her pregnancy wich cost manav very holy amount of money spenting. Manav's fight with not so bad ajit coz of his not so smart partner shibu

Which characters have grown with the show, Not so bad Ajit

which have regressed? Holy Archu


How has the plot progressed? No - Holy Archu has been very convienently forgotton her miscarriage done by her holy maika & again started poking her holy nose into her sissy's extremely holy issue & starting screwing her holy cum bholi friend madhuri
& Yes- Now sensible Manav not at interfering in his holy sasural's matter Good move and Is looking after his normal deskmukh family only
😊




This are my veiws on PR till now
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks for the thread Tiya!

I was drawn to PR after seeing its first promo (I've written this raam-kahani in detail in 3-4 threads, so will be precise now) wherein I was interested to see how this semi-educated, poor mechanic would turn to be the knight in shining armour for the girl, and the girl would give him loads of love in return.

The story however, didn't progress like that at all. Not a single bit.

Many of the initial tracks were very good. But none of the tracks were used to their full potential, I feel. Somewhere every track was left incomplete.

The bonding after marriage was shown beautifully. The way Ajit framed Manav and Archana left him and went away was a very good twist in the fairytale story. It was like-- before you enjoy your togetherness, prove that you deserve to be with one another.

Unfortunately, that track didn't go like I expected it to go. It was a very boring, sad track, completely devoid of romance, very bland which was dragged on for weeks together. Pehle ghar chhodke gayi Archu, fir kapde le ke gayi, fir managalsutra, fir divorce papers, each step was shown so slowly and each time they did nothing but stare at each other and cry without speaking to each other. I used to wonder where the serial was going. I was also very irritated with Archu in those days, and secretly wanted a second lead heroine to fall in love with Manav and make Archu jealous. Also Satish came back in the story and that upset me too. For some reason, I've never liked Satish.

Till here, the story was veryyy slow.

Things piped up with the police complaint twist. The police complaint by Manjusha against the Deshmukh family was the BEST twist in the show. I was bowled over by that one. For the first time, BT had shown something slightly realistic. My knowledge about the whole thing increased owing to the forum discussion (thanks to Kools mainly for that) wherein it was pointed out EXACTLY WHY Savita, Vandu and Manav were beaten in jail and no one else. I had not expected BT to take care of such details. It amazed and impressed me. This track had a LOT of scope to show growth in the two characters- Manav and Archana, as well as the side characters like Sachin, Vandu, Vaishali and so on.

Unfortunately, that track too was handled miserably. Manav, the angry young man, impressed for a while but by showing Sachu's subsequent death, they sort of sidelined the whole issue. They made Savita a grieving mother, who was never punished for the abuse she inflicted on Archu. Later, the complaint issue was not handled properly. I never got to see the apology that I wanted to see from Manav or Savita's end for the way Archu was treated and harassed at the Deshmukhs.

Speaking of abuse, the abuse was one of the most sickening part of the story. I had wanted Manav to save Archu from abuse, but CV's never showed it. Sad.

Savita's poetic justice was another sickening track. Not only was it gut wrenching, but also completely devoid of logic. The way Ajit proclaimed that he had raped Vandu without any fear of the police arresting him was foolish to say the least.

Shravani's track was boring to say the least, and continued for a longer time than expected. The whole of the 3 month stay I waited for my Manav to shine, but he stayed fixed on his word to marry Shravani while I banged my head on the wall in frustration. Archu's character meanwhile started taking a turn for the worst.

This was just the beginning.

The divorce was the most shocking and worst twist in the tale. I had not expected it to happen at all. I remember I was at home then, and me and Mom were utterly shocked.

Somewhere it spoilt the pavitra rishta.

Post divorce, everything was managed in a silly manner. Foolish tracks, foolish subtracks. Tracks were started and ended midway. Kaka was bumped off for no reason (and it was suddenly disclosed that he was not a bachelor LOL) . Archu's miraculous degree and her being appointed to post of Supervisor seemed silly. What happened to the strike in Dharmesh's factory, the murder of two workers etc we never came to know. The leads were made to sink down more. Many others, like Varsha and Vaishali, whom I liked earlier, also were butchered mercilessly. Shravani was the only one who was not butchered until the very end, when her role was finally erased off. Whatever, Shravani's track was stretched like elastic and I got really really tired of it. The track could have been handled in more mature, adult like ways, but then I guess the drama quotient would have dropped- I still remember how excited we all were on the day of the reunion. Chalo, one thing that was good was that Manav didn't dump Shravani at the mandap, otherwise it would have spoilt Manav's character for me.

