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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonali.19281


what are the odds.. the article got the facts a week late😆coz IMV asked Sabs darling to stay back last thursday.. but i defo think conference jhatka is just prelude.. finale has a bit more time.. and If S darling stays back again it only means VS still wont have their "CLOSURE TALK" now thts more gayi bhains paani mein for me😆.. IMVs plan toh I can depend on anyday for fultoo entertainment quotient..



she is going to stay back again 🤣 abh kya hoga Vaibav ka 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: R3b3l_Pr1nc3s5

the article said Sabina will decide to move out of the Virani house soon after the press conference but IM Virani will stop her and ask both Sabina and Vicky to stay for a few more days 🤣


i forgot to add that 😆 lol


are the makers out of BRILLIANT IDEAS to match up IMVs calibre of band bajaana or wat.. tht they are delaying it.. or they wanna give this more time for D to come around and figure things.. and contest IMVs moves in her own way.. such tht it becomes a battle of wits btw IMV-D..😆 I am ok with all tht.. unless they dont make us sit thro 15 mins of VS ka pyar and Sabina ke endless phalsafey in each and every epi.. let the cunning mind and the risk management take over plz.. enough of dil se dil tak..😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: R3b3l_Pr1nc3s5



she is going to stay back again 🤣 abh kya hoga Vaibav ka 😆


arey naadan balika..😆 Vaibhav ki choro.. socho ab apna kya hoga.. 😆 few more days of this endless beyond elasticity stretched track.. upar se JN torture.. shudders.. my only hope is a IMV-D contest here😉
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonali.19281


arey naadan balika..😆 Vaibhav ki choro.. socho ab apna kya hoga.. 😆 few more days of this endless beyond elasticity stretched track.. upar se JN torture.. shudders.. my only hope is a IMV-D contest here😉



😆 and u frgt to add that gola FBs too😲 nahiii😆 we cant bear FBs of gola😆

i wish D finds out the truth by herself.😊 its high time to get some twist in the story⭐️
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Alright.. A long day at work.. and loads of social commitments aka friday nite partying later.. I sit back and as promised to Kools try to make sense (more like all the best to those who are reading😆)

If you really wanna know my ideology of letting go.. setting someone/something free and moving on..

So this being the topic.. before I rant away few disclaimers.. my philosophy is mostly applicable to all relationships in life including the one very imp one (relationship with work) and not limited to LOVE.. pray I am too thick hearted to understand LOVE and all tht it entails.. so forgive my sheer lack of calibre there..

havign said that.. let me just finish off something thats easy to put across.. moving ON for me is a gross misnomer.. coz its a logical fallacy.. it is more like MOVING WITH..

one of my fave Sabina scene.. as she left VDs wedding in the taxi.. after replying to Baa's question of where will you head now.. she had said.. I will MOVE AHEAD WITH my memories.. in some ways her reminiscence in the cab looked like those of fond and precious memories.. she was taking with her.. I felt like there was a sense of peace she would achieve.. coz she had tht inner strength.. having said that.. I am definitely disappointed now..

Secondly LETTING GO.. ahaaa my fav and much deliberated upon concept.. coz I question myself on it EVERY DAY.. on some levels.. On the outset Kools let me tell you.. your long rant on jutsifying Sabina's letting go was on a completely different tangent than mine.. yours was logistical and factual while mine is anything but that.. its purely psychological..albeit its not that I wld have not taken the logistics into account.. and hence I see no need of you to justify Sabina's intention time and again.. coz I need none.. I have said it long back😉.. I am absent-minded for sure.. but not fickle minded😆

Letting go on easy terms is related to a sense of Detachment.. and totally on theory of relativity.. in any equation/relationship.. there is this big thing called EXPECTATION.. and its 2 fold

expectation from the other -which in my case is rather low.. (my colossal arrogance prevailing)

expectation from SELF- you know the ans to tht when it comes to me.. I AM extremely harsh on myself.. and I am in this continuously battle on most days to practice balancing it out.. coz a stringent self expectation is more dangerous to the equation progression..so on those levels again I see Sabina wanting.. and Devki liberated..now coming to the context..

setting someone/something free and moving on..

You definitely took this as setting the other free.. yes thts true.. Devki set VV free from her expectations very easily.. coz obv she had no command over it.. like you specified.. Sabina was stronger in being able to set VV free from her life, mind.. etc.. and tht was a conscious choice..

what I was stressing here is setting YOURSELF free from your own expectations and burden..

