04/04 Highlights - Avni stays true to character NO adoption!

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So this episode received mixed reviews but I loved it why? Because Avni stayed true to character and Sayesha is getting the reality check she needs. I loved the way Samrat understood Avni and supported her, this right here should show Avni she has not failed in how she raised these children because Samrat is there for her.

Bebe and Avni's scene was so touching, Bebe is right not everyone can be Bebe or the Khannas and that is because they are unique! The understanding they have for Avni, the way they came around you cannot expect that of everyone but here you have Avni determined to change that belief. Avni wants these kids to have that Neil Khanna in their life, my heart melts here!

Avni wanting to leave the Khanna home why is this being misunderstood?? Avni is not leaving because she is being selfish it is because she is being selfless. Remember what Neil said in the previous episode? Neil said Avni ran FOR love not from it. Avni made a sacrifice to keep her loved ones safe ten years ago, she is well aware of the trouble that can come if she stays put. We will see that for ourselves in the next episode. Avni fears for the lives of her loved ones, she sees herself as that curse and that control Daya still has over her needs to break!

Neil is goals, I love the way he tried to reason with KK because that is the type of person he is. Neil being angry at Avni is understandable, it is not that he does not get what she did it is because she did it without him that hurts the most. Neil feels she did not trust him, that she did not feel he could protect her and until he knows differently that pain will be raw. Give him time, Avni's words will soon get him thinking. Neil loves this girl too much to let her go again and vice versa, make no mistake about it Avni's love for Neil is the real deal. Neil and Avni's love for each other is selfless. When you love someone you look out for them, you never want to see harm come to the other that is what you are seeing unfold between Avni and Neil. These two define what love is!

Avni standing her ground against Sayesha was the best for me, she could have easily caved into the guilt trips Sayesha was laying upon her but no she made it clear there will be no adoption. Avni was even going to slap Sayesha before Neil stopped her. We even had Sunheri come to Avni's defense, see this is what I wanted. Sayesha is hell of annoying but these outbursts were the only way Neil and Sunheri would have spoke up, it was either that or treat her like she is fragile. I am happy CVs proved fears to be wrong here.

Overall a good episode, everything is moving forward and what fans feared was never going to happen. There was never going to be an adoption track or Avni trying to take that place of Juhi in Sayesha's life, she will always look out for her but that can be said for all those children. Avni wants these kids to have the life she was deprived of.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Great positive review as always Mandy. I don't have much time to write another review for this episode. but I will post part of what I've already posted in a different thread:
Good things of today's episodes:
  • Highlight of the episode for me was Avni letting it slip how she feels about Neil- "Sayesha will find herself a loving Neil, like I found one." It was something she said while she was passionately arguing and the truth just fell out of her mouth. Of course, the camera pans towards Neil's face and Zain Imam just nails the expression. He's utter perfection as Neil Khanna.
  • Neil and Avni's screen space was bigger today: we got to see Neil interacting with KK and the Khanna family. And same for Avni as well.
  • I liked the one side conversation between Neil and Avni. Avni stopping Neil and the camera focusing on Neil's clenched fist, with the MS was poignant. His anger and his love reflected perfectly in that shot. The cinematography there was on point. 👏
  • Avni stating point blank that she will NOT adopt Sayesha was the voice of the fandom today. Words that we, as fans of AvNeil and dislikers ( I won't say haters. Lol) of Sayesha, wanted and needed to hear.

Things that I didn't like much:

