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Posted: 14 years ago
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No guys I can't bring myself to see it .

Maybe it was a publicity stunt . Or maybe Sushant got them to cancel the second marraige track by putting his foot down . Whatever . Its gone now , that track bcoz of the furore in this forum that is read by CVs . Otherwise if u notice till that lady came and told Manav had been spotted in New Mumbai [ Vashi } , she mentioned that he was in a car with a lady .

That means that track HAD been there in CVS mind .

But they must have read the furore and Sushant must have taken a strong stand . They must have hurriedly retracted .

They are still doing a lousy job . Manav has been brought back ...to what ?

The same Fatichar life , the same insults by his saalis , the same getting milked dry by sasural for finances that never existed in his accounts in the first place ?

I mentioned in my blog in humor that everyone blames Manav for running away , but perhaps it was the only realism shown in the show after all . That its not just enuf that the wife is good personally ...he needs some normalcy in his life dammit . Manav's normal life ended the day he married Archana . Till the day before he married her he was a normal man .He was a simple hard working mechanic who earned enough to buy the ration of his house and was happy with his alive family .

He married her and everything changed . That ill fated SatyaNarayan pooja that never took off [ my mother always told me that a SatyaNarayan shud NEVER be left half way , it brings immense bad luck] brought a spate of bad luck in his life like we Maharastrians believe . His life was NEVER the same again .

Two years and two jailings with police torture [ the ratio is one jailing for one year] , innumerable insults by sasural , slaps , a dead brother and now a dead unborn kid , constant financial burdens of sasural on his poor head that leaves him stripped financially to help himself when he needs the dough badly ...like wanting money for the operation and not having it , emasculation by Archana's relatives ...the first thought that came in my head when I saw the runaway scene was Its a Wonder he didn't run away Before . Any Other husband would have . What happiness has this marraige given him ? By now THe Deshmukhs have lost two lives due to the Karanjkars . Sachin and now the baby that never came in this world .

How many more losses are they going to suffer ? The Karanjkars... ...Archana's family are fine ...alive and kicking , conveniently forgiving each other and hushing up all the insults a member of their family heaps on poor Manav , whether it 's their Manju or their Varsha...so long as its just that Manav who is getting insulted , its fine , they can go back to their lives the very next day . They are unjailed to this point ...whatever their crimes may be ...doing false police complaints , flicking gold jewellery by substituting false sets , framing someone for thefts , killing a baby morally by ignoring pleas for help .

Manav was criticized so much for not defending Archana enough in front of Savita earlier . But post remarraige Manav protected her VERY WELL . He took a firm stand that he and Archana were a package and left his mother . He refused to see her face or give her his address till she respected Archana and finally his stand brought the old lady to her knees . Archana entered that house with the respect that Manav demanded that shud be given to her ...with an aarti by Savita .

But Could Archana demand the same respect for Manav ? Just as it was Manav's duty to protect her from his mother , wasn't it her duty to protect HIM from HER Adam's family ? Could she give this messsage to her bitchy sisters that they were a Package and that HIS insult was HER insult ?

I never saw it . I saw her standing mutely in a corner with feeble protests and rushing to envelop those very sisters who walked all over her husband in just a span of two days the moment they insulted her husband .

So what I inferred as the moral of this story was

Don't let your maayka walk all over ur husband or he runs away .

Some may get angry ...very angry at me for saying so . They will say , So what our Archu did not suffer in this marraige ? Only Manav did ? Even Archu suffered .

True . But what to say . If she is not running away from this and liking it , she has a serious problem . Maybe Manav became sensible for some normal moments . For some time he became Shaana .

Manav was hated for going away . Do people who have miscarraiges go away ?Do people who have financial problems go away ?were the questions asked .

No they don't . But then they ONLY have a miscarraige or financial problem or two . They don't experience the roller coaster ride that Manav experienced that was called a marraige with Archana ...a ride that halted when his baby died . He jumped off the roller coaster and ran . By now that ride was so bumpity that even WE felt like puking . The only one who seemed to love this roller coaster with a wide smile on her face was Archana .

When nothing about Manav's marital life was normal , why was his reaction to that horrific death of his baby expected to be normal ? Had he led a normal night ?

Who was the one who left ? Was it only Archana's husband ? Or was it the baby's Father who left ? Can people understand that , ever ? For a new bond with Archana , Manav left the old bond with Savita . For the new bond he formed with his unborn child , Manav found he could indeed walk out on the bond with Archana so that he could grieve alone in peace to honor the newly formed bond with his child that never really took off in the real world .

It was the latter . Archana , sadly , was not that attached to the baby from the very beginning .She wanted it more for Manav rather than herself . She had given it away mentally to her sister even before the first trimester was over . She never was overtly concerned about it or worried for it . She only wanted Manav . She wud have been perfectly happy with Manav alone if he had permitted her to give the baby away to Varsha so that Varsha should be happy . Archana's real babies always were her sisters . She is a fulfilled woman maternally in that sense .

