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Originally posted by: Nature-Happiness
Actually speaking, they have butchered Babita's character long back. By now, I have been used to watching it. But, frankly speaking, I don't understand how this has been portrayed as a mother trying to hide this fact from the world! If I remember, Babita has raised her voice a lot on such matters. I still remember how she was getting trained in karate, so as to fight those roadside romeos, who were trying to misbehave with Preet. She slapped them, and hit them black and blue.
Even in the case of Ashok. Whenever he slapped Mini or tried to harm her, she would never tolerate. And then she slapped him, one fine day. I don't understand, how did they forget about this? Do the CVs have memory loss or something?
Though, one thing, such mothers definitely exist in our country. All those girls who have been through hell in their lives, have always feared to share with their mothers, at particular, fearing they would retaliate....
Bold 1- the babita they are talking about here was the one who lived at the khuranas. And she 100% would not have wanted to cause any issues by making a big issue about it. She did tell beeji (as we found out in the next episode) but beeji also told her to be quiet about it because it’s About lovely’s in-laws. beeji said this and she also didn’t tell dadu at the time.
It’s not an insult to babita. She was a wife living without her husband in her in laws house and she did all she could do, she went and told beeji. What else could she do if beeji also didn’t want to take it further? Should she go against her mother in law and tell everybody about the abuse? Can you imagine lovely’s reaction when u think about how badly lovely treated babita in the first few episodes and babita was just quiet all the time, not defending herself.
Bold 2- this is the babita after leaving the khurana house. She was stronger and stood up for herself a bit more. She also stood up to other people. While she was living in khurana house she wasn’t someone who had much of a voice but this all changed after what happened with ashok. if mini had told THIS NEW BABITA then ofc she would have reacted differently.
Babita did change compared to the person she was when she lived at the khuranas house. She WAS weak when she lived there, but it’s not her fault. She was married off at 18, left by her husband and forced to live by people who treated her not very well. Babita, as a mother, can only do so much when she’s living without the support of her husband and living with her in-laws (especially in laws like lovely). Luckily she became stronger and learned up to stand up for herself more, but she weren’t always that way was she?
I don’t see it as an attack of babitas character. It’s an attack of the mindset of people of that generation and the generations before.
Even if it was old Babita they're talking about😊 then to child Abuse isn't something only three person can keep to themselves 😒 she told beeji and that women did nothing"? She didn't told even Dadu"? What's that make her here then"? if they are as such why to whitwash them in season-1"? and Honestly even if Babita did nothing more then that I am sure the women won't have been so devoted to old lady old men after that incident at all, and I am sure the wedding day she may pointed out this incident to, cause that was day she was letting out everything, even with Ashok when she was telling him they were your family not mine yet I was here for you. She would have talked about this"! But no she didn't then how we are supposed to accept this was happen to
but the way they shown"? More then Ashok Betrayal it was their Taking side of ashok hurted her.
"The line he's our son and she's is just DIL.
I am failing to put in Word the way they're showing her to be taking it to lightly or forgetting it I just cannot pin point it in word.🤔
"In past there was no mentioned of Lovely and her in laws , like they don't even go there , or they're to bitter with them to stay , and henceforth aunt and uncle stay with them, In start Mini while introducing every say the same. 🥱
"And we're not talking about attacking on charachter here, cause if we do most of people end up saying we're taking side cause the role played by favourite.
"As I read this in few post.
"What message the PB wanted to give"? The old generation"? Was weak coward lived so much in the fear of society"? I admit they do cared lot about socity they do fear the socity judgmental view. Not because what people will say but because people then have the ability to boycott the people to.
What I see it they just wanted to victimized one charachter more and more"?
Except this I don't see any point in here at all"!
They already shown the mother of kid taking the incident lightly, in start or even fearing her husband not wishing to let it come out or talk about it, with him
"This scene itself target the people's mentality, when they made the senior citizens say what was the need for complaining"? see Arya name come on media it's going to spoil her and all, "wasn't this scene enough to show"?
"Was it really really necessary to Drag Mini into it by portraying her as victim /survivor"? When most of people find it hollow to even accept it"?