Lets take the easy case.. I was first annoyed tht Devki has not talked to VV as a friend.. but is trying to make sense of it thro talking to others.. but I have come to the conclusion that even as a friend its NOT HER PLACE.. to help VV out of this mess.. esp coz he doesnt want to involve her.. her line abt.. HE DOESNT WANNA SHARE HIS DREAMS WITH ME.. did hit me hard.. so on some levels she and even me.. had taken their friendship a little too seriously.. but it has its own boundaries.. and very rightly D doesnt wanna overstep it although she does care a lot.. she reminded me of Charu- I will stand outside the boundary and worry for you.. but she has effectively less expectations from herself and has on some level set herself free and LET GO of this need to help her friend coz she knows its not her place.. and she cant.. if he ever need her in any capacity.. she will be there.. but she has consciously decided not to crowd his burdened psyche..

now coming to Sabina- she has rightly set VV free from her expectations.. but has she set herself free from her own.. I think NOT.. she is rather harsh on herself and taking herself a little too seriously in the matter.. by her own admission.. when VV asks her in their frist re-meeting if she has moved on.. she mentally confessed she tried to detach spiritually but cldnt.. and obv tht makes her wary.. abt VVs edgy feelings.. understandable.. runnig away non-tactfully obv was a consequence of tht.. farcically telling him to move on every time for his own good.. hmm chalo well intended..

but to what extent does she expect from herself in this matter.. to help D.. to help VD.. IMO strictly its NOT HER PLACE.. she has to set herself FREE from this constant burden of undoing her love in VVs mind.. like VO told her.. dont live with this burden.. when I said self destruction I did not mean taking a bullet.. tht was instincts.. I meant a conscious sacrifice of one self.. when she paid heed to IMVs request.. she fully understands the repercussions.. I wont even go to her sense of accountability.. towards VO.. by her own admission she wants to try and talk VV out of this mess no matter what happens to her.. some may say is SELFLESS LOVE.. to me its utter suicide..

w/e she said in the conference was not coz she meant it.. she said it coz VV needed to hear tht.. her impulsive need to help them has crowded her own psyche.. its a vicious cycle unless she sets herself free of her own assumed burden.. this relationship or its strings will be attached..

in CPs words kabhi kabhat koshish karna galat hota hain.. samay ke pravaah ko behne dena chahiye..

she did heed to Sid's words till VVs outburst and IMVs return sent her into this relapse.. at this point I wanna know to what extent will she keep trying.. and at what point will she give up.. coz everytime IMV wants to stop her he can.. given the context she hasn't gotten to talk to VV.. and he knows tht wayy too well.. her achilles heel like I said

compare and contrast to CP.. in spite of active crowding of her space by IMV (which VV still hasnt done.. he is rather passive brooder) CP did not budge but at the same time did not feel the constant need to drill sense in IMV.. she made one attempt as a part of her karma.. coz she obv tht this man deserved it and it was one thing tht CP had to do for Parimita to be free.. and hence she gave her journal.. but in spite of tht when IMV disregarded tht. .she made no attempt.. coz to her.. her deal of the bargain was done with.. she had no more expectations from herself in this matter.. and when forced she left.. more so coz she felt some threatening attachment to her daughter and a guilt towards it.. she had made a conscious choice and lived with it..

in short both CP and D have the ability to make peace with themselves when confronted with adversity.. which Sabina can't or hasn't yet.. her sense of self detachment is relatively less.. and letting go for her is tougher..

and its not a general psyche.. coz her sense of accountability towards her unfinished movies.. are not so colossal.. somewhere she has placed this sense of accountability towards the man she loves and his welfare.. above and beyond her own welfare.. and that too me is unreal and I find it hard to relate to..in terms of sanity..

IF you got to the end.. of all this.. I commend your patience.. did not expect you to understand at all.. although I did make a honest effort.. its just manifestations of reasonings and observations of real life incidents.. and studying affects of human psychology in clinical medicine that makes me think this way😉
Edited by sonali.19281 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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oh so vo and s r still there😆may be imv wants the fire to burn out totally isiliye rok liya

the best part was s and vo will think imv is up to something but will be clueless🤣
really hope by the end of this track d gets to know abt the reality of s or else confession to vv fast, some good twist is needed now,
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: intruderfast

oh so vo and s r still there😆may be imv wants the fire to burn out totally isiliye rok liya

the best part was s and vo will think imv is up to something but will be clueless🤣
really hope by the end of this track d gets to know abt the reality of s or else confession to vv fast, some good twist is needed now,


