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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: aahana86

hey mallu 🤗


thx hun 4 being so sweet as always 🤗 yep totally that scene so made me have goosebumps and i feel ultimately as the play happens it'd be SaJan on stage . as perhaps mayu may leave for nupur thus balancing ash as chandramukhi too who always saw dev's pain in the most rawest form

i too feel there is something lurking behind which is undisclosed and yes gunjan's eyes were so in pain as well so i think may be he was unconscious the longest as her drove and was the most hurt

perhaps this may have a DTPH type ending where the couple reunites on stage too 😳 they are after all giving a twist to devdas 😉

i agree with gunajn's line sometimes you are scared of losing the one thing you love the most and it is that fear which makes you so scared that u stay away from that thing yourself

🤣 the office scene was indeed nice and Sam blushed as did Gunji but the canteen scene 😍😳
OMG it was something else and since i am a sucker for intense moments my mind is locked in it



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omgggg aahana u r increasing my heart beats😳😳...but i wish this is true....that will be d biggest treat by cvs so far...!!😍😳

@green
i agree aahana...that scene was simply mesmerizing..!!😳



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Posted: 15 years ago
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omggggggg AAHANA awesoooome post....
really today SAJAN'S scene just stole my heart away........
it was simply eternal........and my MONAYA gave life and soul to this beautiful scene.........love them lots and lots from the core of my heart.......
and now i am eagerly waiting to know the real reason?
loved ur post to the core.........

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonali.19281

I havent seen the epi..but all I can say in brief after reading your post..is complexities in relationships are not unidimensional in reality..and great fiction imitates life although it has its own surreal flavour..

When Gunjan says she came to meet him and he wasn't there..maybe it symbolically signifies.. that she was expecting to see the old samrat she had loved but saw a man she did not recognize or relate to.. While I am not suggesting that his mother had no role in it..just blaming the mother in this scenario would just take away from the beautiful complexity woven in the past 1 month..but then again CVs have a almost clean record of messing up in the middle..and its about time..so I wont be surprised if it all boils down to one person..I was rather glad in the neel track they dint resort to the blame game..and I am hoping it doesnt come down to it now either..would just defeat the purpose of Gunjan's pain..and anguish...

Comparing to Devdas.. the SG context matched up to dev-paro in more ways than one.. well to say dev-paro separated coz of his mother again is offensive to the sensibilities of the great author..that's precisely why I don't like bollywood movies made on classics coz they just simplify each emotion..If one reads the original..it dwells in the reason being their own conflicting personalities and pride..apart from the contextual reasons.. SO in all I can only hope the basis of their separation is not made to be something trivial..like the demands or insecurities of a mother...well in any case I am already in the mode where I am ready to see anything...and not take offence 😆



beautifully said sonali...agree with ur each word. though simply seeing it we all will be happy if they give us 1 person to blame but i think that wud weaken the entire track.moreover i wud love to see sam's mom in a much more mature role..coz dats wht i expected seeing her earlier...when she was so keen on recruiting mayank.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonali.19281

I havent seen the epi..but all I can say in brief after reading your post..is complexities in relationships are not unidimensional in reality..and great fiction imitates life although it has its own surreal flavour..

When Gunjan says she came to meet him and he wasn't there..maybe it symbolically signifies.. that she was expecting to see the old samrat she had loved but saw a man she did not recognize or relate to.. While I am not suggesting that his mother had no role in it..just blaming the mother in this scenario would just take away from the beautiful complexity woven in the past 1 month..but then again CVs have a almost clean record of messing up in the middle..and its about time..so I wont be surprised if it all boils down to one person..I was rather glad in the neel track they dint resort to the blame game..and I am hoping it doesnt come down to it now either..would just defeat the purpose of Gunjan's pain..and anguish...

