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Posted: 15 years ago
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1. he should not have explained himself to Shravani only hours after Archana's accident , what the hell did he do . He only bought an injured woman and out her on the couch . Why did he have to explain even that to her . He did not owe her that answer . He is marrying her as a compromise , he does not owe her to be in love with her .
How could he even think of Shravani after watching Archana in that state .I was expecting him to be way too disturbed . Who the hell told you that he told this to Shravani becoz she owes love to him, he told her that only becoz he didnt want Shravani to think that he is doing all this becoz he luvs ARchu and then shravani might refuse for marriage!!!! He wasnt thinking of shravani, he just didnt want her to know truth..


2. I definitely was hoping that this man will not be able to sleep a wink all night and just stand guard to Archana , even if he has to do it from his room.
Few months ago I burned my hand badly ( third degree burns ) , my husband was in another country , all night he kept smssing me and calling me , he could not sleep for 2 days just because he knew I was in a lot of pain and could not sleep . And I swear he is not even a very romantic person by nature but just the thought of me being in pain ...he just could not sleep even though he was in another country for work .
Tha tis what I expect a caring husband to feel . He should feel the pain his wife is going through . I did not see Manav feeling that pain .
If all was well b/w Archu and Manav, MAnav wud have done the same, infact more than that... The relation b/w ur hubby and u thankfuly is very sweet and strong, but ur husband and his family hasnt gone to jail, hasnt seen all hatred around.. Your hubby isnt in situation of Manav naa!!! manav wants to show her love, but he is limiting himself as much as possible in front of Atrchu more than shravani...

3 . I expected to see him making better arrangements for Archana and not to allowe her to sleep all alone in the room. Yes, thats why i said that i expected MORE from him..


4. I am not expecting any kisses from him but when he saw her in so much pain , I definitely expected him to just forget about everything and try reach out to her , even if it was for a fleeting second . U didnt notice whrn manav was brushing and glass fell he just ran towards her and made her feel comfortable.. U didnt notice when archu fell and was lying on bed, he hold her face with his hands affectionately trying to bring consciousness in her..


5. I did not expect him to keep looking over his shoulder as to if Shravani is feeling insecure or not , only because he is feeding an extremely injured and hurt woman her medicines . Its not just abtshravani, he doesnt want Archu to realise that he loves her so that she moves on with her life... He did say to her mom to shut up and that was spontaneous out of his heart, not mind. And then to justify himself, he said that he did this becoz of insaaniyat.. Didnt u see he couldnt control himself after seeing Archu in such situation and went inside and started crying!!!!!


I hope u dont mind if i was too straight forward..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Ok, I give you the points 4 and 5 .
I see your point there .


As for 1. I still don't think he owes Shravani any answers as to why he is looking after his injured wife . By giving Shravani an expanation, he is insulting his wife Archana , making her as if she is some other woman in the relationship.
As for point no.2 ....even he knows that Archana had nothing whatsoever to do with the police complaint . And if his family got a few dandas , it was still nothing compared to the ongoing abuses, mental and also physical at times that Archana is subjected to all the time from his mother. Their toture lasted for only 2 days ...Archana's torture has no end . She even had to witness him putting sindoor on another woman .


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Archana's has no end


Whose responsible??? manav?? if yes, then equally archana.. When that jewellery epi took place, manav stood for archu and after that archu said u dont need to stand forme. She herself let Savita get over her!!!!


I am leaving for moment, but wil be back after 1 and half hour.. Bye , TC. and dont mind plz..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc

@akash:

Don't get me wrong yaar, I have all the sympathy for Manav. Even I understand that he is in a catch 22 situation. It is difficult for him to turn back now when a girl's honour and life, his brother's son's life and family's happiness is at stake. If he is shown selfless, it totally goes with his character, even I don't expect him to come running to Archana in one day saying you are more important to me than family. In fact few Indian boys, in the first year of marriage, would take such a big step- to dump their family in the time of need and stand by the wife.


What I meant by saying 'old Manav' was the ideal husband concept that they have shown ever since the beginning of the serial. He was always depicted as a person whom ganpati bappa sent for Archana to help her in all troubles of life- her future husband, her life partner and her biggest strength. That is what attracted me to this serial- even though he was not educated or rich, he was still the type of person who would be the ideal husband for ANY girl. Lovers bahut dekhe hain yaar... par aisa husband nahin dekha jo shadi ki pehli raat apni wife ke saath bartan dhoye... apni SIL ke liye FD banaye saying they are my responsibility... MIL ko dahej na dena pade isliye khud haar kharid ke laye... he was a perfect husband. Any girl would have been proud to have him. Unfortunately, right now his situations are such that this ideal husband has been forced to take a back seat and the ideal brother and ideal son have taken its place.