  • Avni repeated twice that she loved Sayesha more than her own child. I'm sorry the dialogues were completely wrong there. I cringed both times. Avni, you cannot be making this comparison considering that you don't have a child. Yes, I understand the emotion behind the dialogues- she loves Sayesha like she was her own child. There's a big difference there.
  • Sayesha/Payal: I hated every single minute of her screen space. I've been repeatedly saying this but this girl needs to go to acting school. Her expressions were painful to watch. Her dialogues were terrible. " True love"- Girl, you would not know true love if it bit you in the face. The way she was arguing with Avni. I really hated that Neil stopped Avni from slapping her, because let's face it, Sayesha deserves a slap and the fandom would have been over the moon.
    • To be fair, I understand why she's being give the screen space. She's being portrayed as an emotional brat who doesn't understand love, and she will be in for a rude awakening soon when she realizes that KK is no Neil Khanna ( of course, I have to use him as a comparison here. Neil Khanna is perfect). KK is a spineless man who will never support Sayesha. And yes, he will be the Ashish Mehta of this generation
Final point before I end this:
  • Neil's chuppee is very interesting to me. Neil hasn't said much in today's episode ( Whatever he did say thought was very impactful. Quality over quantity!). I'm not sure why but I have a feeling that Neil bringing the adoption matter to the attention of Avni and the rest of the Khannas was purposeful. That he was trying to rile Avni up and he definitely did. Once he mentioned the adoption thing, he went all quiet and Avni raged. I'm of the opinion that Neil has something else going in his mind ( my theory is that he wants to bring Avni back, and put Neilanjana in the past) and this will only be visible to us, viewers the more we watch.

Adding on to the top: I loved Sunehri today. She's Team Avni first and foremost. I loved that she said that SHE saw Avni going through the tough times, and she saw how Avni struggled without Neil INFRONT of Shweta and Bebe. I want the two Khanna ladies to interrogate Sunehri to get more out of her about Avni's life as Neilanjana.


Neil and Avni adore each other- there's no doubt about this. Anyone doubting their love for each other doesn't really understand this show at all. This show is all about Neil and Avni's love. Once they confessed to each other about how they felt for each other years ago, there was no turning back for either of them. It's not like they didn't have testing times in their lives- they've survived all of that and more.

This is another test of their love. We can already see it- in the way they fight each other, in the way they support each other, despite being mad at each other.

Also, as someone else mentioned in another thread: Avni raised her hand on Sayesha; not because of how bratty Sayesha was, but rather because Sayesha insulted Avni's love for Neil. That in itself speaks volumes about the love they share.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Glad Avni taking a stand not to adopt her if spoilers are true n Saisha elopes good riddens she will learn life through her own experiences by failing n falling...

Avni can finally take care of the sensible kids she has n see her dream of strong individuals in Samrat prove the society wrong...

It's nice to see Neil in quiet mode n silent support...y'day loved how he hurts when Avni tells Saisha that coz of her she was insulted in front of Kamini n public...he is watching what she is going through n revealing her emotion her love for Neil...Loved Avneil moment when Avni stops Neil n tells him she did she did for his love...you are right what hurts him the most she did not trust him to involve him in her plan to go away...

Waiting to see how Neil will react when he finds out Prakash killed Neela maa

Don't think Neil would have forgotten what Neela maa told him about Avni -?when she will fall in love she will go to any extent to protect the people she loves...wish they show Neil reflecting on the things Neela maa told him...

Was happy to see Sunheri outburst n waiting for her to tell all to Neil n DD

Also looking forward to Neil n Prakash conversation would be heartening
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@sps0114: Saisha elopes but is found, and she is unwell. Pregnancy track is kicking in!! See Zain's latest interview.

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Check this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Y9CtMFTkc
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: nlisa

Great positive review as always Mandy. I don't have much time to write another review for this episode. but I will post part of what I've already posted in a different thread:

Good things of today's episodes:
  • Highlight of the episode for me was Avni letting it slip how she feels about Neil- "Sayesha will find herself a loving Neil, like I found one." It was something she said while she was passionately arguing and the truth just fell out of her mouth. Of course, the camera pans towards Neil's face and Zain Imam just nails the expression. He's utter perfection as Neil Khanna.
  • Neil and Avni's screen space was bigger today: we got to see Neil interacting with KK and the Khanna family. And same for Avni as well.
  • I liked the one side conversation between Neil and Avni. Avni stopping Neil and the camera focusing on Neil's clenched fist, with the MS was poignant. His anger and his love reflected perfectly in that shot. The cinematography there was on point. 👏
  • Avni stating point blank that she will NOT adopt Sayesha was the voice of the fandom today. Words that we, as fans of AvNeil and dislikers ( I won't say haters. Lol) of Sayesha, wanted and needed to hear.

