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Originally posted by: forest_foliage

Mukta zindabad. At least kuch toh mysterious dikhaya - 😉😀

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Originally posted by: InsaneSoul08

I don't know why people doubt that Veer is a mastermind. I agree Veer is trusting Bani bit too much and he accepted Jai so soon, but it is just a rapid progression in their relationship and Veer-Jai part is sometimes cringe-worthy, sometimes a good watch... Also, the makers didn't have much time to show Vani scenes as the show is concentrating on Samudra Manthan concept. Thats why, their relation is progressing well. Other than that, Veer's character is poorly-written... In fact all the three characters are written poorly. Jai's one is the least poor. Bani is intermediate in between Jai and Veer

All three main characters are inconsistent at some point. But poor writing is when the character does not stick to its traits! I would call that poor writing. Bani's character started off as this, strong ultimate aadi-naagin who reincarnated to kill off the evil cheels! She killed off shukla's sons on the name of justice for noor! She married veer to avenge jay's muder and kill off other cheels! Till that time her character was completely in sink. But what happened after marriage? She did nothing to eliminate her enemies? She kept on giving empty threats to Veer and kept on screaming and hating on him. Worst, kept on instigating him to attack first. Carrying out all the futile attempts on her most powerful enemy rather than targetting the weaker ones in the family! Was only Veer her enemy? What about the other family members? Her constant obsessive hatred over Veer is what I call weak writing. Her not using her powers and presence of mind to make a plan and execute plans ko eliminate her enemies, is what I call weak writing.

Coming to jay, his character was seriously seems like a liability to makers! They just don't know what to do with him! Him turning negative was a good move, they should have stuck to it, making him again positive and now again they will make him negative will all probability, that's super inconsistent!

Finally coming to Veeranshu, honestly he was surely dumb enough to not know his families wrong doings! Even I find it super weird! But out of the three, Veeranshu's character is still recognisable!😆

Adjectives like, weird, unpredictable, obsessive, crazy, intense, funny, use to describe Veer in episode 1 and even describes today!😆 Veer was obsessed with bani since episode 1, he still is, he hates jay to the core even then, he does even now!😆 About accepting jay in this house, the fact that he accepted beating from jay, the first time he saw bani, just to see her smile, do defines his destructive obessesion for bani! He does seem to do anything and everything for her!

And I can accept this, coz he didn't give her a slightest scratch even under the influence of the most deadly poison, naagfani! I don't know if naagfani was introduced in previous seasons but referring to this season, naagfani was established as one of the most deadly poisons which makes the cheels go mad in anger! And how much anger did we actually see in Veer eventually when he was in front of bani?😆Next to null!🤣

So nageshwari or no nageshwari, Veer would have anyways accepted bani in every way possible! Obsession is not his trait, its his nature, he's born with it!😆

About using their brains, well, all three are shown conveniently shown dumb, but Sharad's acting really never makes me look at Veer like he's ever dumb!😆 Sorry, maybe that's my liking for him!😆

Moral: I don't think Veer is poorly written, I feel he's weirdly written!😆

The only thing that I felt was weird was Veer not paying heed to Bani's fear. He question of being soaked was valid. Considering her theory of a double Markaat coming true .. should have made her concerns even more valid. For Veer to take her concerns lightly was weird and felt inconsistent with him. He has always given importance to what Bani says and picked up the small details.

MAYBE, just maybe, he may know what is up with the water thing. They might come up with something. Or maybe, and most likely, is was just a poorly thought way to induce the scene. BUT I do not think Veer will end up being the mastermind or backstabbing Bani. That will be throwing away everything they have shown since Day 1. They do not have the time to show that or gradually pick up from there back to a strong couple in the form of VaNi. And frankly and simply put, Veer's betrayal would just mean suicide for the show now.

Originally posted by: nikki.171

The only thing that I felt was weird was Veer not paying heed to Bani's fear. He question of being soaked was valid. Considering her theory of a double Markaat coming true .. should have made her concerns even more valid. For Veer to take her concerns lightly was weird and felt inconsistent with him. He has always given importance to what Bani says and picked up the small details.

MAYBE, just maybe, he may know what is up with the water thing. They might come up with something. Or maybe, and most likely, is was just a poorly thought way to induce the scene. BUT I do not think Veer will end up being the mastermind or backstabbing Bani. That will be throwing away everything they have shown since Day 1. They do not have the time to show that or gradually pick up from there back to a strong couple in the form of VaNi. And frankly and simply put, Veer's betrayal would just mean suicide for the show now.

This. I too felt like him brushing off her concerns as her "vehem" were odd, but in daily-soap land (not that this is one, but trope-wise) that sort of thing only happens to hammer home the truth of her fears at a later point. Toh Veer had to initially brush it off as nothing because presumably that makes it more dramatic when her visions come true in some way and he/Meera is in danger. And he was trying to console and cheer her up...so in that moment even if he believed her concerns valid, he wouldn't have said anything because she was already freaked out enough. What good would have come of him saying "oh yes, there's definitely something sinister going on here, your visions are definitely a sign of some imminent danger"?

