Pandya Store|Episode Discussion #165 - Page 64

Originally posted by: mpks1

Once upon a time we used to beg for Raavi’s monologue, now we are begging for Shiva’s monologue.😆

KD is talking more about Shiva and his thoughts in off-screen interviews than what we get to see in the episode.😆

From now on if we want to know Shiva’s thoughts, watch SBS/SBB segment interviews of KD, that’s more than sufficient, you don’t have to watch the episode because you won’t get anything 😆

That's why kds words has become a joke when he talks abt shiva or even annadaatha. Like whatever concept he has brewed and accepted in his mind, is not the one that is portrayed..

Sometimes I wonder, if his schedule is so tight that he is not watching the show. But doing his bit..and the editors just cut off the significant scenes that shows shivas side of care and love. 🤷‍♀️🤪

Originally posted by: _charu_

But love is.also not enuf na. Till the time he learns to respect her , trust her , take a stand for her, pyar ka Achar thodi dalna hai..just saving her from goons or accidents and sex is not enuf in a marriage . A girl needs to be treated special . She is not the fav punching bag when things go south. Apni akal kahan hai Shiva ki? Hai hi nai coz bhabhi will decide everything . Good things he doesn't take from bhabhi but craziness he takes from bhabhi and ma.

According to me, love exists only if there's trust & respect. That's why I said he doesn't love her. Raavi loves him, and it's evident in the way she trusts him & kind-of respects him, and doesn't allow anyone to badmouth him. For Shiva, all of this is yet to happen.

Originally posted by: mpks1

TRPs is decreasing yet they continue to show the same behavior. The writers go by what they see in TT and IG only.

Did you watch the latest SBB and SBS segments where they showed segments from the upcoming episodes. Him humiliation Raavi is only getting worse.

Once upon a time IF used to be the only source of feedback for the writers and the actors. Now they think TT and IG fan girls are the only source of feedback, who tag the writers, makers with stories and tweets of how great Shiva Pandya is and how he is absolutely right in questioning and humiliating Raavi,

I might sound like a 44 year old mother of two for a moment, but excuse me when I say this, please. Appo appo ongi onnu aranja dhan indha jenmangalukku ellam arivu varum nu thonudhu Akka. Enga Amma indha IG, TT ponnungala paatha idhu dhan sollirupanga ninaikuren...

(Read- Kabhi kabhi lagta hai ki keench ke ek thappad maarungi, tabhi yeh fangirls ki akkal vacation se laut aayegi. Aur meri Mumma bhi shahad yahi kahenge agar yeh sab pata chala tho)

It hurts almost physically to see girls barely into college and with no knowledge of the harsh truths of the real world behave like this. Support such toxic behavior and a thoughtless character. All for what? An actor who just happens to have been blessed with good looks?

PS I still don't like how KD doesn't seem to understand that just because he plays Shiva, it doesn't mean he can't actively acknowledge the characters faults. That he can't have a POV that doesn't mesh with the character. I know he seems to be a bit of a method actor, but i wish this is one thing he would learn to change, you know? Just because you dance as Raavan in a Ramleela, you're not going to start supporting them, right? (No matter that you try to understand the characters motives, have a certain methodical in the character in order to portray it right, speaking from experience of dancing) That's kind of what I want him to learn with respect to Shiva's character.

Originally posted by: majoni03

Many of us here believe that Dhara and Shiva are writer's favorite character but i believe writer hates these two character the most. Choubays have ruined these two characters. Where is that Shiva we saw on wedding day, where is that Shiva who told Krish to call Raavi bhaabi..

My pov😆

I dnt really think these writers have the intelligence or creativity to mould the character according to their likes..😆.be it dhara, Shiva, gonbi,ravi, rest of them...thats the only reason for the mess.