Things that I didn't like much:

  • Avni repeated twice that she loved Sayesha more than her own child. I'm sorry the dialogues were completely wrong there. I cringed both times. Avni, you cannot be making this comparison considering that you don't have a child. Yes, I understand the emotion behind the dialogues- she loves Sayesha like she was her own child. There's a big difference there.
  • Sayesha/Payal: I hated every single minute of her screen space. I've been repeatedly saying this but this girl needs to go to acting school. Her expressions were painful to watch. Her dialogues were terrible. " True love"- Girl, you would not know true love if it bit you in the face. The way she was arguing with Avni. I really hated that Neil stopped Avni from slapping her, because let's face it, Sayesha deserves a slap and the fandom would have been over the moon.
    • To be fair, I understand why she's being give the screen space. She's being portrayed as an emotional brat who doesn't understand love, and she will be in for a rude awakening soon when she realizes that KK is no Neil Khanna ( of course, I have to use him as a comparison here. Neil Khanna is perfect). KK is a spineless man who will never support Sayesha. And yes, he will be the Ashish Mehta of this generation
Final point before I end this:
  • Neil's chuppee is very interesting to me. Neil hasn't said much in today's episode ( Whatever he did say thought was very impactful. Quality over quantity!). I'm not sure why but I have a feeling that Neil bringing the adoption matter to the attention of Avni and the rest of the Khannas was purposeful. That he was trying to rile Avni up and he definitely did. Once he mentioned the adoption thing, he went all quiet and Avni raged. I'm of the opinion that Neil has something else going in his mind ( my theory is that he wants to bring Avni back, and put Neilanjana in the past) and this will only be visible to us, viewers the more we watch.

Adding on to the top: I loved Sunehri today. She's Team Avni first and foremost. I loved that she said that SHE saw Avni going through the tough times, and she saw how Avni struggled without Neil INFRONT of Shweta and Bebe. I want the two Khanna ladies to interrogate Sunehri to get more out of her about Avni's life as Neilanjana.


Neil and Avni adore each other- there's no doubt about this. Anyone doubting their love for each other doesn't really understand this show at all. This show is all about Neil and Avni's love. Once they confessed to each other about how they felt for each other years ago, there was no turning back for either of them. It's not like they didn't have testing times in their lives- they've survived all of that and more.

This is another test of their love. We can already see it- in the way they fight each other, in the way they support each other, despite being mad at each other.

Also, as someone else mentioned in another thread: Avni raised her hand on Sayesha; not because of how bratty Sayesha was, but rather because Sayesha insulted Avni's love for Neil. That in itself speaks volumes about the love they share.




Nilsa I think for Avni it was easy for her to say because she has no kids of her own, for Avni these orphans are her kids, they are who she has spent the last ten years of her life with so I am okay with that dialogue for now. I understand what Avni means, she has done a lot of Sayesha which is why I wanted to slap Sayesha for being the ingrate she is but like I said it was needed. We all wanted Sayesha to learn the truth and the biggest fear was that no one would speak up because she is Mishti but that was proven wrong. Neil and Sunheri both put Sayesha to her place even Avni stood her ground, she did not break against Sayesha and allow herself to be guilt tripped into going against her beliefs. I was happy about that.

I know what you mean about Neil's silence, in the past whenever he has been like this it is because something else is cooking in his mind. Neil being quiet should never mean he is doing nothing because it ALWAYS means he is doing something. We already know Neil is behind Avni's arrest and its to be her shield but is there more? Time will tell but Neil is still madly in love with Avni, the fact he still wears that mangalsutra around his wrist and cannot tolerate anyone disrespecting her is proof of that!

As for Sayesha the actress, my gosh she is too much. The girl cannot act and SP screwed up royally in casting her, it is why they are facing so much backlash but I pray it does not affect the show. It makes me nervous to see the cast begging fans to watch because the show is under scanner. Naamkarann still has so much to offer and if focus is on AvNeil and the rest of the cast and less on Sayesha for the upcoming track they can succeed. See I know fans are against the pregnancy track but there is just no time to change it and bring in something else, there just is not. All that can happen now is the track be altered and it will be told from the POVs of AvNeil, Khannas and Kapoors.
Edited by .Mandy. - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Also about the "more than my own kids" line - I think it's also because she actually thought she'll never have kids of her own. Her plan was live the rest of her life without Neil. I think this is why that line came out.

