I have ONE COMPLAIN from ZAIN.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I have ONE COMPLAIN from ZAIN...
We all know its TV industry and no one is going to ask you to Kiss your costar and its will be always dodged and even when its will be shown, it is Symbolic (in some serials where they do show kissing but not in NK as it is a prime time 9pm show) but why are you NOT enacting the scenes where close proximity is show properly. There is always a lack of completeness in those moments...😭

I have noticed in all the scene in last 1 month where ever you are suppose to be close and trying to kiss Avni, there is always a distance and its not completely convincing. Like for example in yesterday's scene, when Neil tried to kiss Avni on bed, the face was also not touched completely )only fingers and end of the hand touched her face) to bring out the passion and closeness of a husband and wife. Even in the scene where Avni ask Neil to separate and later Neil explains and holds her hand and puts his head in her lap, your face was touching your own hands instead of desperately holding wife who is asking to part ways...these are little things but they make lot of difference in putting across the emotion of the moment...the scene was very well done emotionally, by the dialogue, the content etc but the body language was not at par. Even in kiss scenes on forehead or cheek, you do not do it properly...Dude, its just acting and we all know its a mechanical process and no real feeling are involved...😉

I know this is the first time in your career too where you are playing a full fledged lead who is shown married on screen for such a long duration so you will have more such scenes and it is very important to look the part. You are an amazing actor and an absolute favorite of mine, probably the biggest reason to watch NK but such scenes require conviction...and there is something incomplete from your side, the Touch, closeness and conviction...

PS: hope there are others also who feel this way because it was not evident earlier as AvNeil did not get too close but since last few times where they both have confessed their feeling and more closeness is shown, I am noticing this aspect and its from Neil/Zain's side...Aditi is performing bang on.

Also, dude, I know personally you are conservative and have your reservations but kya kare yeh profession toh aisa hi hain...⭐️

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Posted: 7 years ago
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He could have had his head on her lap vs his own hand n hugged her tight...itnah toh Salman Khan who is conservative about kissing n all does it well...
Wonder if he n directors considers Aditi comfort level...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sps0114

He could have had his head on her lap vs his own hand n hugged her tight...itnah toh Salman Khan who is conservative about kissing n all does it well...

Wonder if he n directors considers Aditi comfort level...


There is no comparison to Salman...he does not kiss onscreen, other than that he does other things with full conviction and audience never feels the Gap...Unlike other actors, he does not need to Kiss as whatever romance he does onscreen, he fulfills the purpose and is so convincing...woh eyes and smile se romance kar sakta hai...Cutie Pie he is...he does everything with His touch and swag and kamal ho jaata hain...😉

What Aditi's comfort? She herself kisses on cheek or forehead properly and cusps his face fully... if she had than how come she is able to do? Plus yaar i am tired of understanding their offscreen equations and reasons...agar itne reservations hai toh iss profession mein kyun aye?? phir toh this profession is not meant for you...for example, when you do group dance on stage and their are extras who lift you or hold you.

Just my point of view
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sssenorita

I have ONE COMPLAIN from ZAIN...

We all know its TV industry and no one is going to ask you to Kiss your costar and its will be always dodged and even when its will be shown, it is Symbolic (in some serials where they do show kissing but not in NK as it is a prime time 9pm show) but why are you NOT enacting the scenes where close proximity is show properly. There is always a lack of completeness in those moments...😭

I have noticed in all the scene in last 1 month where ever you are suppose to be close and trying to kiss Avni, there is always a distance and its not completely convincing. Like for example in yesterday's scene, when Neil tried to kiss Avni on bed, the face was also not touched completely )only fingers and end of the hand touched her face) to bring out the passion and closeness of a husband and wife. Even in the scene where Avni ask Neil to separate and later Neil explains and holds her hand and puts his head in her lap, your face was touching your own hands instead of desperately holding wife who is asking to part ways...these are little things but they make lot of difference in putting across the emotion of the moment...the scene was very well done emotionally, by the dialogue, the content etc but the body language was not at par. Even in kiss scenes on forehead or cheek, you do not do it properly...Dude, its just acting and we all know its a mechanical process and no real feeling are involved...😉

I know this is the first time in your career too where you are playing a full fledged lead who is shown married on screen for such a long duration so you will have more such scenes and it is very important to look the part. You are an amazing actor and an absolute favorite of mine, probably the biggest reason to watch NK but such scenes require conviction...and there is something incomplete from your side, the Touch, closeness and conviction...

PS: hope there are others also who feel this way because it was not evident earlier as AvNeil did not get too close but since last few times where they both have confessed their feeling and more closeness is shown, I am noticing this aspect and its from Neil/Zain's side...Aditi is performing bang on.

Also, dude, I know personally you are conservative and have your reservations but kya kare yeh profession toh aisa hi hain...⭐️


I noticed that as well. In the scenes in his condo, where he was kissing her neck after moving her hair, you could tell that his lips were not close to her skin.

Even in today's scene, where he had his head in her lap ( which by the way, has been a secret wish of mine for a long time now), he did have his hand in the way and I get that he was holding on to her hand, but there was an intensity/desperation to have her so close that was a bit lacking for me.

