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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ramy25

umm what do you mean by "call me something else"?

anyways, Ranbeer was right in his own way and Anant was right in his own way. he wasn't forcing Anant to find love, but he was may be trying to make him aware of a possibility of him falling in love and well how long would he be able to defer or deny the feeling because of his "principles". That's why it was a nice conversation between two best friends.

regarding anant confronting his grand dad--- well for that we will just have to wait.😆 he seemed quite determined but the mom could emotionally bring his determination down for the "greatest good for the greatest number" argument.😆


Sigh. 🥱 Yes. But I dun think Anant lives in denial, he doesn't think of such issues at all. And I wonder how, kids like him manage through their adolescence. If they name their hormonal rushes what they are, if they understand their outburst and all that.

Mother. You are right.

And by call me something else, I meant I dun like being called Kanky.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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so finally i'm here wid my reply, kankster😊...

in yesterday's epi, the guys definitely stole the show, no doubt...chacha jee and anant stood out wid their 'principles'...i'll start wid chacha...yesterday was the first time we got 2 see the 'real' chacha...i feel, he does have something 2 say about issues in the family but somehow his stature within the family prevents him from sharing his opinion or rather, others prevent him from sharing his opinion...the scene where nimisha's mom asks him not 2 override the family decision of gettin her married is an example...like u said, violation of principles...his tears reflected his helplessness...his inability 2 help his daughter, despite wanting to..i wish we could get 2 know some story abt his past..

next, anant...well, in the beginning i felt anant is a pretty complicated character...but after yesterday's epi, i realised, he is as straightforward as he can be...no pretence, no intentions, nothing...he is just clear-headed (atleast for now)...and he was frank enough 2 accept that he considered ranbeer and ritika's relationship as 'bakwaas'...and honestly, i would want anant 2 remain the same till the end...and another thing struck me when he was talikin abt divorces n break-ups...i'm quite sure when he falls 4 navya, he will nt let go of her till the end but at the same time he will not give up on his family...well, falling in love might be against his principle but holding on to that love is a good principle in itself i believe...this is where i feel, ranbeer's challenge comes to the forefront...if the creatives of this show are intelligent enough, they wouldn't turn anant into this stereotypical hopeless romantic trying to woo his girl...rather,i believe the true success of anant's character lies in balancing his principles wid his love life...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: madhu_sridhar

reserved...i'll post my reply asap..atmost by morning...


Yeah, thank you Madhu! =]
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Posted: 14 years ago
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You write well!Reading your post is as much pleasure as watching Navya!And you got the nail right on its head Kanks!!I just wish Chachaji, who is so "suljhe hue" makes a difference with his awesome approach towards life. I guess we can wait and watch him getting fearless. Coz he is a weak man but his weakness, his daughter shall turn him strong!And I really want that day to come!Hope Anant gives him the courage to speak up too!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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edited my post finally...check it out kankster😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: rituloveskmh

You write well!Reading your post is as much pleasure as watching Navya!And you got the nail right on its head Kanks!!I just wish Chachaji, who is so "suljhe hue" makes a difference with his awesome approach towards life. I guess we can wait and watch him getting fearless. Coz he is a weak man but his weakness, his daughter shall turn him strong!And I really want that day to come!Hope Anant gives him the courage to speak up too!


That's cool, uh - thank you. Uncle is a man of no entity in the household, and hence, it'd be interesting to witness how Anant regards him.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: madhu_sridhar

so finally i'm here wid my reply, kankster😊...


Yeah, hello!

in yesterday's epi, the guys definitely stole the show, no doubt...chacha jee and anant stood out wid their 'principles'...i'll start wid chacha...yesterday was the first time we got 2 see the 'real' chacha...i feel, he does have something 2 say about issues in the family but somehow his stature within the family prevents him from sharing his opinion or rather, others prevent him from sharing his opinion...the scene where nimisha's mom asks him not 2 override the family decision of gettin her married is an example...like u said, violation of principles...his tears reflected his helplessness...his inability 2 help his daughter, despite wanting to..i wish we could get 2 know some story abt his past..

Yes, his stature in the family has its roots back in time, it'd be nice to have the revelation of Uncle's life done at last. But that would take time. I think his occupation is something abstract, one that's distinctive or maybe unacceptable with respect to the 'standard' of the other men in the family.

next, anant...well, in the beginning i felt anant is a pretty complicated character...but after yesterday's epi, i realised, he is as straightforward as he can be...no pretence, no intentions, nothing...he is just clear-headed (atleast for now)...and he was frank enough 2 accept that he considered ranbeer and ritika's relationship as 'bakwaas'...and honestly, i would want anant 2 remain the same till the end...and another thing struck me when he was talikin abt divorces n break-ups...i'm quite sure when he falls 4 navya, he will nt let go of her till the end but at the same time he will not give up on his family...well, falling in love might be against his principle but holding on to that love is a good principle in itself i believe...this is where i feel, ranbeer's challenge comes to the forefront...if the creatives of this show are intelligent enough, they wouldn't turn anant into this stereotypical hopeless romantic trying to woo his girl...rather,i believe the true success of anant's character lies in balancing his principles wid his love life...

I second you. Anant is absolutely clear-headed. He never says he doesn't believe in love, he's not cynical - he just believes he can do better things, be good at something else. His principles are self-explanatory, if the character continues to be the same - he wouldn't turn into a vague lover boy!