The baby finally made Manav take offense .

The baby has STILL not made Archana take offense . Neither has Manav's going away made her see red with her family . She is mad with GRIEF for missing her husband but she is not ANGRY yet ... ...yes , even yet , with her family for making her husband go away. She has STILL not probed in the whys of Manav's transformation . That somewhere along she emboldened her family so much with her constant forgiving attitude that they emasculated her husband till he cud take it no more and left HER . That just like Manav changed , she too needed to change and take offense .

That the Deshmukhs suffered a second loss due to her infernally spoilt self righteous family .

Loss of life is irrevocable . And so the transformations that follow are irrevocable too .

Loss of Sachin made Savita hate Archana so much that Manav had a hard time bringing her around .

The Cvs shud show that loss of the baby shud make Manav as unbending as Savita was in her grief and that till the end of this serial he should NEVER forgive his baby's murderers .

Maybe Manav finally understands Savita now . No one can condone losing babies .

Ideally this fury shud have been Archana's , as a mother . But no problem . At least one parent was shown having it .

If she seriously has slapped Manav a second time in this serial , I would have much preferred to see a scene where she sat on the steps of that very temple and slapped herself , repeatedly , for not taking his insults by HER family seriously enough ...that they went so unchecked and so far that she and Manav lost their baby .

Bye to this serial . Im never gonna watch an Ekta Kapoor show in my LIFE .

These are my ULTI KHOPDI thoughts . Please no one take offense .Ignore them . Let CVS read them , bas .











Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hai Kool Di,

Again a Nice post. 👏 👏

Yes, couldn't find fault with Manav for his rage against his child murderers. well deserved anger that was. very good and I want it to persist.
Good to hear that Horrible second marriage Track was given up.

Then totally agree with your below points.

The baby has STILL not made Archana take offense . Neither has Manav's going away made her see red with her family . She is mad with GRIEF for missing her husband but she is not ANGRY yet ... ...yes , even yet , with her family for making her husband go away. She has STILL not probed in the whys of Manav's transformation . That somewhere along she emboldened her family so much with her constant forgiving attitude that they emasculated her husband till he cud take it no more and left HER . That just like Manav changed , she too needed to change and take offense .

Truly Hope and wish that even my archu take offense for all this and do good in future epi's.
I wish a total resurrection in ARMAN's character.
whatever might be there tomorrow, their slap, hug , making up ,anything may be tomorrow.

But after that I wish them to be strong and have a tough heart also against those who were ungrateful and the reason for their baby's death.

I want both archu and Manav to cut off relation with varsha, manju and dharmesh. may be entire K's.Then I would be happy.

If archu support Manav in this,I would be so proud of my archu. Truly she has to.

Even today I was glad that she ignored varsha. In future epi's i want archu to give back more to varsha. Next time it should be archu who stops varsha at the door.

Edited by umayal - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hey Kools,

Totally understand your disgust and fury. I was besides myself when i saw PR after many da. ys today. I was working from home today as I was down wit cold and thus took the chance to see it and regretted it again and again,

Now even Savita is mellowed , Manav who got angry seems to have mellowed who is left? Can we ever hope Archana to be angry and take revenge. This is a lame pathetic, defeatist serial that propagates nonsense. Done with it.

Take care.. Anjali


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: goblue

Hey Kools,

Totally understand your disgust and fury. I was besides myself when i saw PR after many da. ys today. I was working from home today as I was down wit cold and thus took the chance to see it and regretted it again and again,

Now even Savita is mellowed , Manav who got angry seems to have mellowed who is left? Can we ever hope Archana to be angry and take revenge. This is a lame pathetic, defeatist serial that propagates nonsense. Done with it.

Take care.. Anjali



ByteMe was right . This serial shows one tamasha per week and one stupid undeserved apology in the next episode . This is the ratio . The latest was Manju being slapped in front of all and Vinod immediately apologising to her . If ur gonna apologise WHY slap . Same way , Manav fired those cruel monsters . Now he will apologise . Archana had slapped Dharmesh .She went to his house to apologise . Archana did one big tamasha with Manju for making Sulo work like servant .Then she ran to her house to hand her kids .

Since this serial lacks ANY credibility whatsoever , I dropped it . I hope MOST of us do . These CVS need a lesson of their life for writing such faltoo , unbelievable rubbishy stories .Even CHILDREN take more offense if their toys are snatched .


Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Kool , it is so nice to read something from you in the forum... You have no idea how much you are missed here ..
You know we have different opinions and views , due to various reasons ...I do completely understand that you look at this show in a very practical and realistc way ...
That is why I keep asking you to keep coming here ..If not for anything then for two reasons ...one is your favourite actor Sushant Rajput ...however bad the show is , it is giving him the oppurtunity to show his acting skills ...
You must have seen the whole part of how Manav loses his baby .Now tell me , where have you seen such acting in recent times ..
Or for that matter i n thelast 3 days even Ankita is doing a superb job ..
What can the actors do Kool...they can only do what is given to them and I think they are doing a fab job ...
So to encourage him and to support him , I think you should take interest in his work and promote him in any way you can ...
Secondly of course for all your friends / fans 😆 , and you know you have plenty of them ...
They will all be so happy if you just drop in every now and again ...
You are a very talented writer ..I don't want yo uto hide your talent .I want it to shine in a forum like th IF .So that is why I want you to come ... come and give your contrary opinion...Tear up the Cvs and whoever you think to bits ( for good reason ) ...but do write ..Don't stop ...
whenever you can make time then do drop in
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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While it is great to see Sushant again, I do not want to see him coming back and seeking forgiveness from everyone, he was in his right to break ties with those hypocrites and I was happy to see a new, wiser Manav emerge. It makes no sense to drop this storyline when it has so much potential. There is no reason why CVs can't drop the leap, Manav getting involved with another woman and having a child while continue showing him unforgiving towards those who did him wrong.


If it is true that Manav is back, I don't blame Archana for slapping him. Okay, Manav needed time to himself I get that but at least talk to her on the phone. When he finally answered Archana's call he disconnected her call, he didn't talk to her. Then there was the letter Archana got from Manav, it was just too much for her. Just look at her these days, she walks around in a daze and only reacts if she hears about Manav or Sachu. I know Archana's bond to her child wasn't shown as strong as Manav's but that doesn't mean she doesn't feel the loss. Right now Archana has a lot on her mind but I am hoping the CVs don't deprive viewers of a chance to see a side to Archana like we saw with Manav. Rasika, Manju, Dharmesh and especially Varsha shouldn't be given a free pass for what they've done.
Edited by bollywoodcrazed - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

He jumped off the roller coaster and ran . By now that ride was so bumpity that even WE felt like puking . The only one who seemed to love this roller coaster with a wide smile on her face was Archana .


LMAO... 🤣

Sorry just imagined Archana, her smile and the roller coaster.. haha..

Hai.. what has this serial gone to.. anyways... Point IS: Its almost Impossible to Ressurrect Manav now, the damage has been Done🤢
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Bravo Kools..👏You penned down my thoughts exactly..Nothing more to add. If I were manav I probably do the same to grieve and get away from all who crushed me especially the ILs.
I hope and pray Manav does not weaken himself and apologize to all. He might be kind to Archu but Archu must understand what has happened and react with anger. Her husband was insulted numerous times and enough is enough. she must take offense to it now.
I want to see Archana pushing the same package deal in front of her maiyka and cut it all off until all of them pay for their deeds.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Had Archana slapped Manav in front of her family and in front of her vahini and Dharmesh I would not support Archana in that at all. Better that she did it there then in the open.

Kool Di, it is great to see you here on this forum. As Tanya Di said, we are missing you a lot on the forum, and I agree with a lot of your points😊

I agree, Vinod did wrong in slapping Manjusha and few seconds later he asked for forgiveness. If he was goning to ask forgiveness, why not in front of everyone as well or why even slap in the first place when you will say sorry after a second? Manav will most likely apologize to Archana but I don't wnat him toaplogize to the Ks, the Ks have killed his baby and other than his wife, mother and father he should not keep relations with anyone. Just keep his sister and maybe Ajit but no Rasika. These Karanjkars must realize their mistake. Archana is way too soft on her maayka at times. I agree with Kool Di on that
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I hope that when Manav talked about forgiveness he meant Archana and his parents because they are the only ones he needs to apologize to since he had them worried about him. Other than that he owes nothing to anyone else. I am really going to hate it if Manav returns to his old ways and just gives Archana's family along with Rasika another chance, he has no reason to. Manav has gone out of his way to help those hypocrites and they couldn't give him money to save his wife and child.
I hope Archana isn't shown forgiving either. Right now I can understand why there is no reaction from her, she is in shock and is depressed. She doesn't pay much attention to what or who is around her unless it is a baby or Manav but I am hoping soon she is shown angry and hurt. Let her lash out at her family for their role in the hell she and Manav have endured. I will be very disappointed if CVs turn this into an all is forgiven track. I can still remember how desperate Manav was and how cold everyone was to him. The writing needs to improve, especially now that Ankita and Sushant have voiced their opinions about future storylines. With rumors of Sushant considering leaving PR, it should definately come as a wake up call to the CVs
Good to see you back Kool, I've missed reading your posts

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