Plus, I felt like the point of the scene was to bring about a progression in their relationship, so the writers used that as a shortcut for a hug and emotional exchange, rather than turning it into a mystery-solving discussion.

That said, I can see why his expressions may have led people to believe he's hiding something...at times I saw it too, but it's just that Veer/Sharad has always been like this, toh I didn't find it out of the ordinary for him. Some human bhola-bhala pati hota toh I would have felt the disconnect more strongly 😂

@bold - the writers must know this, at least. Not only do they not have any time to do a "Veer is evil or is he really and can he be redeemed?" SL, but the audience will just give up at that point. It will have undone every single thing we've seen and learned about Veer's feelings for Bani at this point, and would be a mess to untangle. If this were a daily soap, I'd probably be more inclined to believe they could go down that road...but as it is, I feel like it would be a waste of time and energy.

Edit: Not to mention, it would be exactly the same as the Jay storyline - turns out the lover I trusted with my life was a backstabbing backstabber. I mean...once was enough 😂

Originally posted by: nikki.171

The only thing that I felt was weird was Veer not paying heed to Bani's fear. He question of being soaked was valid. Considering her theory of a double Markaat coming true .. should have made her concerns even more valid. For Veer to take her concerns lightly was weird and felt inconsistent with him. He has always given importance to what Bani says and picked up the small details.

MAYBE, just maybe, he may know what is up with the water thing. They might come up with something. Or maybe, and most likely, is was just a poorly thought way to induce the scene. BUT I do not think Veer will end up being the mastermind or backstabbing Bani. That will be throwing away everything they have shown since Day 1. They do not have the time to show that or gradually pick up from there back to a strong couple in the form of VaNi. And frankly and simply put, Veer's betrayal would just mean suicide for the show now.

Also, Veer is the ONLY ally of bani! In order to make Veer negative, they need to make someone else equally strong as Veer,positive! Jay doesn't seem to take that place! And, no one else I can see! Turning Veer negatives makes bani completely alone! Then, what's the point? Bani anyways never trusted him, jay will anyways betray bani later! So, isska culmination kya hoga? Bani fighting with every character in the show, alone?🤔 Sounds super weird!

But yeah, Veer's reaction towards bani was straight up weird, but when has he ever symathized with her anyways? I said in another post, he seems to hate seeing her scared! Otherwise, its just Veer's cheeky face I'll conclude! Banda kahi bhi, kabhi bhi hass skta hai!😆

Originally posted by: nikki.171

The only thing that I felt was weird was Veer not paying heed to Bani's fear. He question of being soaked was valid. Considering her theory of a double Markaat coming true .. should have made her concerns even more valid. For Veer to take her concerns lightly was weird and felt inconsistent with him. He has always given importance to what Bani says and picked up the small details.

MAYBE, just maybe, he may know what is up with the water thing. They might come up with something. Or maybe, and most likely, is was just a poorly thought way to induce the scene. BUT I do not think Veer will end up being the mastermind or backstabbing Bani. That will be throwing away everything they have shown since Day 1. They do not have the time to show that or gradually pick up from there back to a strong couple in the form of VaNi. And frankly and simply put, Veer's betrayal would just mean suicide for the show now.

Veer is simply like that. He doesn't take things seriously. Like it is this way. Unless the situation is in his face and if he doesn't act now things will go berserk, until then he takes it really relaxed. His obsessiveness still continues in a way that he keeps himself the most important person in her life. Poking Bani around saying she has feelings for him.

Jab Bani darr gayi thi Paani ko leke, Veer joked about it to just brush off and ease the whole thing. That is exactly how Veer deals with issues that are of concern. Veer thinks that Bani's seeing all this out of stress. He doesn't 100% believe that Bani got a power of precognition. He accepts that his mother is markaat but he's convincing himself that he doesn't care much for it with saying "Tum theek ho, main khush hun" His facial expression marks that he's trying to makes himself believe that as well. He doesn't want to go all heartbroken and crying at that. That's how he deals. Joke karo, mazak banao uska and move on. He finds solutions on the way while tackling problems. 10 din pehle se soch ke apna dimag ka khichdi nahi banata. Its like "Jab woh situation aayegi tab usse nipat lenge. Abhi chill karo."

Veer's obssession shows when he starts blaming Jay for betrayal and the reason she was in trouble and he couldn't find her. His obsessiveness shows when he told Jay to get out of her life so she would pay attention to him. His obsessiveness shows when he kept pulling her with him while she's bothering with other things.

"Nahi.. abhi isi waqt." It shows that Veer wants to be no 1 priority in her life. He listens to her and believes her but it does still remain that he wants to be her number 1. Like the way his expression changes when Bani says, "Jay tum theek ho yeh dekh ke accha laga".