Now, I agree that he is a wonderful lover, he accepts it himself that even though he is marrying shravani, he will never be able to get Archana out of his system, but there is a BIG difference btw a husband and a lover. SECURITY! An ideal husband should be able to provide security to his wife, not let her suffer. Unfortunately right now, bcoz Manav is being the ideal son and brother, he is not able to fulfill this important duty of a husband... dekha na Archana ka kya haal ho gaya hai us ghar mein. His Aai abuses Archana... he does not say anything coz he wants her to hate him... he is thinking about her only... but this is a sign of a lover... a husband wouldn't have done that.


A lover loves without responsibility or rights, a husband has both responsibility and rights. And right now, this is what is not entering into Manav's head- that Archana IS his responsibility, she needs him much more than Shravani. He doesn't realise that making her hate him is not sufficient, coz the girl is truly in love with him and can never hate or forget him.


And that is why, right now Manav is a silent lover. Not the ideal husband... coz every girl wants her husband to be an ideal son, ideal brother, great human being etc. but if it does not provide them security, if the husband chooses to be selfless sacrificing his wife, then how is he the perfect life partner?


And so when I say, I want the old Manav back, I mean to say that I want that 'perfect husband image' back. I want him to hold Archana's hand in public and say that he cannot fulfill his responsibility by leaving his wife in the lurch, that she counts more to him that anything else.. I want him to blast Savita for her wrong-doings and prove that he can go against his family for his wife. I want him to apologize to Sulochana and prove that he is not egoistic, he accepts his mistake and for the sake of his wife, is ready to apologize to his in laws for it.


When this happens, I will proudly say that the old Manav is back... that he has passed the biggest test of his life as a husband... he went against his responsibility (as a son and brother), his mother, his reputation (people will call him selfish) to be with the woman he truly loved and who loves him too and to do justice to her. And if this doesn't happen, I'm off this serial


As Ali says, patience is required. Waiting for that day.


So you see, along with Manav I'm also in a catch-22 situation. I understand him, but I want him to get back to the mould of a perfect husband and get back to Archana, coz I want him to be happy and that will be possible only with a girl like Archana and not with that selfish bimbo Shravani. He needs Archana 100 times more than she needs him, bcoz Archna had a lot of well-wishers, but Manav has only one- his Dad. All his life he has been thinking of others, he deserves a wife like Archana to pamper him and love him and make him feel special.


So that is why I say I love Manav, I am his fan... but right now I am not his supporter. I hope I have my stand clear now.




@Nikki,


Well said and well written infact, i completely endorse your views, your stance against Manav.
Let me tell you something which i have seen and heard, we live in a society where most of the guys are mama's boys.
Its always been a conflict b/w Mom and DIL, who has the upperhand. Mom feels that she holds more ground, but wife dear feels she has more rights has she is legally married to the man of her life.
So its boys who are always caught in the crossfire, you told that the day he holds Archu's hand and blast his aai for things what she has done to her. I believe thats not going to happen at any cost, call it emotional attayachar or emotional blackmailing by mummy dear's.


Things have changed i keep telling this, the old Manav was Archu's Manav. Now that he has given his word he his no more bonded with Archu.


Time is the best healer, remember the family has gone through a lot off lately. The entire family member's hold Archu for the disaster. Too an extent Manav used to hold her responsible, and Savita aai she is not going to forgive her at any cost.


Love has taken a back seat, if he wishes to help he can't, because it would send a wrong signal to the family members.
As there was lof discussion about the trust factor off lately, so the bone of contention lies here that both have caught in a very bad situation.
Archana coming back to Manav's place was bit too late that's what i believe!


i have a quote:- Think twice before leaving a space in someone's HEART. Someday it would be painfull to realize how much you miss that space when you decide too go back and find someone's taken your place!
So i understand what your trying to tell.
i am with Ali when he says Patience is the virtue, you get a chicken by hatching it not by smashing it.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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After saying and writing so much on this whole issue , all I will say finally is what Ankita said , ' If you love her then prove it otherwise be quiet '.
That's it , nothing more to say from me .
She has definitely proved more than what we were expecting . She has put him over and above everyone . She is suffering from immense emotional and physical pain all because of him and that too without any appreciation or thanks ...no one even thanked her for saving vandita as to everyone was so quick to blame her for Sachin.