The only positive thing was Sachu!!! Adorable darling, muah muah (I miss him!)

Finally, the reunion happened. And it was the happiest time in PR for me. As always Ekta had to mess that one too and she did. Poverty, insults and misery- that's it. Savita's illness track almost brought me to hate Manav.

MC part made me hate Ekta like never before. It was the first time I actually shed tears for a TV show. The repercussions made me realize that villains in PR will never be punished.

Looking back, I really wonder how I stuck to PR inspite of this idiotic story .*scratching head*

The current phase of the story is really good. I'm really liking the new Manav, and PR post leap sounds even better. The little boy is really cute.

That was my review of the story. Now for the characters.

1.) Manav: Honestly speaking, he was my favourite when the serial started, and he's my favourite now too. However there's a difference in the two favourites. (Regular readers of my FF will realise this). I had expected him to be Archana's hero in the story, and I had always seen the story from those eyes. The CV's unfortunately, wanted to portray him as 'real', and they equated real with weakness, misery, poverty and helplessness at times. Despite that, Manav's character has made some difficult decisions and managed to shine in parts. There are errors at times, but overall, I fail to see any major discrepancies in his character. I find him a real character- with his own flaws and weaknesses. His rejection of Archana for Shravani, though wrong, was something most men would have done I guess, everyone would choose family over an unconsummated marriage of 15 days. Although I have to state here that I expected him to reconsider his decision, but the CV's showed it in that way that too much water had flown under the bridge by then, and he wanted Sachu in his family.

Similarily, he made other mistakes too, but nothing he did made me HATE him as such, except for the Savita track. The CV's portrayed him weak and helpless a lot of times but his good nature, his values, his simplicity, the ESSENCE of his character was retained throughout. His Mahanta irritated me a lot of times, and I didnt like the way he ignored his family and bonded with K's. But overall, two years later, I still like him. The current changes in his character are too good and I can't wait to see him post leap.

2.) Archana: This character actually remained somewhat as I had expected her to be. I somehow always expected Archana to be a soft character- the type who would forgive Ajit or her vahini when they apologized to her (and she did). The only difference was that I had expected her to grow stronger with time owing to Manav;s encouragement, which did happen at times, like when she refused for second marriage, or when she ran away from home, making her own decision, or when she fought for Manav. But just like Manav, I had more expectations from her, especially post reunion. Just like Manav, I hated her during Savita's illness track. Nowadays I have got used to her ways and her bias towards her family, plus I have stopped taking the serial to heart so I don't really let her actions get to me. Overall, I love Archu for her large-heartedness and her unselfish nature, but just like CV's were hell bent on trying to prove Manav as a loser (which I don't think he is, by the way) similarily they were hell bent on trying to prove Archana as a love sick female who was detached from the practicalities of daily life. Her pregnancy track and the way she behaved during it was disappointing to say the least- no excuse can be made for it. I really want to see some growth in her character, the way CV's are showing growth in Manav's.

Other noteworthy characters:

Savita: She emerged to be one of the most interesting characters since day one- villainish, yet humorous, and even her villainy was not the 'usual' villainy- there was a sort of back story to it, usually related to her poverty and the cold rough ways in which she had led her life- the ways which had made her money minded, a little greedy, controlling and abusive at times. The graph of her character changes with time, and there is always a deeper dimension to her character than the one that is shown. Analysing Savita is sheer delight. I hated her in the beginning, but with time, I started viewing her differently. I shed tears for her when she fell ill. In fact post ArMan reunion, I started sympathizing strongly with her.

Sulochana: She started as a very strong character, and I actually wanted to see more of Manav Sulo confrontations than Manav Archu ones (LOL) but then she lost steam during the 3 month stay. She did every thing that was totally against her character- she didn;t look out for her daughter Archu, she kept placating Manju, she placated Ajit and Rasika and served them sherbets in Varsha's engagement instead of throwing them out and so on. Overall, she disappointed me. Post reunion, she has been much much more disappointing. The part where she wanted Vaishali to go back to Dharmesh cos of the baby stunned me, cos the serial had introduced Sulo as someone with liberal thinking, the kind who had dragged Archu from her characterless husband's home and tried to educate her.Now, she is one of the people I hardly care about.