Veer jokes around and pokes fun with that cringy childish behavior with Jay but his "Ae, chup. Mazak ke mood mein nahi hoon" is a sign that he doesn't like Jay getting between his and Bani's conversation. He likes to be the center of her attention. That's his obsessiveness. Aakesh's obsessiveness was also same but it was coupled with forcefully trying to take that place. Veer does it in a more sauve way. He does things that demands her attention. Making her dance with him before everyone. Intentionally doing things to grab her attention to him.

Veer's not the villain and he can't become one because his love exactly pulls him to do things that pleases Bani. Things that she likes. His moral ambiguity is in exactly where he draws the line. He doesn't respect people. Only one he actually does respect as a person was his mother and Bani. Now, since Chandrakala turned out be the backstabbing person, he's lost respect for her as well.

Veer has not accepted Jay. he himself said that his feeling for Jay is still the same.actually Jay is like vikrant of season3. sometimes positive b sometimes negative. I feel the most inconsistent character was naintara of s4. she wanted to take revenge for her mother by killing dev's family.but shockingly later she joined hands with those people for naagmani forgetting her mother n the values given by her.it was very sad to see naintara like that.

Originally posted by: InsaneSoul08

It is simple. Veer was shown as a Casanova like one who is a bad guy and even his family members would fear for him (It's not fear, they are not included him knowing that he is moral dumb). But later it was shown as Veer is a carefree good guy who value relations. Then now he is childish, he accepted his brother Jai. He didn't show any sign that Akesh is Veer even after learning the truth. In fact the effect of past truth to Veer is completely null. Where is his obsession for Nageshwari or hatred for Hriday?

About Bani, she doesn't have any balance between hatred and love. She neither differentiates them

Jai wise, it was said as somewhat a layered character with some basic flaws.

Overall, Makers worked on the storyline, but not on the characters. In other seasons, whether the story is decent or good or bad, the characters stuck to their traits completely.

but in tv serials the hero doesn't become a villain

Originally posted by: rubyfangrl

i feel that veer is the mastermind, and he already knws everything. he will backstab.

Originally posted by: J2lover

Also, Veer is the ONLY ally of bani! In order to make Veer negative, they need to make someone else equally strong as Veer,positive! Jay doesn't seem to take that place! And, no one else I can see! Turning Veer negatives makes bani completely alone! Then, what's the point? Bani anyways never trusted him, jay will anyways betray bani later! So, isska culmination kya hoga? Bani fighting with every character in the show, alone?🤔 Sounds super weird!

But yeah, Veer's reaction towards bani was straight up weird, but when has he ever symathized with her anyways? I said in another post, he seems to hate seeing her scared! Otherwise, its just Veer's cheeky face I'll conclude! Banda kahi bhi, kabhi bhi hass skta hai!😆

There's no reason for Veer turning negative now and he shouldn't otherwise the show which is already suffering from low ratings will become a debacle like the previous N4 season.

I don't mind his grey shades and VANI fans like us love his mad obsession and unconditional love for Bani without any strings attached.I see no reason for Veer's betrayal towards Bani unless Teer masquerading as Veer betrays Bani causing misunderstanding between the couple and Jay would love to take advantage of such an opportunity.Feeling betrayed by Chandrakala he would want Bani back in his life which we VANI fans wouldn't want to happen.

Maarkat is already a tough foe to deal for Bani and now this Veer turning negative factor.I wanted Veer to turn cold-hearted not negative towards Bani bcoz she was too much rude and obnoxious towards Veer.Things have just started to normalize between the couple and if Veer betrays her then he should have done that within that time itself when Maarkat was ready to kill Bani.Hell even Jay supported Bani so why would Veer betray her now? VANI has the blessings of Lord Shiva too.

No mate has ever betrayed their Naagin soulmate and Veer should follow that same path too.Continue to madly love and protect Bani till his last breath as he does now.Yes I wouldn't ignore the possibility of Veer turning negative under the influence of Maarkat's Tamsik shakti.Chandrakala knows that Veer has untapped potential within him and she wouldn't hesitate to force Veer to unlock the same against Bani.

Chandrakala knows that she cannot harm Bani till Veer is there with her.She perhaps never expected that Veer would go against her for the Aadi-Naagin.As for Bani she's already in big trouble Veer's betrayal could drive her over the edge bcoz perhaps she has started to trust and has gotten used to Veer's love and care for her.Bani believes now that Veer would always stay by her side to fight against new and unknown threats inspite of being the Scavenger.

The way Veer showered his love for her always surprised and overwhelmed her. Hate has given way to the Trust in Bani's heart now.Bela could fight her battles single-handedly sometimes bcoz Maahir's blind love backed her all the way.

Same goes for Shivanya or Shivangi who got that kind of support from their mates Ritik and Rocky.Bani will fight tooth and nail against Markat but this time not only for either Meera or her family but for Veer too.Bani might be an Aadi-Naagin but at the EOD she's just like any other woman who though strong and independent craves for an emotional stability in her life which Veer has always provided till now and he should continue to do the same for her.

Veer has promised to literally burn in hell for her love if required and Bani seemed mesmerized by that promise.Hope to see this Deewanapan for Bani always from Veer's side.His love for Bani is greater than any negativity within him.