"Admit or not 🤔KK suck at exciting plot based on such a sensitive issue as well,
"They have good actors truly they can act Marvlously 😎 still if story line or script isn't good then forget about the show as well it's not based on actors name or fame and their acting only you need strong plot to keep the audience hooked and unfortunately PB don't have that 😆
Originally posted by: Rashmisingh9151
Even if it was old Babita they're talking about😊 then to child Abuse isn't something only three person can keep to themselves 😒 she told beeji and that women did nothing"? She didn't told even Dadu"? What's that make her here then"? if they are as such why to whitwash them in season-1"? and Honestly even if Babita did nothing more then that I am sure the women won't have been so devoted to old lady old men after that incident at all but the way they shown"? More then Ashok Betrayal it was their Taking side of ashok hurted her.
"The line he's our son and she's is just DIL.
I am failing to put in Word the way they're showing her to be taking it to lightly or forgetting it I just cannot pin point it in word.🤔
"In past there was no mentioned of Lovely and her in laws , like they don't even go there , or they're to bitter with them to stay , and henceforth aunt and uncle stay with them, In start Mini while introducing every say the same. 🥱
"And we're not talking about attacking on charachter here, cause if we do most of people end up saying we're taking side cause the role played by favourite.
"As I read this in few post.
"What message the PB wanted to give"? The old generation"? Was weak coward lived so much in the fear of society"? I admit they do cared lot about socity they do fear the socity judgmental view. Not because what people will say but because people then have the ability to boycott the people to.
What I see it they just wanted to victimized one charachter more and more"?
Except this I don't see any point in here at all"!
They already shown the mother of kid taking the incident lightly, in start or even fearing her husband not wishing to let it come out or talk about it, with him
"This scene itself target the people's mentality, when they made the senior citizens say what was the need for complaining"? see Arya name come on media it's going to spoil her and all, "wasn't this scene enough to show"?
"Was it really really necessary to Drag Mini into it by portraying her as victim /survivor"? When most of people find it hollow to even accept it"?
"Admit or not 🤔KK suck at exciting plot based on such a sensitive issue as well,
"They have good actors truly they can act Marvlously 😎 still if story line or script isn't good then forget about the show as well it's not based on actors name or fame and their acting only you need strong plot to keep the audience hooked and unfortunately PB don't have that 😆
If beeji forbid her from telling dadu what can she do? Considering she gave birth to mini when she was 18/19 she wouldn’t have been much older herself and not mature enough to even know how to deal with the situation. Remember that she’s been taught to listen to everything her in-laws say. She also wanted to be a “good daughter in law” and obviously she’d see being a good daughter in law would mean not going against something her mother in law says. Watch episode 1 again and then answer the question whether that babita would have been equipped to handle something like that. Or whether after beeji saying no, she’d have still went and told ppl?
You only have to look at nehas mother and father and their reaction to what happened to neha (first pretending that it was ok because he only touched her, then not telling anyone else in the family even nehas own father, then telling the world nothing happened to save the reputation of neha and the school). Doesn’t make them bad parents, it makes their mindsets bad. Babita would have grown up being taught similarly by her parents. They did mention lovely and her in laws but didn’t go into detail. All they said was they treated her badly because she was childless. (I also think they should have gone deeper on this issue)
I think the reason for dragging mini into it was to show a different perspective. To show how “being quiet” has an effect down the line, years later. And how this sort of trauma doesn’t leave a person, even when it happens to them while they’re still small. When adults make a decision like nehas parents did, they don’t think about the consequence to the kid. They think about society, future proposals, reputation, what people will say. No one has once considered what neha will think of her parents when she grows up and understands that she told her parents she was touched and they were quiet (like in minis case). It builds up resentment.
Mini is a victim yes, but so was babita. It wouldn’t have been easy for babita to go through all that also (alone, with no husband, no family and beeji telling her to be quiet because they can’t cause a problem with lovely’s in laws).
