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Posted: 7 years ago
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Happy 2018 to all forum members. May this new year brings loads of peace, prosperity and happiness in your lives.
I was going through my textbooks today and my eyes chanced upon a particular topic which reminded me of Avni's condition. It's about the rights of a detained person, a person who is arrested and kept in the jail.
As you all know, the Indian Constitution ensures our safety in the country by providing us with some rights which cannot be denied by courts of law. One such right is the rights of a detained person.
According to this, even the accused have some rights which no police officer can deny. The rights are as follows:-

1) Right to know the grounds of arrest - according to Section 50(1) Cr.P.C, every police officer or other person arresting any person without warrant shall forthwith communicate to him full particulars of the offence for which he is arrested or other grounds for such arrest.
We have seen that Avni is kept in dark, is unaware why actually Neil put her behind the bars. And this goes against the very basic right ensured to the convict in our Constitution.

2) Right to be taken to a Magistrate without delay- according to Section:-
56. Person arrested to be taken before Magistrate or officer in charge of police station- A police officer making an arrest without warrant shall, without unnecessary delay and subject to the provisions herein contained as to bail, take or send the person arrested before a Magistrate having jurisdiction in the case, or before the officer in charge of a police station.

76. Person arrested to be brought before Court without delay- The police officer or other person executing a warrant of arrest shall (subject to the provisions of section 71 as to security) without unnecessary delay bring the person arrested before the Court before which he is required by law to produce such person.

I don't think Neil, a police officer has taken Avni, a convict, to the judiciary (I hope I turn out to be wrong, I honestly want to be proved). So again, contradicting the rights in our Constitution.

3) Right to consult a Legal practitioner-
Article 22(1) of the Constitution provides that no person who is arrested shall be denied the right to consult a legal practitioner of his choice. Further, as has been held by the Supreme Court that state is under a constitutional mandate (implicit in article 21) to provide free legal aid to an indigent accused person, and the constitutional obligation to provide free legal aid does not arise only when the trial commences but also attaches when the accused is for the first time produced before the magistrate, as also when remanded from time to time. It has been held by the Supreme Court that non- compliance with this requirement and failure to inform the accused of this right would vitiate the trial. Section 50(3) also provides that any person against whom proceedings are instituted under the code may of right be defended by a pleader of his choice. The right of an arrested person to consult his lawyer begins from the moment of his arrest. The consultation with the lawyer may be in the presence of police officer but not within his hearing.
I need not tell, I guess.

4) Right of the accused to produce an evidence-
The accused even has right to produce witness in his defence in case of police report or private defence. After the Examination and cross examination of all prosecution witness i.e. after the completion of the prosecution case the accused shall be called upon to enter upon his defence and any written statement put in shall be filled with the record. He may even call further for cross examination. The judge shall go on recording the evidence of prosecution witness till the prosecution closes its evidence.
When in the course of investigation an accused or any other person desiring to make any statement is brought to a magistrate so that any confession or statement that he may be deposed to make of his free will is record. Confession statements by accused to the police are absolutely excluded under Section 25, Evidence Act.

Here, I just wanted to throw a light on all the rights a convict has, and the ones which Avni is denied to access. By no means, I wanted to hurt anyone through this post of mine. If anyone is, I'm extremely sorry. I'm a fan of NK, but the way the plot is being taken further didn't sit with me well. I haven't wished to offend anybody over here,, I'm extremely apologetic if I did so.
Taking leave.
Nivedita

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Posted: 7 years ago
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You know what? Even I have thought about the lack of legal rights available to Avni in this situation. I thought the delayed court date was a reflection of the delays in the legal system in most Asian countries.

Look at how Vidyut is going to use his MLA influence to get killers out of jail? He promised this to Monica and he intends to do the same for Avni as well. But sadly this may not be impossible where corruption exists.

