raj is guilty but not in love

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Posted: 16 years ago
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hi friends after seeing today's episode i feel raj has more guilt in him and not love for kranti. i mean even in that last self introspection scene he is more concerned abt proving that he is not some sleazy,cheap guy who avenged kranti by taking advantage of her physically.he says "mujhse galti ho gayi" " par maine tumhe dhoka nahin diya" so even he feels that he got carried away ,he even calls that cnite a mistake and all he wants to explain her is that things got out of hand but he had not done this on purpose.i think a no of people feel that raj's changed behaviour post cnite is coz of the fact that he is in love wid kranti but i think it has more to do wid guilt than love it's for the first time that raj is feeling guilty for wat he has done to her. raj has never considered himself guilty for all the accusations kranti has previously hurled at him ( getting her tauji killed, press case etc) as he felt that he had a valid reason for the same i.e. he did everything for his father's rai bahaduri plus his ideologies were different from kranti.If raj had been in luv wid kranti he wud have tried to understand her pov and pain,i mean the way he assumes that kranti will forgive him shows that he has no inkling of her pain he is only concerned about explaining that he is not a cheap person and that he had not planned it.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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i completly agree wit u...................i have written almost the same thing in the update post ..........tht even in the last scene he was completly like .....me n myself .........he was hurt of the accusations made by kranti and cudnt take the ilzaam of being cheap and characterless and tht seemed the main reason disturbing rajveer!!
his thots have nothing to do wit kranti's pains ..............its juss tht this time her acusation has broken him cuz it now questioned his chatcter and honour.....which got completly shattered being labelled as a rapist!!
so he is more like im not like tht rather than thinking wat she is going thru
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Posted: 16 years ago
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See the main problem is earlier Raj knew that Kranti hated him because he had given death sentence to her Sohan Tauji and etc..etcc...all that...So Raj was quite ok with her hatred towards him just because he knew that the hatred was completely justified there from Kranti's POV😃
This time Raj can see that Kranti is hating him for something which he has not done at all...Kranti is hating him because she thinks that just to take revenge from her,he took advantage of the situation and got her drunk and then played with her Izzat..So this time Kranti hatred towards him was not at all justified and this is what is killing him from inside😭
He was not considering the night as a mistake but after seeing Kranti's outburst and accusations he is thinking that mayb he did a mistake by losing control on himself😭...if u remember in the morning Raj was also searching for Kranti besides him in the tabela😉..Why will he do that if it was just lust or attraction of one night ??😃..then at night also the way he was removing her payal,giving those gentle kisses on her shoulder,then removing that kaanta from her foot,then carassing her hand to provide her the warmth...all these r signs of love and not lust😳..
The problem right now is even Raj doesn't know that whatever happened at night was basically his inner feelings and love for Kranti...he is just thinking everything from Kranti's POV..he is just remembering those harsh words that Kranti told him..he is just remembering how Kranti indirectly called him a rapist which he is not..😭..thats why he was telling to himself "Why so much hatred" because he feels that this time her hatred is not all justified for him😭
I agree in the garden he was talking only about himself but thats because he is blaming himself only for the entire night fiasco and not once he said that "Kranti was also drunk..she seduced me...so its her fault as well"..If Raj would hv said these words then we could hv called him a bit selfish and we could hv said that even after seeing Kranti's tears Raj is still playing this blame game..but thankfully he is not this time😃..
For the first time Raj is actually admitting his fault even though Kranti was also involved but not once he tried to blame her😳...For once Raj is feeling guilty and sad about his own deeds😳..for once he is hving some sort of realization at least😳...I think it will take some time before he realizes that its nothing but Love😳
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Posted: 16 years ago
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I feel this whole Raj retrospecting about the c-nite is again a blunder of the creatives ..........

As usual they dont know what to do with him now ........
They know exactly what to make Kranti say .............. ie. make her cry and scream and accuse ........ Not only is she blaming him but also herself ...... they have covered her part of the act very well ......
But what about Raj ?????
From the morning after .... they haven't let him have a word edge-wise.....
For him the bathroom door was shut ...... she threatens to commit suicide if he tries to talk to her ..........
And now the bedroom door is being shut too .....
And what do they make him brood about ???? just one thing "mein aisa nahi hoon "................ and they give him a stupid dialog like "why the hatred ?" ....... can you imagine that ???? is it logical that he askes this stupid question ?? as if he doesn't know ........
Ok; if he's not like this...... what is it then ?? .....
Dont you think they owe it to us to give his thots also ?????? In a logical manner ???
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Posted: 16 years ago
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yeah..kaake is not in love...he's only guilty and perhaps ashamed😕
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06

