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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ashi3

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Exactly the same thoughts!</font>


<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">The symptoms Vidyut showed were of Hypoglycemia. And why would someone take insulin for Hypoglycemia?😆In fact, they themselvesshowed two contradictory things. In the flight Avni gave him glucose, which was the right thing to do. And here he was searching for insulin, which is not what he needed at the moment.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">But yeah, looking for logic in these shows will leave us banging our heads on the wall. So it's better to take everything with a pinch of salt.</font>


Truly.
Also its something to show logic and other thing is to show Facts.!
The logic can be overlooked but not the Facts.!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arieltabi

I m not a medical student but what I have read in Biology in highschool and what my teacher had said is that correct me if I m wrong is that,

Insulin is a hormone which is produced in our body which contol the sugar level but because of Diabetes the production of insulin decreases so the sugar level rises in our body. That's why diabetes patients inject insulin to lower the sugar in Blood.
But when the sugar level drop u have to take sweet not insulin it will lower the level more.
Its a very common knowledge. They should have shown some chocolate not insulin.


Yes. This is the basic knowledge most people out there are aware of and its correct.
I just put an extended version of it from Medico's POV.
See i told u Diabetes is such a common condition and they are messing things about it.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan



Most diabetic patients carry some sugar with them. I have a work colleague who is diabetic. I know he keeps a chocolate bar and some sugar candies in his drawers. He always has his lunch at 12pm sharp. He never goes long periods without eating.

They should have shown Vidyut try to reach for a Candy bar and Neil stopping him. That would have been more real. But I guess they thought to show him stepping on the Insulin injection was "More dramatic" so they did that instead! Logic and science ki Vaat!😲


After all its the Drama that has high quotient and Not the Facts and Logic. 😆 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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"Dehydration. High blood sugar levels (hyperglycemia) can cause polyuria, which in turn can lead to dehydration by passing too much fluid out of the body in an attempt to remove excessglucose. With low levels of water in the body, the brain may struggle to function correctly and cause light headedness."

When high sugars or low sugars are not controlled patient slips in to coma. Brain tries to limit all the functions of the body except for the vital ones required for survival.

Source: Google.

I remember my grandpa when his sugars were high he use to feel dizzy and unstable. Dizziness can occur due to high sugar or low sugar or low BP.



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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Merav

"Dehydration.Highbloodsugarlevels (hyperglycemia) can cause polyuria, which in turn can lead to dehydration by passingtoo muchfluid out of the body in an attempt to remove excessglucose. With low levels of water in the body, the brain may struggle to function correctly and cause light headedness."

<font color="#3c4043" face="Roboto-Regular, HelveticaNeue, Arial, sans-serif">When high sugars or low sugars are not controlled patient slips in to coma. Brain tries to limit all the functions of the body except for the vital ones required for survival.
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<font color="#3c4043" face="Roboto-Regular, HelveticaNeue, Arial, sans-serif">Source: Google.</font>

<font color="#3c4043" face="Roboto-Regular, HelveticaNeue, Arial, sans-serif">I remember my grandpa when his sugars were high he use to feel dizzy and unstable. Dizziness can occur due to high sugar or low sugar or low BP.</font>






Agreed. Dizziness can Occur in Both High Sugar and Low Sugar..
But my take is Its Much Much Much common in Low sugar.
Also Dehyaration Induced Dizziness occurs in High sugar when its complicated by DKA as i mentioned in post, which is par from just an attack of high sugar. Its a much complicated scenario. Patient is not just dizzy but he losses his consiousness and needed to be hospitalized Asap. Vidyut's condition was anything but that.

The attacks he showed along with relevance of his condition points in 99.99% cases towards Hypoglycemia only..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: docritu99



Agreed. Dizziness can Occur in Both High Sugar and Low Sugar..
But my take is Its Much Much Much common in Low sugar.
Also Dehyaration Induced Dizziness occurs in High sugar when its complicated by DKA as i mentioned in post, which is par from just an attack of high sugar. Its a much complicated scenario. Patient is not just dizzy but he losses his consiousness and needed to be hospitalized Asap. Vidyut's condition was anything but that.