If beeji forbid her from telling dadu what can she do? Considering she gave birth to mini when she was 18/19 she wouldn’t have been much older herself and not mature enough to even know how to deal with the situation. Remember that she’s been taught to listen to everything her in-laws say. She also wanted to be a “good daughter in law” and obviously she’d see being a good daughter in law would mean not going against something her mother in law says. Watch episode 1 again and then answer the question whether that babita would have been equipped to handle something like that. Or whether after beeji saying no, she’d have still went and told ppl?
You only have to look at nehas mother and father and their reaction to what happened to neha (first pretending that it was ok because he only touched her, then not telling anyone else in the family even nehas own father, then telling the world nothing happened to save the reputation of neha and the school). Doesn’t make them bad parents, it makes their mindsets bad. Babita would have grown up being taught similarly by her parents. They did mention lovely and her in laws but didn’t go into detail. All they said was they treated her badly because she was childless. (I also think they should have gone deeper on this issue)
I think the reason for dragging mini into it was to show a different perspective. To show how “being quiet” has an effect down the line, years later. And how this sort of trauma doesn’t leave a person, even when it happens to them while they’re still small. When adults make a decision like nehas parents did, they don’t think about the consequence to the kid. They think about society, future proposals, reputation, what people will say. No one has once considered what neha will think of her parents when she grows up and understands that she told her parents she was touched and they were quiet (like in minis case). It builds up resentment.
Mini is a victim yes, but so was babita. It wouldn’t have been easy for babita to go through all that also (alone, with no husband, no family and beeji telling her to be quiet because they can’t cause a problem with lovely’s in laws).
@Bokd so not only Beeji stay silent but forbid b to tell this to Dadu as well"? 😲 great what spinless mother and she darn had the balls to always stay silent when lovely taunted B and M 😲 I am don't have word now it's truly unrealistic B wasn't human then she was so like Lovely then 😡
"they may not know but she did, yet she end up abusing M verbally later on in PB , God if your child has gone through this way if you have no idea how to stand up for her . the realisation you have no one to stand up for you is enough to push you to be protective more likely over protective of your daughter or son. But here in Pab we seen opposite then, And all her protectiveness evoke when she left that shit whole.
"this could be expected by step mother only not the one who birth you. 😒
"@bold 👍🏼underline, I guess this only reasonable point in dragging mini into this, if this is case then I can truly understand or else I don't have any point in why make her go through this to,
"Well I just watch once and made my own point 😆perhaps if I watch twice or with more open mind I may have got this point to
"It's just this incident is truly senstive one,😒 I just don't think this is something you as child or as adult could ever forget at all or completely let it slid. Like it's never happened even if you wish to forget mere words or sight of somthing unusual😒 could trigger you to recall them they may not affect you in same way like it did in start but it's like scar which never erase unless you had memory loss 🤔
"There were lost of incident happened in season-1 which could trigger this, but they never show or even gave us hint of it,
Infact if this is true then I sure hate a mother like B grandparents like dadu Beeji and neha parent type people
"I am sure great ful to God🙏🏼 then for not having people As PB family around me or in my family even my neighbour at home aren't gossiper and vile like they're shown in PB😊
Even in my village there are no people as such at least in my and my parents knowledge , few could be Orthodox type but not as Dadu Beeji type. 🤔
Who read So many Spritual book do Pooja yet doesn't have gut to stand against Adharm (bad ) for Dharm (right) which is all books are about.
"Anyway you made me at least understand why M was dragged into this😊 let's end it here only cause going past in season one hardly matter anymore😆 they had just Ruined it already.
Thanks for your reply 🤗
Originally posted by: Rashmisingh9151
@Bokd so not only Beeji stay silent but forbid b to tell this to Dadu as well"? 😲 great what spinless mother and she darn had the balls to always stay silent when lovely taunted B and M 😲 I am don't have word now it's truly unrealistic B wasn't human then she was so like Lovely then 😡
"they may not know but she did, yet she end up abusing M verbally later on in PB , God if your child has gone through this way if you have no idea how to stand up for her . the realisation you have no one to stand up for you is enough to push you to be protective more likely over protective of your daughter or son. But here in Pab we seen opposite then, And all her protectiveness evoke when she left that shit whole.