Varsha: She was one of my most favourite characters in the beginning. Ruined to the core.

Tarun: I liked him immensely! But poor Tarun never got his due in the serial. :-( To compensate, I gave him a plum role in my FF. :-)

Sachin: Had tremendous potential in the story. Killing him was one of the most drastic and unnecessary twists in the story.

Damodar: Totally disappointed.

Rest I don't feel like commenting on any one else. Waise bhi post bahut lamba ho gaya hai. 😆
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I will go on adding in this thread as and when I get time .

The BEST part for me was when Holy Archu force fed Shravani . The poor girl was crying out aloud she wanted to be left alone ith the people SHE liked ...her fiancee and her honewaali mother in law . But she had NO choice in the matter . Whenever she turned around Holy Archu was there with a benevolent smile on her face and a food tray , telling her that eating was NOT A CHOICE .

You gotta do it for the Pavitra BachCha , Holy Archu wud say beaming .

Nonsense ! Shravani wud scream . I want u to get out ! Don't feel like eating when I see ur holy face !

Too bad , coz u will HAVE to see it ...Holy Archu wud beam even more strikingly . Even in THIS u have no choice .

Poor Shravani wud not to know what to do with this holiness . She had never quite encountered anything like this in her entire life .Biting her knuckles she wud look here and there for a pen so she cud do her therapeutic exercises ...putting red ink crosses on the calendar to mark the few days left for the departure of Holy Archu .

But Holy Archu wud give her no choice even in THAT . She wud quickly pick the pen and go and do the crosses HERSELF .

I found this quite , quite wonderful and touching . The nobility warmed the cockles of my heart .


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Archana to me is a character destroyed: she WAS a nave idealistic, people pleasing, strong woman. When she got married and came to the deskhmukh house, she reminded me of a bird coming out of its nest and flying, discovering the world. Till there it was good. Watchable. Then came the second marriage: she slowly turned into a PEACOCK: beautiful but stupid: she turned into a teenage girl, incapapble of solving her problems, unable to separate her maika and sasural. She went to manav ALL the time, stripped him of HIMSELF and turned him into a man who thought with his d**K and "heart".

She treated her maika as she would her sasural: constantly forgiving them, taking their BS and involving into ALL of their problems. ALL say savita makes tamashas. I say archana CAUSES the tamasha, she causes them as she "forgives" all and doesn't DRAW a line. Family is ours, but when married sasral is MORE important. Always she stripped manav of his self-respect because SHE didn't put a stop to the insults by her family.

The latest is ; her working in manav's construction site and showing ALL the workers " Look !! This is love, working in places I don't know, feeding my husband, making him less of a man"… in a very traditional sense, how is ANYONE supposed to repect and fear a man, whose WIFE feeds like a 5 year old" is that what wife is all about?? Pretending to do work and feed husband. Why isn't this WIFE ignoring her family for the sheer unfairness belted out to manav and her dead child…

Thus, till now I watched archana go from a sheltered woman to a BIMBO with only "pee loon" romance and tailing behind her husband

Manav; a young man who worked hard to provide for his family. He was a young mechanic who wanted to own his garage: ie business. But one thing I have noticed about manav: he is better working under someone else. Then he knows that someone else incharge and he cannot screw it up like he does with his own business. See how well he works for girshji, DK?? See how he ruined his own business. Twice.

I liked that cvs showed that: there are two kinds of people: some who work best under someone else. They respond well to the demands placed on them: manav falls under that.

Then there are people who are determined to succeed: that's satish and dharmesh.

Manav's "businesses" were ruined twice by archana: once by that jewel fiasco. Then by the loan fiasco. Both cost him dearly: his mother and his child.

I think when I compare manav and archana as characters: manav has made mistakes and grown from it and has progressed: look at him determined to succeed, look at him moving on from the Ks, showing devotion to HIS family:the desshmukhs.

Archana has grown in love, but not as a woman or a character. She has just mastered the art of "forgiveness"

Will comment more on savita and sulochana. And the show…

Thanks to all those who participated, took the time to say something.

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Savita's sickness in itself was a mystery, and archana's cure for it another mystery😕


Vaishu's Divorce was a mystery and Archana's cure for it was a mystery too

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