He was not considering the night as a mistake but after seeing Kranti's outburst and accusations he is thinking that mayb he did a mistake by losing control on himself😭...if u remember in the morning Raj was also searching for Kranti besides him in the tabela😉..Why will he do that if it was just lust or attraction of one night ??😃..then at night also the way he was removing her payal,giving those gentle kisses on her shoulder,then removing that kaanta from her foot,then carassing her hand to provide her the warmth...all these r signs of love and not lust😳.. just becoz raj was gentle wid her and didnot behave like a brute during that lovemaking act doesnot mean that he loves her he is shown to b a gentleman and iam not saying it was not lust that led to that nite but it was certainly not love it was sumthing that just happened.
I agree in the garden he was talking only about himself but thats because he is blaming himself only for the entire night fiasco and not once he said that "Kranti was also drunk..she seduced me...so its her fault as well"..If Raj would hv said these words then we could hv called him a bit selfish and we could hv said that even after seeing Kranti's tears Raj is still playing this blame game..but thankfully he is not this time😃..For the first time Raj is actually admitting his fault even though Kranti was also involved but not once he tried to blame her😳...For once Raj is feeling guilty and sad about his own deeds😳..for once he is hving some sort of realization at least😳...I think it will take some time before he realizes that its nothing but Love😳 the only reason he is not blaming kranti is coz he also feels that kranti was not in her senses and thats y she let him come so close to her and he also noes that unlike her he was in his senses and if he wanted things wud not have gone so far,he is only being reasonable in not blaming her

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bugger

i completly agree wit u...................i have written almost the same thing in the update post ..........tht even in the last scene he was completly like .....me n myself .........he was hurt of the accusations made by kranti and cudnt take the ilzaam of being cheap and characterless and tht seemed the main reason disturbing rajveer!!

his thots have nothing to do wit kranti's pains ..............its juss tht this time her acusation has broken him cuz it now questioned his chatcter and honour.....which got completly shattered being labelled as a rapist!!
so he is more like im not like tht rather than thinking wat she is going thru

bugger actually earlier raj always accepted his eeds towards krantii.
remember prem babu's case he said to krantii that-"aap sachi ho ke bhi jeet gayi aur mein galat hote hue bhi jeet gaya"
then at buddha house he said to krantii that "haan mainae dhoka kiya something like biki to aap bhi hai chand rupayon ke liye."
bu now krantii is accusing him for something he did not done.
she is blaming him calling him characterless
so he is saying all these word.
and just wait and watch definitely he will realing krantii's pain in the coming episodes.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06

See the main problem is earlier Raj knew that Kranti hated him because he had given death sentence to her Sohan Tauji and etc..etcc...all that...So Raj was quite ok with her hatred towards him just because he knew that the hatred was completely justified there from Kranti's POV😃 agree he was comfortable wid all the accusations.

This time Raj can see that Kranti is hating him for something which he has not done at all...Kranti is hating him because she thinks that just to take revenge from her,he took advantage of the situation and got her drunk and then played with her Izzat..So this time Kranti hatred towards him was not at all justified and this is what is killing him from inside😭yaar he is not at all characterless .krantii know it very well.
he never tried to seduce her.never done anything wid any other woma.y she is blaming him ?awwwwww
He was not considering the night as a mistake but after seeing Kranti's outburst and accusations he is thinking that mayb he did a mistake by losing control on himself😭...if u remember in the morning Raj was also searching for Kranti besides him in the tabela😉..Why will he do that if it was just lust or attraction of one night ??😃..then at night also the way he was removing her payal,giving those gentle kisses on her shoulder,then removing that kaanta from her foot,then carassing her hand to provide her the warmth...all these r signs of love and not lust😳..i think he was loving her .i mean that was his love for her.
we all have seen his expressions.but krantii's expressions was definitely not of love.it was of satisfaction,lust,passion etc.
so who is the guilty huh
The problem right now is even Raj doesn't know that whatever happened at night was basically his inner feelings and love for Kranti...he is just thinking everything from Kranti's POV..he is just remembering those harsh words that Kranti told him..he is just remembering how Kranti indirectly called him a rapist which he is not..😭..thats why he was telling to himself "Why so much hatred" because he feels that this time her hatred is not all justified for him😭yaar i think he forgets all the earlier mishaps .he should realize it first naa
I agree in the garden he was talking only about himself but thats because he is blaming himself only for the entire night fiasco and not once he said that "Kranti was also drunk..she seduced me...so its her fault as well"..If Raj would hv said these words then we could hv called him a bit selfish and we could hv said that even after seeing Kranti's tears Raj is still playing this blame game..but thankfully he is not this time😃..yaar plz use guilt concious se bahar nikalo.
For the first time Raj is actually admitting his fault even though Kranti was also involved but not once he tried to blame her😳...For once Raj is feeling guilty and sad about his own deeds😳..for once he is hving some sort of realization at least😳...I think it will take some time before he realizes that its nothing but Love😳

at least for this i am very happy.positive sign for future.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dawn Idol

And what do they make him brood about ???? just one thing "mein aisa nahi hoon "................ and they give him a stupid dialog like "why the hatred ?" ....... can you imagine that ???? is it logical that he askes this stupid question ?? as if he doesn't know ........
Ok; if he's not like this...... what is it then ?? .....
Dont you think they owe it to us to give his thots also ?????? In a logical manner ???

i totally agree wid u on this one can't these creatives give him sum other dialogues i mean all he has been saying after that tabela is "main aisa nahin hoon" as if uski sui wahan atak gayi hain. i think creatives can give him a song where he is is dancing singing "main aisa nahin hoon" (wid flashes of cnite) like hrithik did on" main aisa kyun hoon " in lakshya and plus icing on the cake was y so much hatred has he lost his memory after the tabela to b asking such stupid questions ,has the as****e forgotten all wat he has done to the gurl.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: vasantha_rao07

yeah..kaake is not in love...he's only guilty and perhaps ashamed😕



I think he is in love. For the first time he is finding kranti's hatred unbearable. earlier it was ok for him

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