Pandya Store|Episode Discussions Thread #2 - Page 90

I'm not going to lie, I was pretty disappointed and uncomfortable with the way some of the characters acted today, and I think @ML hit it pretty spot on. All the ShiVi scenes were definitely pointing towards some insecurity track (guess Raavi will be the one to make Shiva eventually crack). I wondered how the spat between ShiVi could be resolved so quickly--especially since divorce was brought into the picture. It literally went from her saying, "I hate you, Shiva," to the following day them having their typical nok-jhoks. This episode pretty much proved that all is not well in ShiVi land (in which we could read the crazy amounts of fanfics posted this weekend to absorb some of the pain from this episode).

My biggest problem is the way the Dev-Shiva track has been handled. I don't know, maybe I expected more? Or maybe if I were in the situation, I would've handled the situation differently especially after knowing everything I know. To put it fairly in GauRa's perspective:

1. Shiva married a woman he does not like, from childhood, after Dhara asked (He did not have the time to process, and quite honestly, no matter what she asked during that time and state, he would've agreed with no question, so it's not like he wanted any of this)

2. Shiva and his wife were involved in a huge fight in which the topic of divorce came up. Yes, there was no divorce in the end, but that doesn't mean the emotions and pain is forgotten.

3. When Raavi was arguing with Shiva, she essentially told Shiva she believed in all the rumors the town had, including the fact that he was a "gawar," I'm surprised no one noticed the way Shiva seemed more affected by those words than anything else in the conversation

4. Dev and Shiva never had a chance to talk it out

I agreed with some points in both of their conversations alone with the brothers. I agreed with Gaumbi's point of, "Shiva has been through a lot, don't forget that" and I agree with Dhara's point of "Just because he calls you a bevkoof doesn't make you a bevkoof." But I'm really hating these hugs. I know this is all to go into the direction of Shiva's eventual breakdown, but I wish it didn't have to be this way. Breakdowns only mean the healing process takes that much longer. And quite honestly, I was hoping Dev-Shiva's conversation would ease some of Shiva's worries. Make him understand that Dev was apologetic about everything, and everything spiraled out of control for any of them to really take handle on. The conversation could've even paved the path for Dev to reassure Shiva that he will always be there for his brother. That was what I wanted to see. Not so much an apology, but a reassurance that his brother will be his protector. And I think threatening the brothers with a punishment is just a poor way to achieve means. Violence should never cure hate.

I feel like Dev now knows how hurt Shiva is, and he hopefully will be more sensitive when dealing with Shiva. But I think this whole episode made me realize just how in the dark Raavi is. Poor girl legit thinks Shiva has evil intentions, and if Shiva opened his mouth to tell her, maybe it would've made things better. But maybe at this point, even that may not help as she seems to be truly enjoying Shiva's pain.

Yaadon Ki Bharat was nice and all, but I felt underwhelmed with this "pseudo-resolution." And the whole ShiVi hug made me feel even more uncomfortable. I usually like ShiVi, but man did I want to forward the final scene. Both of them looked like they wanted to be anywhere but there. I'm quite honestly thinking this trip won't be filled with ShiVi romance scenes, but scenes that will lead to Shiva's breakdown 😭

Originally posted by: by_stander

Reading the update I am actually excited to see the episode. Dhara is not a saint, she is a human, and what she does might not be acceptable for everyone just because she has good intentions. I guess it will be a learning process for her to set her boundaries. The bahus don't know her as well as the Pandya bros, and the bahus won't treat her the same way as the bros do.

Raavi still holds anger against Dhaara. That's why she is pretending to be on Rishita's side. But once her anger subsides, I think she will be back to normal.

Let's not all try to expect their actions be always perfect. They will have flaws.

That's true and good point. I guess that's what makes it realistic. She will need to learn boindrt, especially when the kids are married.