PS Mowgli CANNOT be Pillu

PPS About the upcoming, teen pregnancy or otherwise, all I know is that NK will do it justice, it always has!
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The amount of screen time Saisha has been getting in the last 2 episodes just exposed the limitations of the actress hired to play her. She is annoying, irritating and simply cannot pull off this track or the pregnancy track!!

Everyone is getting sidelined due to her. Sunehri finally got some dialogues today after so many days...same goes for Bhavesh. Rest are on mute mode mostly. other kids have nothing to do and same goes for Tara-Sitara.

How can pregnancy track be from others' perspective when Saisha is in the middle of all this and she is the one who is pregnant???

I am seriously afraid things are not gonna work out. Even the most loyal audience is currently losing patience. Whatever differences FD has had about episodes or tracks, but one thing everyone is unanimous about is Saisha and Payal's limited acting skills. No one wants Pregnancy track and yet it is kicking in.

Where is Avneil focus in all this??? We will again see them running behind Saisha, KK, his mom etc etc. When will Avni meet Khannas properly?? Not even a hug? Okay I understand it was not possible in yesterday's episode coz kids' didn't know Avni's identity. What about today? Why couldn't there be a small scene showing their interaction? It was all about Siasha and her adoption drama.

Didn't mean to be negative but I don't see anything positive in pregnancy track and the show is surely in danger!!

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Originally posted by: TSharan

@sps0114: Saisha elopes but is found, and she is unwell. Pregnancy track is kicking in!! See Zain's latest interview.



Oh crap!!! She keeps coming back 😡 if pregnancy happen more the reason to marry KK hold him responsible but Kamini turning out to be another DM
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Originally posted by: .Mandy.




Nilsa I think for Avni it was easy for her to say because she has no kids of her own, for Avni these orphans are her kids, they are who she has spent the last ten years of her life with so I am okay with that dialogue for now. I understand what Avni means, she has done a lot of Sayesha which is why I wanted to slap Sayesha for being the ingrate she is but like I said it was needed. We all wanted Sayesha to learn the truth and the biggest fear was that no one would speak up because she is Mishti but that was proven wrong. Neil and Sunheri both put Sayesha to her place even Avni stood her ground, she did not break against Sayesha and allow herself to be guilt tripped into going against her beliefs. I was happy about that.

I know what you mean about Neil's silence, in the past whenever he has been like this it is because something else is cooking in his mind. Neil being quiet should never mean he is doing nothing because it ALWAYS means he is doing something. We already know Neil is behind Avni's arrest and its to be her shield but is there more? Time will tell but Neil is still madly in love with Avni, the fact he still wears that mangalsutra around his wrist and cannot tolerate anyone disrespecting her is proof of that!

As for Sayesha the actress, my gosh she is too much. The girl cannot act and SP screwed up royally in casting her, it is why they are facing so much backlash but I pray it does not affect the show. It makes me nervous to see the cast begging fans to watch because the show is under scanner. Naamkarann still has so much to offer and if focus is on AvNeil and the rest of the cast and less on Sayesha for the upcoming track they can succeed. See I know fans are against the pregnancy track but there is just no time to change it and bring in something else, there just is not. All that can happen now is the track be altered and it will be told from the POVs of AvNeil, Khannas and Kapoors.


I'm definitely happy that none of the Khannas or Sunehri took Sayesha's side. I especially loved that the Khannas were opposed to the adoption message that Neil brought on behalf of KK. They were vocal about that and I'm glad.

I understand the bond between Sayesha and Avni ( illegitimate/ potentially Neil's child, etc.) but I actually believe the dialogues were wrong today. It's not the emotion behind it that was wrong. Avni's words were wrong IMO.

Urgh, that MS scene was so poignant for me. I'm honestly waiting for a confrontation between Neil and Avni. Avni needs to ask him why he's still hanging on the MS if he really has no feelings for her. They need to have more heart to hearts and get their emotions out of the way.

Even having the pregnancy track altered worries me tbh. How do you remove the pregnant girl from the pregnancy track? How long will it take until Neil finally puts the pieces together about Avni's past? Even in Zain's IV he said, Neil will be upset for longer with Avni. 10 years is not a small gap, like 6 months was, but this is exactly why we need to be seeing their tashan. We need to see them clash more and more until the emotions run dry. Then, it'll be convincing that Neil forgave her.


Keeping my fingers crossed for this beautiful team <3

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