I mean..they wanted to show something..they wanted us to believe shiva is ravis khushiyan...they wanted us to believe dhara is the angel who brought shiva and ravi together..😆..what is that now .😆

The graph was pretty simple.. dhara the ultimate goodness and matured person in that house..but the script got carried away just too much everytime to emphasise that..that now dhara looks..self-centered.. manipulative..stupid and a big time hypocrite ..🤡

Shiva was the saviour of ravi..and shivi was the tadka of the show..but the stupid script again got carried away to the point that..kds claim of nokjhok was infact abuse, harassment, adultery , love became conditional and one sided...and hypocrisy all over..🤷‍♀️

Ravi was supposed to be the love interest of shiva , a little dobi, but lovely..but the thadkas burnt so bad that she has become the victim who got burnt in this mess..

Rather than proceeding with rectifying the issues that caused this mess..they keep whitewashing with further mess to prove dhara is indeed the mahaan angel and shiva is indeed the mahaan lover..but it just stings to accept that.🤡

Someone please tag Prema Akka, Vaishnavi and Ritu on the post above. Pwease?!!!!! 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

Originally posted by: mpks1

TRPs is decreasing yet they continue to show the same behavior. The writers go by what they see in TT and IG only.

Did you watch the latest SBB and SBS segments where they showed segments from the upcoming episodes. Him humiliation Raavi is only getting worse.

Once upon a time IF used to be the only source of feedback for the writers and the actors. Now they think TT and IG fan girls are the only source of feedback, who tag the writers, makers with stories and tweets of how great Shiva Pandya is and how he is absolutely right in questioning and humiliating Raavi,

From what I've seen over the last few days, TT is quite divided. Many want Raavi to leave Pandya Niwas & Shiva to earn her back, but they don't make long threads about it or very rarely tag the writers, the PH or the channel.

The Shiva-bhakths (a few that I've seen) post multiple threads & tag the writers, KD, the PH, SP and anyone else possible. Maybe that's how they get the attention.

I think the best source of feedback is talking to TRP audience (considering for them, TRP is the end goal). I remember reading somewhere that earlier, they would conduct anonymous surveys to gauge reactions and understand what the audience want. Maybe they should revert back to that.

Originally posted by: Pottermeow

I might sound like a 44 year old mother of two for a moment, but excuse me when I say this, please. Appo appo ongi onnu aranja dhan indha jenmangalukku ellam arivu varum nu thonudhu Akka. Enga Amma indha IG, TT ponnungala paatha idhu dhan sollirupanga ninaikuren...

(Read- Kabhi kabhi lagta hai ki keench ke ek thappad maarungi, tabhi yeh fangirls ki akkal vacation se laut aayegi. Aur meri Mumma bhi shahad yahi kahenge agar yeh sab pata chala tho)

It hurts almost physically to see girls barely into college and with no knowledge of the harsh truths of the real world behave like this. Support such toxic behavior and a thoughtless character. All for what? An actor who just happens to have been blessed with good looks?

PS I still don't like how KD doesn't seem to understand that just because he plays Shiva, it doesn't mean he can't actively acknowledge the characters faults. That he can't have a POV that doesn't mesh with the character. I know he seems to be a bit of a method actor, but i wish this is one thing he would learn to change, you know? Just because you dance as Raavan in a Ramleela, you're not going to start supporting them, right? (No matter that you try to understand the characters motives, have a certain methodical in the character in order to portray it right, speaking from experience of dancing) That's kind of what I want him to learn with respect to Shiva's character.

Tagging for Sathya.

P.s. Agree with you. KD needs to understand his justification of Shiva makes him look stupid.

Originally posted by: deeps07

My pov😆

I dnt really think these writers have the intelligence or creativity to mould the character according to their likes..😆.be it dhara, Shiva, gonbi,ravi, rest of them...thats the only reason for the mess.