The attacks he showed along with relevance of his condition points in 99.99% cases towards Hypoglycemia only..



I have been researching on diabetic rat models for past 10 years with my experience i can say in medical cases 1+1 is not always equals to 2. And all the case studies and doctor analysis and prescriptions are based on statistical case studies and predominant results so one should be open minded before scrutinizing cases. Just bcoz it doesnt ' happen that way usually doesn't mean it shouldn't.

For example in flight viyuth might had low sugar so felt dizzy they gave glucose to stabilize now in the fight due to stress his sugar might have spiked making him dizzy so he is trying to take insulin. Diabetic people are often prone to zigzag sugar patterns.

Dont want to offend you just putting out my point.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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The medical knowledge regarding diabetes is a common knowledge. I am not a doctor bit my father is a patient of this same disease and as such Vidyut's condition and the so called treatment surprised me. The CV'S should have atleast done their research.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Merav




I have been researching on diabetic rat models for past 10 years with my experience i can say in medical cases 1+1 is not always equals to 2. And all the case studies and doctor analysis and prescriptions are based on statistical case studies and predominant results so one should be open minded before scrutinizing cases. Just bcoz it doesnt ' happen that way usually doesn't mean it shouldn't.

For example in flight viyuth might had low sugar so felt dizzy they gave glucose to stabilize now in the fight due to stress his sugar might have spiked making him dizzy so he is trying to take insulin. Diabetic people are often prone to zigzag sugar patterns.

Dont want to offend you just putting out my point.


No no no. Not taking it as an offence either, its just a healthy discussion..!
I agree in Medical Science nothing is straight, every case is different and unique in its own terms. Its full of exceptions.
But its better to focus on what happens with majority more than what happens in rare single case esp in a developing nation like India. U have to have to stick to more commons while looking out in a field of thousands of cases instead of bothering about few rare instances, well thats what i have learnt in my little time of practise. M not saying m perfect, i am also in a learning stage, i may be wrong but thats how it works out there.

Also i think u are getting confused between Strees And Strenous Physical Activity.
Stress Increse Glucose level for sure due to hormones like Catecholamines and Glucagon
But Strenous Physical Activity ( physical Fight, Running in Jungle etc etc ) actually makes ur Body more sensitive to insulin in turn reducing blood Glucose.

M just stating a fact here, dont take it otherwise.

Also Insulin is Not any "Over the Counter drug" like pain killers, got a headache pop up a pill and pain gone. Unlike to this scenario insulin cant be taken just like that. U felt dizzy, inject a dose and bam levels stabilised. It comes with all proper instructions and precautions from physicians advice. U cant even change a single unit of its dose on ur own then how can u iject whole dose. It has to follow a pattern acc to ur diet its time and ur levels.
Edited by docritu99 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: docritu99


No no no. Not taking it as an offence either, its just a healthy discussion..!
I agree in Medical Science nothing is straight, every case is different and unique in its own terms. Its full of exceptions.
But its better to focus on what happens with majority more than what happens in rare single case esp in a developing nation like India. U have to have to stick to more commons while looking out in a field of thousands of cases instead of bothering about few rare instances, well thats what i have learnt in my little time of practise. M not saying m perfect, i am also in a learning stage, i may be wrong but thats how it works out there.

Also i think u are getting confused between Strees And Strenous Physical Activity.
Stress Increse Glucose level for sure due to hormones like Catecholamines and Glucagon
But Strenous Physical Activity ( physical Fight, Running in Jungle etc etc ) actually makes ur Body more sensitive to insulin in turn reducing blood Glucose.

M just stating a fact here, dont take it otherwise.



I feel we are boring people now with too much science here. 😆 I agree with you in some points but have my reservations about few anyways I will stop it here since its not the right platform to discuss. Happy watching NK for both is us.😉
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Posted: 7 years ago
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So much medical discussion going on here!You people reminded me of my first day MBBS orientation class where they asked us the question "what is 1+1 "and said that in medicine 1+1 is not always equal to 2. I'm not a very knowledgeable person as I'm still in MBBS 1st yr but as far as I know, in diabetes mellitus people most commonly suffer from hypoglycemia so I guess they should have shown a sugar candy instead of insulin injection 😆
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