My biggest issue with Dhara today though is her thinking Shiva shouldn't be upset with Dev. I mean she asked don't you think Dev realizes what he did was wrong and Shiva's like pata nahi. It's good if he knows it otherwise he know how to make him. And he mentions about mess in everyone's life and Dhara's like well that's what family's for. If one makes mistake the other covers it and family's there together in good and bad times.

Definitely don't agree fully with that thought process. My hear went out to Shiva❤️❤️❤️. It's like no one understands his pain. Yes, Raavi been through a lot, but she at least has love and support and people understands what she went through. Shiva on the other hand is all alone. 🥺

Yeaah, Dhara has used up her bank of mom dialogues xD At this point, I think only Shiva listens to them.
And issues have to be dealt with, not just swept under the rug with a sorry.

Originally posted by: Namita-M

Actually, that’s the sad part. Raavi fully believes Shiva hates her and she’s just wants to even out the playing field!!

Ek insaan ko baar baar hate you kaho toh believe karegi hi. Plus because of the MU. Raavi’s just gone over.

I understand but I’m not sure I like her attitude.

As for Dhara, she needs to stop nitpicking!! Plus, what was the belan and peeth comment. She treated them like kids. There was no conversation and that’s what’s needed. You don’t force people to apologize.

I too like most of you, don’t know how I feel. I didn’t get the warm fuzzies that I usually do.

Precap is awesome. Their arguments are starting to be more serious.

Originally posted by: Namita-M

No kidding!!! Does she even realize what she’s doing!! Of course not 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

Raavi is poking the bear. I don’t see it ending well. 😲

This is just my way of finding some positivity in an otherwise not-so-positive episode 😆

But on a serious note, i agree that she has no idea what she is doing. In her hatred for Shiva and Dhara she has started becoming mean to both of them. She will not only hurt them but end up hurting herself too.. and Shiva will probably be the most hurt in this 😔

I hope she comes out of it soon.. these misunderstandings she has against Shiva need to be cleared

Originally posted by: Mountains_Lakes

That's true and good point. I guess that's what makes it realistic. She will need to learn boindrt, especially when the kids are married.

My biggest issue with Dhara today though is her thinking Shiva shouldn't be upset with Dev. I mean she asked don't you think Dev realizes what he did was wrong and Shiva's like pata nahi. It's good if he knows it otherwise he know how to make him. And he mentions about mess in everyone's life and Dhara's like well that's what family's for. If one makes mistake the other covers it and family's there together in good and bad times.

Definitely don't agree fully with that thought process. My hear went out to Shiva❤️❤️❤️. It's like no one understands his pain. Yes, Raavi been through a lot, but she at least has love and support and people understands what she went through. Shiva on the other hand is all alone. 🥺

Good time for Raavi to take his side noh 😂

It’d be so cool if it played out like some of the FFs here 😍

So trueeee! But when it’s all over with, that one group hug will be SO WORTH IT 😍

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

This is just my way of finding some positivity in an otherwise not-so-positive episode 😆

But on a serious note, i agree that she has no idea what she is doing. In her hatred for Shiva and Dhara she has started becoming mean to both of them. She will not only hurt them but end up hurting herself too.. and Shiva will probably be the most hurt in this 😔

I hope she comes out of it soon.. these misunderstandings she has against Shiva need to be cleared

Originally posted by: milkcakejamun

I'm not going to lie, I was pretty disappointed and uncomfortable with the way some of the characters acted today, and I think @ML hit it pretty spot on. All the ShiVi scenes were definitely pointing towards some insecurity track (guess Raavi will be the one to make Shiva eventually crack). I wondered how the spat between ShiVi could be resolved so quickly--especially since divorce was brought into the picture. It literally went from her saying, "I hate you, Shiva," to the following day them having their typical nok-jhoks. This episode pretty much proved that all is not well in ShiVi land (in which we could read the crazy amounts of fanfics posted this weekend to absorb some of the pain from this episode).