She has done her bit , it is his turn now . Prove your love or just stop saying that I still love this woman .....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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He will do that with time,

Few glimpse were shown when she had the fatal fall, he wept but people call it crocodile tears.
For me that was love in what ever manner, i believe till date he hasn't said or done that would have hurted Archu the most.
Men yaar they don't open so easily, it takes time. They all are pretty laid back.
Men will be Men, so please don't take it as male chauvinism.
Archu has done but only when she was pushed to the corner, if she had done it without being cornered who knows even Archu would have been sailing in the same boat of Manav.


All is well that ends well, and Arman reunion and we PRians get to see the old magic reliving with time.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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At this present situation I think its diff to blame either Archana or Manav....both r victims of fate or shld I say Manjusha nd Savita's pawn in a game where both these woman want to pull their strings according to their benefit, the former in her attempt to absolve her brother as well as her eternal wish to see Archana suffer nd the latter to gratify her ever growing desire for wealth even at the cost of her son's happiness.

Manav nd Archana are soul-mates, born to love each other.....but they equally love their family nd will never go against them, even if it means leading a barren life, God made them this way......nd maybe that's why they suffer so much, both with equanimity

Both are destiny's children.....nd m sure some day they will find the courage to fight this together nd I hope till then it's not too late.

I know I've digressed quite a bit frm the topic but this is how I feel.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@akash: Arey akash, I'm saying exactly the same thing that you have written... Manav is not bad, he is very very good... and his situation is perfectly understandable. Its been 6 months into this relationship and he has to make the choice of siding with his family of 31 yrs or his wife of 6 months. So like most 'good' Indian boys, his spontaneous decision would be to go with his family, even if he doesn't like it. The husband is overruled by the son and the brother

But at the same time the lover and husband in him is alive and it keeps pulling him towards Archana. It is very very difficult for a person like Manav to go against his own family, society, his own responsibility, everything for a person whom he loves. In a way, the creatives are being realistic if they show him coming to Archana slowly... realising that both of them are made for each other and even if he has to take the most difficult decision of his life, he will have to do it for the sake of Archana. completely realistic and it would make more sense to see Manav fighting with himself, to see his turmoil about what to do, and then finally to see him put Archana over everything else and side with her. It is, i believe, the biggest victory and respect for any wife, when her husband goes against his blood-relations of all these years, who brought him up, to hold the hand of his wife and make her feel secure.


The only thing I am sad about is that in all this I am missing my old Manav and want him to return soon.


@Tanyaz: Agree about the responsibility part. I wrote about it myself in my earlier post that he needs to realise Archana is also his responsibility and he has to fulfill that responsibility.


@Ali: agree with you. Even though I was expecting more from Friday's episode, but still what I saw didn't anger me.


Edited by nikitagmc - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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i totally agree pavitra rishta rockssssssssssssssssss
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Akashspartan

Oh Niki u turn again,



I am the die hard fan of Manav, still i feel strongly that its the situation which needs to be blamed for the catostrophe.

His love for Archu hasn't changed with time he his still cares about her.

But one most need to understand that he his placed in a precarious situation of sorts.

An unborn baby in the wings, a girls honour dignity at stake.

He hasno otheroption right now he has choosen the responsiblity over Love.

One needs to get into his shoes to understand, may be i am expectind few rotten eggs and tomoatoes thrown at me for saying this.😵

But i will stand for Manav i think the man has the courage to do it......

@Tanya

i know u would never buy this concept,🤔

its unfortunate but thats how it goes.................😔





If i was in Manav shoes i would pull psycho girl aside and say, listen when i committed to you, i thought my wife was not in love with me and she was responsible for landing my family in jail thus causing my brother to be killed, although i know for a fact it was really your dad's phone call that really did it. But seeing as i am so dense i chose to believe what my aai was rambling on and on, cuz she wanted me to marry you to get her hands on house and car and jewels.
But now that i know for sure that she is innocent beyond a doubt and that she really loves me for eternity, i cant marry you anymore, i just cant. After all i didnt tell you to go sleeping around before you were married, and seeing that you are so far along it is apparant that you did it before you knew you were getting married to sachin. This sort of behavior is unheard of and frowned upon in this society. So why the heck i should be the one to get you out of this rut. You are an educated girl and your father got money. I think you should go to america or somewhere far and have you baby and settle yourself.
My wife is a virgin and she never played around, and if i want babies, Archana will be the one giving them to me. So lady there is the door, take a walk through them and mind you DONT LET IT HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT! And from now on i am goin to be the man i shouldve been long time back, and if ever i want any sort of manly advice i will ask my father.

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