Comparing to Devdas.. the SG context matched up to dev-paro in more ways than one.. well to say dev-paro separated coz of his mother again is offensive to the sensibilities of the great author..that's precisely why I don't like bollywood movies made on classics coz they just simplify each emotion..If one reads the original..it dwells in the reason being their own conflicting personalities and pride..apart from the contextual reasons.. SO in all I can only hope the basis of their separation is not made to be something trivial..like the demands or insecurities of a mother...well in any case I am already in the mode where I am ready to see anything...and not take offence 😆



Sona u know what perhaps u r right i m jumping the gun 😆😆 @ bold - i agree may be cos i think pari too made this point that perhaps after 3 years when she saw him he was dancing and all - u know Dhanno dmg mjht merger epi so may be that is the reason for her words frankly at times i feel lost 😕

lets see what kind of a reason they are gonna spring upon us cos it took them 3 years apparently to realize that the body couldnt have been burned 🤣
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Seeing today's episode, I feel Gunjan will hopefully realise Samrat's pain now... As we thought, the play is helping Gunjan realise that there's so much hidden behind Samrat's smile. And ya, I don't think she meant that Samrat wasn't there when she came to meet him, but maybe she implied that she didn't recognise this Samrat after Nupur's death, cause his very face reminded him of the disaster.....

I'm so glad they're showing Gunjan ponder over what Samrat told her yesterday about life and moving on and actually following it today when she was speaking to Mayank, and today Diya's conversation with her. Yes, she is in denial, she blames Samrat for something he wasn't responsible for, and hasn't really accepted what happened.

I just hope Gunjan moves towards Samrat on her own, realising his importance in her life..... She should take the first step this time....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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an awesome topic dear😳👏👏🤗

i completely agree wid ur each n every words....n aftr reading ur post.m speechless..u said it all yar..🤗👏👏
2day again...Sajan's love n their deep pain in their heart for being separated frm eachothr for d past three yrs...burnt out completely ...as u said the way 2day sam asked her pouring out his heart dat "y u did dis to me...y u left me..alone n do u knw my pain...my condition widout u..." n she rplied "no samrat...i came everyday n ni8 for u bt u wasnt der😲...der was someone else n u hav totally changed" ....actually nw i got it...y in S2, gunjan always use to say to samrat...."main ab chasmish nai rahi...aur jis samrat se mein pyar karti thi woh b is accident mein margaya"
..i think mayank too knws bout it(bout d dialouges vch gunjan said today...dat "i did came everyday n ni8 bt u wer nt there")...do u remember...once Mayank said...."agar samrat aur gunjan milgaye toh...nai ye thik nai hoga"....
means m sure there is something very fishy behind their separation😕...n like u, me too feels dat Samrat's mum is d reason for their separation...n Sajan r nt aware bout...😲 n ya his mom selected riya...who was rich so dat more funds can get due to her!!!
n his mom was only d one naa who gav dat pendant n ring to Samrat..
n so all this is pointing towards his Mom....dat his mom could b in a negative role/grey shaded in separating sajan n so dats d reason y gunjan is more angry n hates sam dis much...😕
for ur wonderful topic...i would like to add here this lines....too
"d best thing bout loving n being hurt is dat you get to know wat true love really is. For as gold is tested in fire, n so vl love be perfected in pain."
this bove stated lines completely suits to our sajan's jannuable n true love for eachother...
i think..this lines not jst for Sajan's current track bt also in Sajan-Neil track, Gunjan's accident track...too huh...😉
Edited by meera_20 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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aahana honey i edited on page 1 do check
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hey aahana 🤗,
Well today we saw the fire in our januables which poured out. Samrats eyes ful of questions and Gunjan disheartend tears. that question of Samrat, why weren't you there pierced through her heart and her answer, i was there day and night but you weren't, there was it was someone else.
I had just commented on Aashi's post andi think itcould go that she found his mom or she saw samrat flirting with another girl in his drunk state imaging that the other grl was gunjan which then followed Sam's moms harsh words.
Either way i Gunjan was heart, maybe more then samrat??, samrat was living with guilt he had the ultimate solution which was death, he had a feeling which was guilt and i must say it is one of the worst feeling anyone could get but Gunjan she had no feeling.
I remember someone saying that in the starting of season2 Gunjan's eyes were blank, no twinkle no feeling in them as if they were dead. she had no solution to her feeling but then again when did she have feeling. She couldn't kill herself because of her jiju, as he needed support, and if you guys notice Gunjan never said she blamed Samrat for the accient, he just reminded her of it. so there has to be another reason for Gunjan to hate samrat to this extent. Even if Gunjan wanted to leave him she would have told him herself or atleast stayed until he felt better because Gunjan can never leave Samrat, especially in that state.
@ aa123.80 ( sorry don't know your name) i like your point maybe after that accident samrat had changed for Gunjan as it represented that unfortunate day for her, so she could have meant it in that way
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonali.19281

