Dharmesh Business Man or Dictator?

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I agree that Dharmesh has rights to lay off the workers and it is commonly exercised technic now a days. He has a new m/c, so he wants to save money. Fair enough!

But I didn't see any logic in removing Manav unless his reasoning says he doesn't LIKE him...
If his reason was that Manav created disturbance in the company, then I didn't see Prakash receiving pink slip.

If the reason is that Manav voiced for the workers regarding the faulty machines, then it makes Dharamesh more as mean business person than a practical one.

If the reason is he was Archana's ex and could create the problem in future, then he appears to be unprofessional. By the way, he was the one to propose this alliance...

Apart from all the illogic, Manav was considered one of the best worker but still Dharmesh gave him pink slip...where is his practicality here? Usually companies retrench new joinees and unproductive workers. Manav is neither of that. In case of Ajith although he was productive, he is a new joinee. But it is a ruthless act to remove an employee when he met accident at the workplace and he has no alternatives in his life. HRs do consider these matters when they decide to downsize. Dharamesh behavior was more of a dictatorship than a practical businessman.

For god sake, he distributed bonus to all the workers saying company was doing well. It is one thing to remove employees when company is in loss but it is sheer mean business mind to remove people when they 'appear' to be not useful anymore without proper arrangement. I know, he gave grace period for these workers to find the job, but it is very difficult for people in such low skill level to find the job.

I have seen it happening with my close relatives and friends. I may sound socialist but Satish was right morally. Technically Dharmesh may be right but such acts will taken him only to short distance in his life. Good will will always prevail...

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hmmmm.... interesting post.

This gives a different perspective to all that on which we were debating yesterday.

I would like to read the views of those who have knowledge of rules, redundancy laws etc. regarding this. Cos I don't really know a lot.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Firstly,Ajit has every alternative in life n is actually a graduate with decent enuf education.He met with an accident,but he has no alternative is not an excuse to be considered by management.Ajit is responsible for his self.
however,cruel it may sound but if I dont hav the required expertise,I cant go on expecting companies doing me favours on emotional front and employing me as I dont hav any other expertise.Having expertise is solely the responsibility of a employee.They need to sell themselves in the dynamics of the job market instead of cringing about the unfairness of it all.People gain expertise and shift companies to earn better salaries...they try to keep themselves up with the every changing demands of their job.
Rather,if Dharmesh continues to employ ppl bcoz they hav no alternative,his business will go down in a matter of just months.
Btwn,he doesnot hav a very big factory or company to start with tht he can actually afford many alternatives...worker count is quite less.And they have no HR is his company.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Satish being morally correct is of no good use to anyone around.Actions matter in work life,intentions dont.Client wants to see the outcome and he pays u for that.
Dharmesh,from what CVs have tried showing in their messy way,is a practical and sound businessman.
Job security is not guaranteed in private sector in India.If u opt to work in companies,u shud accept it with pros and cons.
Workers were shared bonus.When their expertise is of no use,the company management is not obliged to entertain them on humanitarian grounds.Its upto the individual to keep up with the need of the hour rather than the company bothering about how he will earn if we throw him out.
Its not a good thing.People suffer.But life is not always fair.U hav to stay on ur toes and keep urself up-to-date with requirements of ur job.If not,u have no one else to blame other than urself.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: gaurimisha

Satish being morally correct is of no good use to anyone around.Actions matter in work life,intentions dont.Client wants to see the outcome and he pays u for that.

Dharmesh,from what CVs have tried showing in their messy way,is a practical and sound businessman.


Job security is not guaranteed in private sector in India.If u opt to work in companies,u shud accept it with pros and cons.


Workers were shared bonus.When their expertise is of no use,the company management is not obliged to entertain them on humanitarian grounds.Its upto the individual to keep up with the need of the hour rather than the company bothering about how he will earn if we throw him out.


