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Posted: 19 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Evilgenius_S.S™

I wonder almost all r copied frm sumother ones..........!!!👏 gr8 na.......we really do nt have any talent ..in its real sense!! thnx MR.T. 4 making us all aware of it!!! if nt me n all here..den u surely have listened alll na!!! 😳--------I dnt completely disagree....ya i knw which r copied n ................many r nt!

1) I never said ALL are copied. I meant that originality has become a rarity these days.

2) I never said we dont have any talent, so kindly avoid taking my statement out of its original context.

3) I disagree - many of the popular songs ARE copied. For example: Pritam's Gangster is a complete rip-off Album. I just found out and I'm not too happy about it.

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Posted: 19 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: T.

Jem, I'm not talking about inspirations or songs which are "copied" unknowingly.

I'm talking about blatant copies where there are NO variations at all by the copy-cat.

Will just give examples of these so-called Arabic "inspirations" (read: direct lifts)

1) Shikdhum (Dhoom - Pritam) --- Sikidim (Tarkan)

2) Dil Samundar (Garam Masala - Pritam) --- Kuzu Kuzu (Tarkan)

3) Ya Ali (Gangster - Pritam) --- Ya Ghali (Guitara)

4) Suniye To (Yes Boss - Jatin Lalit) --- Ahla ma feki (Hisham Abbas)

5) Chak de (Hum Tum - JL) --- 'Yalla ya shabab' by Ragheb Alama

6) Yaara Yaara (hum tum)/Chanda Chamke (Fanaa) --- 'al-Samra Wil Beyda' (Miami Group)

These were JUST Arabic btw, and JUST 2 composers. There is a much longer list available.

Plus, difficulty in composing does not imply that one should knowingly plagiarize.

Hmmmm theek hai - adding one more to the list "Chhore Ki Baatein" From Fight Club - original song is by Ali Zafar - thankfully Pritam gave him credit for this 😛

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Posted: 19 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: T.

1) I never said ALL are copied. I meant that originality has become a rarity these days.

2) I never said we dont have any talent, so kindly avoid taking my statement out of its original context.

3) I disagree - many of the popular songs ARE copied. For example: Pritam's Gangster is a complete rip-off Album. I just found out and I'm not too happy about it.

ya ur right!! u didn't say k all r copied! i accept its me only who said dat.......u tuk it wrong actually! wat i meant ws k da way u were saying it k copying has becum a rage so.......it does mean k All r copied na!!

My dear! yea! u didn't at all say k we dnt have ny talent..!! i just had my say..n i didn't say it referring 2 ur post..atleast dis statement of mine! u only n only said k 'copying' is alll dere now-a-days so 2 dat i said k den it really meanz k we r becuming shrt of 'talent'...!!! i just meant dis...!!! RELAX PLZ!

YA YA! ure right dere too..!! all da songs which get popular r copied by one /da other songs............!! evenb da tone /melody of da song in da film 'ASHIQ bnaya apne' .....as "Dillagi mein jo beet jaye zindagi hai."....its melody is being copied frm a Paki pop song by ALI zafar...which is orginally as " Rangeen hai tu rangoon se b zyada..."!!frm album Huqa PANI..!!😳

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Posted: 19 years ago
#24
i've noticed the copying too... and its not only arabian songs or pakistani
songs that the MD's have copied...there are a bunch of english songs too...

i guess its just cuz its getting harder to be original these days...

as for remixes, i really think they spoil the song... but in a way, remixes are
ok because at least the younger generation gets to hear really good old
songs... im part of this too... most of the old songs that i know are the ones
that have been remixed and after hearing the remix, i look for the original
version of the song... so in a way, remixes help the younger generation hear
really good old songs
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Posted: 19 years ago
#25

Hum first of all its a very hot topic for dicussion...Thanks to Evilgenius for starting this topic.

Personally I prefer original tracks..but I feel quality of Remix depends on the quality of the remixer.A talented remixer can make even a ordinary original track a chart blaster..on the other hand an ordinary remixer can make a original golden track a pathetic one..However we cannot deny that the remix songs have its own class of audience and is very popular among them.

Now about copying songs..what is actually plagriasm.I am agreed with Jem

"Sorry to say but do any of you realise how difficult it is to compose a song (in this day & age) w/out being inspired by any other songs? Believe me, it is extremely very difficult - which is why we are finding arabic etc inspirations in our songs these days!😳"

See there are only 7 note in the sargam.Sa,Re, Ga, Ma,Pa,Dha, Ni...all the tracks are basically based on permutaion and combination of this 7 basic notes only...so some tracks may seems familiar...but its not plagriasm.Again if someone gets attracted to some tracks, gets inspired his future tracks may be somewhat similar to that tracks..its again is not plagriasm,but obviously is someone adopts a tracks with its each and every note....then obviously its a plagriasm.


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Posted: 19 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: SpoILed BraT


i guess its just cuz its getting harder to be original these days...

Ya right! ppl nw in muzik industry jst dnt get to use their minds!!! they jst depend upon 'ALready coookd things'!! they jst dnt make use of their own minds and hence use 'Other ppl's mind's idea's !!!!its disgusting!!! i guess 2dya's lyricists n muzik.dir. have 4gotten wats meant by "Originality!!"!!!😡

Originally posted by: SpoILed BraT


but in a way, remixes are
ok because at least the younger generation gets to hear really good old
songs...so in a way, remixes help the younger generation hear
really good old songs

I wonder!! remixing is the only way 4 introducing da gr8 golden old songs 2 our SMS-Gen. !!??????😕 but they jst dotn get to remix all da songs....but oly a few gd ones??!! waht abt da rest ????????/ they will remain unlistened and unrecognizable a,onmg our SMS-GEN.!!!!!😕😳

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Posted: 19 years ago
#27
i didnt say remixing is the only way... but its a good one... i mean, the
younger generation likes things faster and maybe they like their music to be
a little faster too... a lot of the old songs are quite slow so they prefer the
remixes...

im not exactly for remixing but im not completely against it either... what i
hate most about remixed songs tho are the videos that come with them... i
dont see why they need to sell the song by having half naked girls in the
music video of the song
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Posted: 19 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: Evilgenius_S.S™

Sorry to say yaar - but we don't know which song was recorded first - till we don't know this, we cannot say either has copied 😉

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Posted: 19 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: Jem4Himesh

Sorry to say yaar - but we don't know which song was recorded first - till we don't know this, we cannot say either has copied 😉

YAA ur'e right!! we cnt say which is copid or which 1 not! which 1 is original n which 1 is not!!! but u knw wen we cum 2knw of it..k ya its been copied..! lyk wen T. postd a list of songs dat were copied frm arabis/african's...i ws shockd ..u knw..! da songs dat r immensely popular r copied!!!--it hurts u knw .😳 wrna ...weneva u listen to those songs...(dt we now knw were copied).....u feel k hw much orginlaity is still dere in our lyricists/MUZIK DIR...!! n u feel kind proud of it..bt wen u cme 2 knw k its been coopied .to............its all bad bad feeling !!😳

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Posted: 19 years ago
#30
i guess we can still say that lyricists are original... just not the composers...
cuz if the song was originally in arabic then the lyricists must have written
new hindi lyrics for the song ryt?

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