"this could be expected by step mother only not the one who birth you. 😒
"@bold 👍🏼underline, I guess this only reasonable point in dragging mini into this, if this is case then I can truly understand or else I don't have any point in why make her go through this to,
"Well I just watch once and made my own point 😆perhaps if I watch twice or with more open mind I may have got this point to
"It's just this incident is truly senstive one,😒 I just don't think this is something you as child or as adult could ever forget at all or completely let it slid. Like it's never happened even if you wish to forget mere words or sight of somthing unusual😒 could trigger you to recall them they may not affect you in same way like it did in start but it's like scar which never erase unless you had memory loss 🤔
"There were lost of incident happened in season-1 which could trigger this, but they never show or even gave us hint of it,
Infact if this is true then I sure hate a mother like B grandparents like dadu Beeji and neha parent type people
"I am sure great ful to God🙏🏼 then for not having people As PB family around me or in my family even my neighbour at home aren't gossiper and vile like they're shown in PB😊
Even in my village there are no people as such at least in my and my parents knowledge , few could be Orthodox type but not as Dadu Beeji type. 🤔
Who read So many Spritual book do Pooja yet doesn't have gut to stand against Adharm (bad ) for Dharm (right) which is all books are about.
"Anyway you made me at least understand why M was dragged into this😊 let's end it here only cause going past in season one hardly matter anymore😆 they had just Ruined it already.
Thanks for your reply 🤗
Yes beeji knew and I’m only presuming told babita to not take it further. did u not see the conversation between beeji and dadu? Dadu asked her if she knew. She said yes babita has told her but what could they do as it was about lovely’s in-laws and lovely was already experiencing issues with her in laws. Beeji is more to blame than babita (but mini will obviously blame babita because that’s her mother and children expect their parents support). But what could babita have done? She went to the older person in the house (beeji) and she was shot down. Maybe if she had her husbands support she could have done more but she was at the mercy of the in-laws she was living with, who didn’t treat her very fairly.
I’m not even surprised actually because beeji never stood up for babita when it came to her own children (even if babita was right). Even tho they’ve made beeji all sweet I still hate her 😆
I will stop my rant now ☺️
Yes beeji knew and I’m only presuming told babita to not take it further. did u not see the conversation between beeji and dadu? Dadu asked her if she knew. She said yes babita has told her but what could they do as it was about lovely’s in-laws and lovely was already experiencing issues with her in laws. Beeji is more to blame than babita (but mini will obviously blame babita because that’s her mother and children expect their parents support). But what could babita have done? She went to the older person in the house (beeji) and she was shot down. Maybe if she had her husbands support she could have done more but she was at the mercy of the in-laws she was living with, who didn’t treat her very fairly.
I’m not even surprised actually because beeji never stood up for babita when it came to her own children (even if babita was right). Even tho they’ve made beeji all sweet I still hate her 😆
I will stop my rant now ☺️
"All the sympthy I had for that couple gone I truly hate them more than anything first cause of what That old men said to mini, 😡 so no I didn't watch the old head conversation
"And truly i didn't watch further after that at all,😒 cause I was truly annoy by mini being dragged into this , and then how unfairly she was put down saying don't make it up. The words that old head used for Mini I was like truly old men you do know what you're saying"? 😡
"First it's hard to speak incident as such, the trauma people face while telling all this like they're relieving them again it's always more painful then the time you suffer. And at end if you do and you're put down make it more hard💔
"Ofcourse Mini will be blame B , but again my point was how B never become over protective of M "? or how this never ever trigger them at all "? Not even that old lady damn I hate her like anything.😡 even when the doctor said she's suffering from depression"? They didn't even go for past wound"? Or how the kid really over come from the pain as this"?
"This wasn't somthing you can go say don't tell anyone or forget like it ever happened right"? But again the more I will think about it the more I will get confused and curious 😆 so better drop it ☺️
@Bold same here me to hate her like anything😡
@Bold underline let's end then 🤝 nice having conversation with you 😃