Its not a good thing.People suffer.But life is not always fair.U hav to stay on ur toes and keep urself up-to-date with requirements of ur job.If not,u have no one else to blame other than urself.



Yes, I do agree companies takes such measures but only when they ran out of other options. No company will remove workers just like that. Here it was shown Company is doing well and what not, Company is planning a big Ganapathi 'Celebrations'. Does it really justify removing the workers at one end and partying at the other end....? Moreover, the machine has not yet arrived in the company. No one has tested its production capability.

But still it did not answer firing Manav. He was as productive as anyone can be, he was sincere and has a reputation that he is the best in the field.

Ajit having an educational degree is not the alternative I was talking about. He has got injured at the workplace. He was not paid any compensation too. Will any company 'hire' him when he goes and asks job with his 'injured' hand?

By the way, we are talking about workers not 'white collar' jobs. These workers work for their life in the same company doing same kind of low level job. Their experience rarely fits in another company.

So Dharmesh has to pay them for not doing any work? NO. He could do many of the following
Consider them using them for other work in the company.
If company is growing big, keep them for future use.

If they have to be removed them,
Give them severity compensation.
Give them enough time to look out for job.
Give them a prep training so that they are ready to go out.

You may ask, why would company spend money on these? Yes companies have to because those workers have worked and were part of success of the company and it's existence. Just because it is a private sector it doesn't give them free pass to fire at will.

I am not saying, Dharmesh should keep them as a charity but he acted as a mean business owner than a practical one...that's my point.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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even i dont understnd y he removed manav. i feel he doesnt wanted archana,jay and manav in same office to avoid any kind of problem. he had warned manav to stay away from archu but again he saw dem tlking, so must b just to avoid dat. but i find dharmesh a business man not a dictator.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I wont blame him for removing Manav .Manav has been more of a nuisance to him , and he can easily get anyone with his skills .We dont see evidence of Manavs skills benefiting the company or anything .Manav stirred trouble in his company .Just being Archus lover boy and HONEST and POOR does not make Manav immune to rules . If by their priority list he fits the requirements that shortlist him for retrenchment , so be it .

Dharmesh has hired Manav TWICe and waived his loan .Manavs rudeness was deplorable. He is the company MALIK and Manav talked like that in FRONT of all workers , not even privately .ANYONE wud SACK manav after that , forget retrenchment .For Sheer insubordination .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I think that from th humanitarian point of view manav was right but I agree with Kool that he was way too rude to Dharmesh .
Dharmesh gave him his job back when he smashed a co worker 's head only because of a personal reason .
Then Dharmesh also let his loan off..Invited him at home , made his nephew the little Krishna in the party ..That is all giving izzat to the man ...
It was Dharmesh who lent him 3 lakhs in the first place not Girish ...
Because of all this , the least manav could have done was not call him a ganwar in front of every one ...
Archana tried to stop him but Manav has a very nasty temper ...
She again tried to tell him to control his temper but he just told her to stay away and that there is nothing that she can do ....😡
Edited by Tanyaz - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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at the place that i work, we have union so in case my workplace is deciding to lay off people then they have to go by seniority list ..... depending on who was hire first .....

in this case yes dharmesh has right to laid off people but he needs to give them advance notice and he doesn't have right to choose people .... like choiceright said

If they have to be removed them,
Give them severity compensation.
Give them enough time to look out for job.
Give them a prep training so that they are ready to go out.

but i think dharmesh is just being mean he is deliberately doing it ..... he doesn't like manav so its obvious that he choose his name .... and i don't see why he has to let go off this people when the company is doing so well ..... i know he bought new machines and stuff but is it really necessary???

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Not only Manav was rude to FBD but he was quite nasty to Jaywant when everyone was signing petition of something...Instead of Manav talking to Manager Archu he was yelling at Jaywant pure out of personal anger and frustration of Archu being engaged to Jaywant...BTW manav has a hot temper uncontrollable at times...

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