Thanks for replying, love! 😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hi K, u've really brought out a lot here in this post..
Ananth seems like one level headed guy , the way he handled Sonia was a hint...hope he wud be the one who wud question his family rules n help his poor lil helpless sis out of this forced marriage...sad that Chachaji is helpless, it cud happen in joint families where if one of the siblings is a bit dominating and the other is reserved, then the latter is always taken for granted despite being right...even one small mistake by such people will be remembered, maybe thats why Chachaji n Chachaji look so helpless most of the times!
As abt Ananths reaction towards Navya, hope it does not happen that he falls for her gradually and later under family pressure or status...he marries the new gal whos supposed to enter the show soon, shes going to be stiff competition for navya as she is ananths bhabhis sis n so wud have the support of all the elders whose decisions Anath wud not go against ...
...if thats the way the cvs r going to take this forward it wud be a pathetic family drama n waste of characters like appy,ritz, ranbir n college times...a lot is expected of Ananth, be it in terms of handling his family and his own feelings ...hope the CVsdo not mess up his character sketch like just another typical hindi soap hero who eventually becomes a victim of family values or pressures...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ramy25

Why do the grandparents have more say in to grandchildrens' future than the parents? Why are parents shown to be the ones "giving in" to their parents' decisions about their own children?

Just how we, the younger generation are expected to respect and accept the norms and the values of family and society, isn't it the elders' duty too to accept the ongoing change in the norms and values? Shouldn't the older generation too try to understand the new generation? No one's saying to totally give in to the new generations' demands ...but just how we are expected to "let go" of somethings...shouldn't the older generation also "let go" of some of the stringent old traditions and norms with changing times?

Why is Nimisha being coerced in to marrying at an early age that too without her consent? Why doesn't her father have any say in his daughter's life? have anant's family members been living in some secluded section of the city that they don't know how much society has changed? A woman is the President of their country for goodness sakes!

Its sad to see the condition of the uncle. I guess Anant's beliefs do sorta reflect his. But the only difference is that he never took a stand whereas Anant will take a stand sooner or later.

Anant and Ranbir's conversation was nicely done. It gave a good contrast between two types of people of the same generation. Anant's resistance to Ranbir's words about falling in love showed that he's not the kind who would give in to peer pressure just to "fit in". He is the way he is and there's nothing wrong with that.

Tomorrow Anant comes to know about Nimi's wedding plans and he, as anyone would, feels its not the right decision and wants to put forth his say in front of the "Baba". the mom will pretty much stop him from doing so as expected to avoid any conflict in the family.


Gosh...u told evrything...nw wot shud i say...vl say i wrd *agree*😛
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ramy25

Why do the grandparents have more say in to grandchildrens' future than the parents? Why are parents shown to be the ones "giving in" to their parents' decisions about their own children?

Just how we, the younger generation are expected to respect and accept the norms and the values of family and society, isn't it the elders' duty too to accept the ongoing change in the norms and values? Shouldn't the older generation too try to understand the new generation? No one's saying to totally give in to the new generations' demands ...but just how we are expected to "let go" of somethings...shouldn't the older generation also "let go" of some of the stringent old traditions and norms with changing times?

Why is Nimisha being coerced in to marrying at an early age that too without her consent? Why doesn't her father have any say in his daughter's life? have anant's family members been living in some secluded section of the city that they don't know how much society has changed? A woman is the President of their country for goodness sakes!

Its sad to see the condition of the uncle. I guess Anant's beliefs do sorta reflect his. But the only difference is that he never took a stand whereas Anant will take a stand sooner or later.

Anant and Ranbir's conversation was nicely done. It gave a good contrast between two types of people of the same generation. Anant's resistance to Ranbir's words about falling in love showed that he's not the kind who would give in to peer pressure just to "fit in". He is the way he is and there's nothing wrong with that.

Tomorrow Anant comes to know about Nimi's wedding plans and he, as anyone would, feels its not the right decision and wants to put forth his say in front of the "Baba". the mom will pretty much stop him from doing so as expected to avoid any conflict in the family.



Very very valid questions Amy. What makes this serial realistic (at least on the face value) is that there are people like these existing in society - it could be the dour widowed aunt who's probably been through an early/unsatisfactory marriage and has been widowed/shamed and sent back to her maika or the instigating, cantankerous, greedy Rama who wants the power over her man, his wealth and eventually his family or the hot headed, proud, MCP father of two boys who was cossetted and preferred as he was growing up for showing more potential than his brother who was constantly the black sheep lost in books and other worldly things.

After thinking through - I came up with only one answer - seven deadly sins - wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy and gluttony - to which not many individuals are immune. Call it power or kitchen politics but the powerful live to exert their power on the weak. As long as one chooses to be a victim, the powerful will continue their suppression. Likewise the greedy, lustful, envious people can never have enough. As long as there is inequality in a family, there will not be a shortage of these people. Whenever there is an overdose of power and greed, we get to see this imbalance - unless someone has the courage to stand up against the injustice being meted out.

But being a younger generation doesn't mean one can disrespect their elders and neither should elders misuse this respect for propagating fear. Neither should the cubs have the freedom to literally do what they like without any fear of the repercussions nor should the older flock have the right to unduly exercise their power, their ambitions or their old-fashioned more importantly, irrational ideologies (becoz not all old fashioned ideologies are irrational) over their children/grand-children.

To end my essay, I would only like to quote spider-man Peter's wise uncle, "With great power, comes great responsibility". And unless each member of the family realizes their responsibility, there will always be these questions.

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