egjactly my sentiment.. pak chuki hu yaar.. IMO VV and Sabina have nothing more to offer to this track.. ab jo bhi action hain D and iMV ki taraf se hi hona chahiye.. and it'll be more interesting if D in the bargain as usual stands against IMV..🤣 bina jaaney as usual. IMV ke jee ka janjaal D.. whom he in some ways loves in his life now😉.. tht'll be more interesting.. VS ka closure ke saath IMV has to keep D out of this mess.. double challenge for him.. and more the challenges for IMV more interesting it gets..In this track I guess D will sorta find out what IMV is truly capable of.. 😆 and in JN track she will fully find out.. as per reports earlier.. IDK kuch na kuch bada dhamaka is in the offing buddy.. 😆

P.S whether she finds out abt Sabina and VV i am least interested abt rite now.. I m more excited abt her finding out abt CP.. does a mental zumba on that thought.. paving way to her finally finding out abt IMV-CP.. 6948274856 khushi ke aansoon.. and then maybe she will see IMV for what he is.. like CP did.. and she will be his redemption.. what CP cldnt do her daughter will do.. coz doesnt CP always teach her to spread love.. the love tht IMV needs.. to make peace with life and its unfairness.. it may just come from D.. sigh.. now those are things I want to see.. 😍
Edited by sonali.19281 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Sonali u talk abt S setting herself free...i'm totally lost abt psycological talks nd all dat...I tend 2 take things at face-value nd whn u say dat up 2 a point CP tried 2 reason wid IMV, but whn she realised d futility of it all she gave him her book nd left. Well S too frm d moment she came face 2 face wid V nd D, has been trying 2 make her getaway...but fate (or rather d makers😉) don't want her out of d picture so soon. Also as far as IMV is concerned, although he is pinning away for CP, he has moved on wid his life...has established an extremely successful business house, got married, had children...basically done d whole 9 yards. Dat is NOT d case wid V.
S initailly guessed nd later after reading D's card knew 4 sure dat V's marraige life was a farce nd dat he was living too much in d past. Only after dat did she panic nd took d drastic measure of bringing in a fake pati into d picture. As d saying goes hindsight is better thn foresight, so it wasn't d best of plans nd undoubtedly dat is gonna cost S as well as VO.
OK its a moot point abt d kind of life S has lead since she left 4 S'pore as u rightly said dat it wasn't shown...but frm wat has been shown, it's evident dat she hasn't been pinning away for V. Her making a new life beyond V's reach was an indication of her self-preservation. Even b4 she was shown as quite a loner...so it isn't like she gv up her family nd all. Also as far as her career is concerned, IMV had infact accused of her trying 2 latch up younger nd richer businessman now dat her career was waning nd there was little chance of revival. So it was a smart nd practical move on her part 2 start afresh in a new place, free frm all her past baggages nd d media glare.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Very beautiful answer sonali and thank you for replying in detail , i appreciate that .

I read it and re read it and I DO understand what u said .

I agree with you . She has NOT set herself free from the burden of being accountable to V's problem . What she has done is attempt to let go factually , but has not succeeded psychologically . Indeed its NOT her place to try and get them back together ...and indeed she should simply state her decision , and walk off . Thats what CP did .

But CP is a sanyasi . She has renounced accountability to ALL ...not just to her former lover IMV .😊 She has renounced accountability to even a little girl ...Devaki , who was left in the clutches of an alcoholic father to fend for herself with her own karma . She renounced accountability to her old father 's grief ...she knew very well he would perhaps die of shock upon hearing of her tragic death in the accident . IMV is door ki baat ...renouncing accountability to little Devaki's burden was far more tougher ...and If she could do that , she REALLY renounced the world ...she took SANYAS .

Sabina is NOT a sanyasi . She is very much in the common human world . Why expect this sanyasi mentality from her ?😊 Her story , in my opinion , shud be viewed like any other common human's story . Its her struggle with HER pain and Her Love .

Just like IMV has HIS story of HIS love and HIS pain . Its His struggle .

Not every one can be like CP and set themselves free this way . Very few people in this world will be able to come to that level where they will be able to let go of their accountability to human relationships .

For CP to come to this point ...this renunciation point , she endured terrible PAIN on every level . It was NOT just her love story with IMV that made her renounce the world . She had a bad marraige and a brutal alcoholic husband ...her life sunk to a zero level . So much so that she welcomed the accident as a release from her first life .