My biggest problem is the way the Dev-Shiva track has been handled. I don't know, maybe I expected more? Or maybe if I were in the situation, I would've handled the situation differently especially after knowing everything I know. To put it fairly in GauRa's perspective:

1. Shiva married a woman he does not like, from childhood, after Dhara asked (He did not have the time to process, and quite honestly, no matter what she asked during that time and state, he would've agreed with no question, so it's not like he wanted any of this)

2. Shiva and his wife were involved in a huge fight in which the topic of divorce came up. Yes, there was no divorce in the end, but that doesn't mean the emotions and pain is forgotten.

3. When Raavi was arguing with Shiva, she essentially told Shiva she believed in all the rumors the town had, including the fact that he was a "gawar," I'm surprised no one noticed the way Shiva seemed more affected by those words than anything else in the conversation

4. Dev and Shiva never had a chance to talk it out

I agreed with some points in both of their conversations alone with the brothers. I agreed with Gaumbi's point of, "Shiva has been through a lot, don't forget that" and I agree with Dhara's point of "Just because he calls you a bevkoof doesn't make you a bevkoof." But I'm really hating these hugs. I know this is all to go into the direction of Shiva's eventual breakdown, but I wish it didn't have to be this way. Breakdowns only mean the healing process takes that much longer. And quite honestly, I was hoping Dev-Shiva's conversation would ease some of Shiva's worries. Make him understand that Dev was apologetic about everything, and everything spiraled out of control for any of them to really take handle on. The conversation could've even paved the path for Dev to reassure Shiva that he will always be there for his brother. That was what I wanted to see. Not so much an apology, but a reassurance that his brother will be his protector. And I think threatening the brothers with a punishment is just a poor way to achieve means. Violence should never cure hate.

I feel like Dev now knows how hurt Shiva is, and he hopefully will be more sensitive when dealing with Shiva. But I think this whole episode made me realize just how in the dark Raavi is. Poor girl legit thinks Shiva has evil intentions, and if Shiva opened his mouth to tell her, maybe it would've made things better. But maybe at this point, even that may not help as she seems to be truly enjoying Shiva's pain.

Yaadon Ki Bharat was nice and all, but I felt underwhelmed with this "pseudo-resolution." And the whole ShiVi hug made me feel even more uncomfortable. I usually like ShiVi, but man did I want to forward the final scene. Both of them looked like they wanted to be anywhere but there. I'm quite honestly thinking this trip won't be filled with ShiVi romance scenes, but scenes that will lead to Shiva's breakdown 😭

Pretty much how I feel Avi!! You can tell something is going to give and soon.

It’s ain’t going to be pretty. Like a feeling of doom. Maybe I’m over exaggerating but that’s how I felt.

Originally posted by: raindropsroses

So trueeee! But when it’s all over with, that one group hug will be SO WORTH IT 😍

Yes, the hug was extremely uncomfortable and forced. I was so uncomfortable for ShiVi.

Originally posted by: raindropsroses

I haven’t seen the episode yet, but trying to see the good sides from everything you guys have said so far 😂

I love how positive you are! You usually change my view whenever I think poorly of an episode/character, but I'm thinking Raavi's change in characterization today is due to probably following the original a little too much and not adapting the character based on what was done so far.

Saturday's episode surprised me a little, not going to lie. Didn't think ShiVi would return to status quo so soon. But in this episode, she seemed a little too eager to get on Shiva's nerves. In a way, I have to agree with everyone else, she seemed a little too OTT. I would've thought she would've given him the silent treatment a little longer...

Originally posted by: Namita-M

Pretty much how I feel Nivi!! You can tell something is going to give and soon.

It’s ain’t going to be pretty. Like a feeling of doom. Maybe I’m over exaggerating but that’s how I felt.

I don't think you're exaggerating. I felt the same. Like a black thundercloud was going to envelope me, especially when I witnessed that uncomfortable hug...