Zain and Aditi have really good chemistry and I wish they would explore that further. He really needs to push out of that comfort zone and try it.
I don't think Aditi has any issues with the closeness. She's kissed him twice already on the cheeks, with her lips fully making contact with his face. I don't see the problem in returning the favour?

Maybe it's his personal preference or a cultural thing, I'm not sure but in that case, the director/cameramen should be making a better attempt at hiding that discomfort and showing us the illusion that it's happening, even though it's not.

Zain is a great actor- really nails his emotional scenes. Don't get me wrong, but I think we need that little push now. Neil and Avni's relationship is past the stage of hugs and forehead kisses. They're a married couple who's in love and ready for the next step.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think the editing is to be blamed, to be honest. In the Jeena Jeena sequence, it was obvious that he had kissed her forehead and eyes but the sloppy editing made it seem like he was only giving her air kisses. Likewise with the almost suhagraat. I don't think either of them has an issue with enacting intimate scenes onscreen because they were comfortable with such things even at the start of the show too - with Zain having no reservations whatsoever holding her bare waist, etc. I guess direction and editing have a big part to play in the way the scenes come out. Just my POV though, I could be wrong.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Euphoria.

I think the editing is to be blamed, to be honest. In the Jeena Jeena sequence, it was obvious that he had kissed her forehead and eyes but the sloppy editing made it seem like he was only giving her air kisses. Likewise with the almost suhagraat. I don't think either of them has an issue with enacting intimate scenes onscreen because they were comfortable with such things even at the start of the show too - with Zain having no reservations whatsoever holding her bare waist, etc. I guess direction and editing have a big part to play in the way the scenes come out. Just my POV though, I could be wrong.


I agree with you could be direction n definitely editing

Here is a clip from Zain previous show where he actually kissed sonal on the cheek

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Euphoria.

I think the editing is to be blamed, to be honest. In the Jeena Jeena sequence, it was obvious that he had kissed her forehead and eyes but the sloppy editing made it seem like he was only giving her air kisses. Likewise with the almost suhagraat. I don't think either of them has an issue with enacting intimate scenes onscreen because they were comfortable with such things even at the start of the show too - with Zain having no reservations whatsoever holding her bare waist, etc. I guess direction and editing have a big part to play in the way the scenes come out. Just my POV though, I could be wrong.


Yes in the OLVs he clearly kissed her on the forehead and nose.
But editing made t look as if he gave air kisses.
Also the column scene when avni thought she heard a gunshot was way more convincing than the actual episode.
I am not sure why editing is being done like this.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sssenorita


There is no comparison to Salman...he does not kiss onscreen, other than that he does other things with full conviction and audience never feels the Gap...Unlike other actors, he does not need to Kiss as whatever romance he does onscreen, he fulfills the purpose and is so convincing...woh eyes and smile se romance kar sakta hai...Cutie Pie he is...he does everything with His touch and swag and kamal ho jaata hain...😉

What Aditi's comfort? She herself kisses on cheek or forehead properly and cusps his face fully... if she had than how come she is able to do? Plus yaar i am tired of understanding their offscreen equations and reasons...agar itne reservations hai toh iss profession mein kyun aye?? phir toh this profession is not meant for you...for example, when you do group dance on stage and their are extras who lift you or hold you.

Just my point of view


The reason I said Aditi comfort coz in the jungle close scene the director said whatever is ok with her they will go with...

With Yusuf Sir the intensity n tashan was great he brought out they intensity beautifully the zipper scene both AdiZa were great but Aditi stole that scene for me there was no OTT she was natural n beautiful expression of emotions...

Just for their comical relief SR scene Yusuf Sir should be brought back...as an exception...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sps0114


The reason I said Aditi comfort coz in the jungle close scene the director said whatever is ok with her they will go with...

With Yusuf Sir the intensity n tashan was great he brought out they intensity beautifully the zipper scene both AdiZa were great but Aditi stole that scene for me there was no OTT she was natural n beautiful expression of emotions...

Just for their comical relief SR scene Yusuf Sir should be brought back...as an exception...

zipper scene was directed by sandeep sir
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yeah that zipper scene was directed by Sandeep sir I saw on -location pic which clearly had only Sandeep sir instructing adiza Yusuf sir was not even present at that scene
I agree since we feel and believe that both Zain and Aditi are not so bold to enact intimate scenes we easily believe that Zain gives air kisses etc..but actually it's not like that yaar when we fans know how important is for an actor to enact romantic scenes convincingly then do you think they are oblivious to that fact and moreover it's the editors gandi editing Varna koun kiss scene Ko overlapping karta Hein editors are definitely to be blamed even if actors don't do properly why are the editors are paid afterall so that when we audience watch it onscreen it shouldn't be felt like the kiss or scene is not done professionally it's the responsibility of the editors NK ki editors are screwed that's the fact we don't get proper intimate and kiss scene not the actors infact I must agree the olvs are much better than actually episode when it comes to intimate scenes Zain actually kissed Aditi in jeena jeena scene and even the jalebi hand kiss scene he did kiss really well but our dear editors used their scissors
Both Aditi and Zain very well know that just like how convincingly they do emotional scenes and other scenes intimate scenes equally play a role they are professionals afterall if at all someone is to be blamed its our sanskari editors not actors

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