I was just letting the whole legal debate slip as I was just concentrating on the passion between the leads and boiling the rest down to creative liberty. But yes, there are some gaping holes in this current narrative. But it still wont stop me from enjoying the leads hot love story, which has been rendered hotter by their current discord and also the prisoner and police officer dynamic. The dominance and subservient premise very Fifty shades esque! :) Not that Avni is ever really subservient. Neil seems more scared of her! LOL. Neil is whipped to some extent as most husbands are!


But I get what you mean, but as I said above, AvNeil are too hot right now for me to focus on that!

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

You know what? Even I have thought about the lack of legal rights available to Avni in this situation. I thought the delayed court date was a reflection of the delays in the legal system in most Asian countries.


Look at how Vidyut is going to use his MLA influence to get killers out of jail? He promised this to Monica and he intends to do the same for Avni as well. But sadly this may not be impossible where corruption exists.

I was just letting the whole legal debate slip as I was just concentrating on the passion between the leads and boiling the rest down to creative liberty. But yes, there are some gaping holes in this current narrative. But it still wont stop me from enjoying the leads hot love story, which has been rendered hotter by their current discord and also the prisoner and police officer dynamic. The dominance and subservient premise very Fifty shades esque! :) Not that Avni is ever really subservient. Neil seems more scared of her! LOL. Neil is whipped to some extent as most husbands are!


But I get what you mean, but as I said above, AvNeil are too hot right now for me to focus on that!

I completely get you Mandy, AvNeil's are getting hotter and hotter day-after-day. As you pointed above, it is all due to corruption given that there are men like Vidyut who are capable of bailing murderers and much. It's just that I could stop myself in posting this watching how Avni has become, cold and indifferent to the world. Neil's touches try to bring back the old Avni, only for a short period of time before she returns back to the shell she has created for herself. Saddens me to the core, and led to me posting all this stuff on the forum. Maybe, in near future we can see Avni utilising these rights for her bail. Wishful thinking of mine.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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There are so many liberties that a Hindi TV Serial takes, that makes you think do you really have a brain or not, defies logic everyday. Any serial needs trps to survive, if the show showed all the above which the TM mentions then I dont think trps would agree to it. Logically that was the next step, infact there are whole lot of loop holes in the plot, but at the end of the day its what clicks for them. Drag the story as long trps are with you.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: OmNaMaSteOm

There are so many liberties that a Hindi TV Serial takes, that makes you think do you really have a brain or not, defies logic everyday. Any serial needs trps to survive, if the show showed all the above which the TM mentions then I dont think trps would agree to it. Logically that was the next step, infact there are whole lot of loop holes in the plot, but at the end of the day its what clicks for them. Drag the story as long trps are with you.


I know that there are many liberties that cvs take while writing the plot out, it happens with every fiction writer. That is the case with fiction, a writer needs to take have some liberty while writing down. I understand that, for I too am an amateur writer who writes stories for the telly couples I love. It's all TRP hunger, I know and understand that very well.
But the other side of mine, who is interested in the Democratic Politics, encouraged me post this on the forum. I meant in no way to offend anybody over here.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I had raised similar points sometime back in an earlier post. I understand that tv serials have trp pressures but I don't think that justifies the content shown. Having a trial, lawyer and sentencing for an accused is basic. Everyone knows it. So not weaving their plot accounting for this is complete suspension of logic. And to say that they are creative liberties each time is not an argument I buy. Because some of these things are very basic stuff and having such disregard for it causes the story to be jarring and something that I'm unable to connect with. I keep questioning why I watch such an Illogical show and I guess it's because I love Adiza as Avneil. They perform with so much sincerity. And I guess after watching them for so long I'm genuinely addicted to the show. So I watch even when I know how many plot holes are there!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I was actually highlighting this point in every post of mine when Avni was arrested . But sadly they never wanted to show Neil as a police officer. He was much afraid of Vidyut . But no one can deny that we are enjoying the angst between AvNeil .
I was expecting Avni to be produced in court within 24 hours. They have shown it in many films . I dunno why they didn't give importance to that . As a person who read CPC I was pulling my hair 😆😆 Khair let's leave it behind . Gusre hue kal ya fate hue doodh PE rant karna 🥱🥱 waste of time

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