Sabina has NOT led that life . She has not married AT all . she has no children ...she is financially independent unlike CP . CP's financial dependency and traditional outlook of staying put in a marraige arranged by father , however bad it is by giving up protest of ANY kind led to the breaking point and her subsequent renunciation . Sabina , who is a film actress , moves in bohemian circles and HAS the capability to walk out on any situation in llife ...She has the capacity to care a fig about social norms and divorce a husband like Dali and stay like a single mother with her daughter .

CP did NOT . Sabina's financial independence and strength binds her to the world with the false sense [ spiritually speaking } that I am the Doer ...which happens with hundreds of human beings . CP 's utter helplessness freed her from this sense of Doership ...she understood that nothing is in one's hands ...simply accept all that comes ur way and walk with the flow . Paradoxically her helplessness set her free .

But Sabina who is anything but a helpless woman ...retains the sense of Doership . So does IMV , as his financial strength gives him that false ego , that he can indeed effect change .

You urself said that each one's individual experiences shape each one's thinking . When CP's experiences r vastly different from Sabina's ...why expect same attitude to life from them ?😊

The commonality between the 3 women ...CP , Sabina and Rajvi is that they have men passionately in love with them , but they have opted to accept what fate ordained for them . But it ends there , this commonality . HOW they deal with this letting go process is strictly individualistic . CP and Rajvi r the types who listened to their fathers and accepted what came their way ...neither r both financially independent nor non traditional . CP's fate was bad , her husband turned out to be a first class loser ...Rajvi's hubby was good , and bearable . CP chose to run away , Rajvi found sticking on tolerable .

The mental detachment of all 3 women should not be compared in my opinion ...as their lives r vastly different . The pain levels r different ...the circumstances r different .

The only common factor is they all 3 have marvellous control and the ability to endure .

Sabina was going to go back . The card changed things . It induced a sense of guilt in her ...a sense of accountability not to V but to D . He was NOT giving that young girl a proper marraige as he was NOT over HER . A compassionate woman , she was stirred , and she decided to put things right for D .

The sense of guilt was not misplaced nor was it megalomania . It was indeed the truth ...V took zero interest in D coz he loved Sabina . He was simply not getting over her .

The sense of guilt was human . CP did away with all senses of guilt when she renounced the world ...even with the sense of guilt of abandoning Devaki .But thats not an oridinary human reaction at all .😊 Its happens once in a million ...expecting Sabina to have this detachment mentally is unrealistic . Even Rajvi will not have it ...she plodded in her loveless marraige for 8 years only due to her attachment to her child .

If what Sabina is doing is nothing short of sucide , what CP did with her entire life is nothing short of suicide too . Never protesting , suffering alcoholic abuse , giving up her daughter and walking out ...till she found her peace , she too voluntarily suffered .😊

One day Sabina too will find her peace , . But I will not expect CP's level of detachment from her right now .

As far as her speech goes , I do NOT find her lying . She made two references in her speech about LOve as SHE comprehended it ...

MAR MITNA ...which she practically practised herself as she took a bullet literally for Vaibhav

Letting go ...which she practically , if not mentally , practised herself .

As far as Devki goes . its too early to predict that she will have the same level of detachment as her mother and will psychologically let go just like her mother . Firstly , she has nothing yet to let go of . Secondly , the sense of detachment is arrived at due to individualistic experiences , it is not inherited .😆😆 and Devki's life has been VERY different from CP's . She has studied in London , She is financially independent and she is in love with a man who does not return it ...unlike her mom who was a simple stay at home mom and had been in love with a man who returned her love with passionate ferocity ...IMV .

I would not be surprised if D 's way of letting go wud be entirely different than her mom's . She IS different compared to her mom in some ways ...IMV once commented on it . He told her CP did NOT have this ZID in her ...she simply accepted life as it is . You are different . IMV's words .😊

Like Sabina D does have the tendency to 'set things right ' for others . Sid's painting , for instance .😉

So lets wait and see .














Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago
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saboo& v pakaoo...love ishtory with the help of tulsi maa ladala" bechara vooo"they should stop this pakaooo ilu..ilu. i think they would show "charu-imv-cp" lov...story.a mature lov story where a wife worried about her hub...ex..lov ..returning...aft..25 year...and more interesting devki & cp emotional track...i want to see devki & imv...fight...more ...na ki ...".saboo...dream "gola" & thakela vaibhav" lov...monday. ko kahin imv
ka bomb fuse na ho jaye...(by ...lov...devki ) ...as per my 6..7..8..9..10 sense...

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