I mean..they wanted to show something..they wanted us to believe shiva is ravis khushiyan...they wanted us to believe dhara is the angel who brought shiva and ravi together..😆..what is that now .😆

The graph was pretty simple.. dhara the ultimate goodness and matured person in that house..but the script got carried away just too much everytime to emphasise that..that now dhara looks..self-centered.. manipulative..stupid and a big time hypocrite ..🤡

Shiva was the saviour of ravi..and shivi was the tadka of the show..but the stupid script again got carried away to the point that..kds claim of nokjhok was infact abuse, harassment, adultery , love became conditional and one sided...and hypocrisy all over..🤷‍♀️

Ravi was supposed to be the love interest of shiva , a little dobi, but lovely..but the thadkas burnt so bad that she has become the victim who got burnt in this mess..

Rather than proceeding with rectifying the issues that caused this mess..they keep whitewashing with further mess to prove dhara is indeed the mahaan angel and shiva is indeed the mahaan lover..but it just stings to accept that.🤡

It doesn't just sting, it's impossible to accept, I think.

The fact is, they can all be made the way they want if they use some common sense & redeem the characters accordingly. Not to the extent before butchering, but certainly to a point where the audience won't hate the characters.

But, the writers have to make some effort for this & use their brains.

Originally posted by: _charu_

But love is.also not enuf na. Till the time he learns to respect her , trust her , take a stand for her, pyar ka Achar thodi dalna hai..just saving her from goons or accidents and sex is not enuf in a marriage . A girl needs to be treated special . She is not the fav punching bag when things go south. Apni akal kahan hai Shiva ki? Hai hi nai coz bhabhi will decide everything . Good things he doesn't take from bhabhi but craziness he takes from bhabhi and ma.

The thing is..he never questions his own decisions or assumptions.. he needs to blame it on anyone and everyone when things go wrong.

Ravi had a problem for keeping her ignorant during loan kaandh..instead of understanding her feeling of being secluded. His own mistake of keeping her worried and crying Rather than assuring her that things were under control and they had a plan..no need to reveal everything.. something that calms her..but he just didn't bother..all he did was what bhabhi told him..uske Asoon poncho. He did that .and kept doing it..🤷‍♀️. And she ran off midnight to have an NDE.. still after all this he didn't bother assuring her.. kept doing asoon pochna..🤷‍♀️..

And once everything was out in the open..ravi was angry for a reasonable cause..instead of apologising.. he is accusing her to ruin the mood..especially dharas happiness by questioning her. And giving conditions for love..

He needs to question where all he has been wrong..since disha..he simply never looked back to his own actions..

Originally posted by: VNuts

From what I've seen over the last few days, TT is quite divided. Many want Raavi to leave Pandya Niwas & Shiva to earn her back, but they don't make long threads about it or very rarely tag the writers, the PH or the channel.

The Shiva-bhakths (a few that I've seen) post multiple threads & tag the writers, KD, the PH, SP and anyone else possible. Maybe that's how they get the attention.

I think the best source of feedback is talking to TRP audience (considering for them, TRP is the end goal). I remember reading somewhere that earlier, they would conduct anonymous surveys to gauge reactions and understand what the audience want. Maybe they should revert back to that.

Yeah that.. I've said this before too.. Many people who point out Shiva's mistake has either stopped talking about it on the tag or they simply tweet their disappointment in one or two tweets bcz people attack them.. Who wants to ruin their peace of mind by first watching the show & then arguing with blind fans!!

Yeah Blind Shiva fans make threads after threads whole day.. Tagging everyone possible, never giving creative feedback just blind flattery & that's how they get attention! I specially started to hate Shiva due to that one blind fan bcz if you visit the tag fifty percent tweets were of her on tag.. All of them were defending & glorifying him! It was sick.. So i stopped visiting tag & twitter

Those who don't want to tag makers, writers are also bcz of KD's anndaata speach.. If they themselves want to ruin their show, why should audience care?

Best way to take feedback would be to do random survey of TRP audience, I though joined IF quite late but ppl here are very balanced & too the point in their criticism.. They should also take feedback from here.. As I have seen at least from PS view, TRP generally is in resonance from what ppl here give feedback