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Posted: 15 years ago
@ Mitts, Akash, Tanya, and all else less agitated:
As you know, I don't enter into debates on who's right and who's wrong because everything that happens in serials is just a ploy to construct and lengthen episodes that are raking in money for BT/ Zee/whoever. What I will comment on, though, is whether the characters we see are good or bad examples for the men and women watching them, particularly young people who can be unconsciously but powerfully influenced by the messages imparted. And while Manav is a good son and brother, he is definitely not a good example as a husband at this point. Partly this skewed system of values is a result of the way Indian families have traditionally been structured: the (outsider) daughter-in-law's needs are always given the lowest priority. DILs who agree with and accept / internalize these values, as Archana does, are "good", and those who don't, like Manju, are "bad". Of course, Manju has all sorts of malicious tendencies that more contemporary / liberal viewers could quite justifiably call bad too, but her first and most vicious "badness" as far as this serial is concerned is not her malice, but rather her inability to put the wishes of Vinod's family before her own. It's terribly unfortunate that televsion serials, which command such a huge and captive audience, so often present the most dangerous and regressive values.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: -ALI-

Second time when she said that archu is no one to advise her. What was wrong in that? When Manav had already said her to take care of herself, there was no need for archu to repeat that again when she knows that SV does not like them together. But no body sees that he went to her and apologised for that. No one praised that. Regarding Archu is archu, then manav is manav too. He respects sulo like archu respects savita. What savita has done with her everyone is pointing out. But what karanjkars have done with manav, no one is saying that. If manav is NO MAN, then there is no man in whole show. Is damodar a man who kept quiet when his wife was insulting his so called daughter. Is kaka a man. Is manohar or VD a man.

Ali, some of us did praise Manav for his kind gesture towards Archana. There is a thread praising Manav for this and other actions of Manav on that day. This was first time Manav came up to Archana, cared for her sentiments and openly talked abt it. It was very kind of Manav but maybe some members think its too little too late and hence didn't praise it so much.
What Savita has done with Archana everyone points out coz its what we see everyday and its real abuse without any misunderstanding.
Karanjkars (Sulochana) has done only 3 things to Manav -
1)slapping him on the say of puja and calling him characterless, with all the powerful evidence even Savita kept quiet, even Manav's family couldn't defend and vouch for Manav that day, how can we blame Karanjkars.
2) Not giving phone to Archana when Manav called from jail coz Archana was getting engaged to Satish according to her, she didn't want to spoil that day by letting Manav talk to Archana, besides Manav didn't even clearly say that he was calling from jail
3) Asking Manav family to leave on day of Varsha's engagement coz they were helpless against Bhavna's demand and wanted Varsha's engagement to go through.
There was justifiable reasons behind Sulochna's action but yes she should categorically ask for forgiveness for all these mistakes. Just going to Sachin's memorial for offering condolences , supporting Deshmukhs when Damodar was missing after blast and inviting them for Varsha's engagement
and giving them all the respect are not enough . We expect more from Karajkars coz they are sanskaari people.
Edited by Arien_03 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
OK I went in morng with 2 replies n come back to see 13 pages.. Must be somevery interesting conversation... Even though precap seemed interesting but Manav has long way to go...
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Akashspartan

@Meeti,


</div><font color="#666600">But in my opinion Manav is NO MAN.. So what he fought Ajit??? How does that make him any better??
</font><font color="#000000">Well let me refresh you he even fought for Archana saved her from the clutches of bad people when her supposed fiance dumped her he stood for her!
What more status he has with Archana time and again he did things which is gone with the wind!


Any brother in his place would have done the same thing, he was a protective husband even in Varsha's engagement he made sure that Archana dosen't feel the pinch of coming or meeting that person who created rucksus in her life!



<font color="#6600ff">Yeah he is a COWARD I have no doubt on that... He is scared of standing up for his wife n fighting with his disgusting MOM n would be WIFE.... He is just a small puppy who is waiting for his Mama's orders to do all work... Manav hasnt at all done anything to prove that he is a MAN
<div><font color="#000000">He his a coward just because he his not standing up for his wife, i believe you must be a feminist you should get into his shoes then u would understand what it takes too see you loved one humiliated, time and again but one helpless than him!
Its easier sait than done honey since we don't have such situations around us, so its easy to point fingers at the man!
Manav is such a character that he gets humiliated time and again but forgives so u r right that takes him beyond the category of Man, no man would have taken so many abuses!</font>
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I mention b4 he wasnt but now he is coward... See I m a big Manav Lover.. I love Manav a lot n I have no doubt that he is nice or no.. Ofcourse he is gr8... I m not feminist yaar.. I m thinking as a girl u leave ur whole life n go to a man's house take his family as urs.. And least u expect is some respect n support from him.. Archu have done all.. All possible she can do.. yeah she made a mistake b4 but she had pain in full n now she doesnt deserve such punishment... manav is going wrong way.. Its height time her stands up for ARchu n fight for her respect its the least Manav can do for What Archu has done...
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: muneera19

<font color="#9933cc">Mitts.. relax yaar!!
everyone knows Manav is mommy's little boy!! still got some hopes he will stand up for Archu one day!! but i don't know when that 'ONE DAY' is gonna come...</font>



I m tired of waiting for that day Muneera thats y opened this topic..:p
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Posted: 15 years ago
@ Mitts (or Meeti, is that right?)
Is it so wrong to be a feminist ? I notice that when Akash levels the "allegation" at you, you back away and deny it immediately. I'm really interested in reading your definition of feminism if only to better understand your need to distance yourself from it.
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Posted: 15 years ago
Yea its Meeti.. (I dono ur name..Sorry)


NO there is nothing wrong in being feminist.. Whats wrong with that.. I answered back coz this post is not an attempt near feminism... Its a common sense.. If men can me typical males den y cant a women can be typical female..
But point of view of this post was not supporting a particular gender but Its a woman's right.. We r talking about Pavitra Rishta.. The Bond of marriage... manav is going against the whole concept n this post is outcome of that frustration...
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Posted: 15 years ago
"point of view of this post was not supporting a particular gender but Its a woman's right.."
OK, assume I'm really dimwitted and explain the difference between these two to me.
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Posted: 15 years ago
@Arien: so you are comparing savita with sulochana? Who said that i am comparing these 2. No way. Sulo is FAR FAR FAR FAR BETTER THAN Savita. If you wanna compare her then compare with Manju . Who started all the mess? Archanas in laws. I know what he is doing is LITTLE LESS but its NOT OVER YET. Is it? Picture abhi baki hai Mere dost. He has just started to stand up. Give little time. He will confess his love in front of everyone. But what MANAV SHOULD DO NOW? I MEAN HE HAS JUST STARTED QUESTIONING HIS MOM. SO WHAT NEXT. SHOULD HE GO TO MISS PREGNANT AND SAY " HEY BABE LISTEN TO ME. I PROMISED TO MARRY YOU. BUT MY WIFE IS BACK SUDDENLY AND I WANNA LIVE WITH HER. YOU DO WHATEVER YOU WANNA. IF YOU LIKE YOU SUICIDE OR ABORT THAT BABY AND DIE. I DONT CARE BECAUSE MY WIFE IS BACK. Tell me guys, what should he DO NOW?
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Posted: 15 years ago
Well ok

See feminist is too extreme word.. Feminist means that a woman think that she is better to Man.. They think Men are not powerful enough for nething..

ANd Woman's right
Its a basic concept... Like getting respect.. Or Being treated in a human way..

See What I m trying to say is that I m not saying Archu should get all n should be made Queen of world No thats not what I m saying... I m just saying as a husband is Manav's duty to protect his wife's respect Like the other day Archu did in engagement.. She left her own sisters engagement for her hubby bcoz he was disrespected.. ANd on other hand inspite of giving her heart n soul to Manav's family Archu is not getting any kind of respect.. Not even acknowledge for the fact that she is suffering all this torture to keep Manav n his family out of Jail instead she is thrown out of house time n again n Manav doesnt do anything for her.. Does her???

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