I havent seen the epi..but all I can say in brief after reading your post..is complexities in relationships are not unidimensional in reality..and great fiction imitates life although it has its own surreal flavour..

When Gunjan says she came to meet him and he wasn't there..maybe it symbolically signifies.. that she was expecting to see the old samrat she had loved but saw a man she did not recognize or relate to.. While I am not suggesting that his mother had no role in it..just blaming the mother in this scenario would just take away from the beautiful complexity woven in the past 1 month..but then again CVs have a almost clean record of messing up in the middle..and its about time..so I wont be surprised if it all boils down to one person..I was rather glad in the neel track they dint resort to the blame game..and I am hoping it doesnt come down to it now either..would just defeat the purpose of Gunjan's pain..and anguish...

Comparing to Devdas.. the SG context matched up to dev-paro in more ways than one.. well to say dev-paro separated coz of his mother again is offensive to the sensibilities of the great author..that's precisely why I don't like bollywood movies made on classics coz they just simplify each emotion..If one reads the original..it dwells in the reason being their own conflicting personalities and pride..apart from the contextual reasons.. SO in all I can only hope the basis of their separation is not made to be something trivial..like the demands or insecurities of a mother...well in any case I am already in the mode where I am ready to see anything...and not take offence 😆

sona and aani i have one more angle to the same ....

Sona agreed maybe it was meant to be symbolic... i have 2 imp questions here ... as far i have seen i did not recollect anywhere where they showed Sam searching for Gunjan for past three years... He has been in guilt and self destruction, and the sam we know he would have moved earth and heaven to meet her ... but then there has to be a reason as why did he not search her for the past 3yrs...? and here is what strikes me that may be Gunjan was expecting everyday immediately after the accident , Sam to come and meet and console her and mayank... which he never did...that's why she is saying ki "tum balad gaye Samrat".. and why did Samrat not come that's still not answered because before going into self destruction he would have surely did his best to meet her? if he did not even try to meet them is not because of the guilt but the things which were shown to him. May be here is where his mom comes into the picture ....may be his mom took him back to London for few days. Or as all of us think, Sam mom would be the hurdle....

Or as Sona said it's their way of contextual circumstances or reason for their separation.. That is may be Sam and his mom went to meet gunjan and they were not allowed by bui or bauji and hence Samrat never tried again to meet them.. 😕 may be they blamed and hold him responsible for the accident and not allowing him to meet mayank and Gunjan would have lead to his self destruction and he not returning back to them.. Because remember he said before that u all left me and did not even give me a chance to ask forgiveness....

I find this possibility of bui/bauji .... more because---1st it was Sam mom who was more interested in mayank, coming back and Sam getting back his friends ... So she being the direct reason seems low... may be subsequently yes ...

2nd the Sam we know would have moved heaven to meet Mayu and Gunjan and only one person who could have stopped him was bauji and his respect for him...

3rd when Sam does not come to see Gunjan and mayank , it would have been the reasons of their anger towards him , for not meeting their expectations of Sam not being there for them when they need him the most ..... Which in turn makes them blame him and make them bitter towards Sam.. May be as simple as that --- they would have tried meeting him, but was not possible because of Sam mom...

So my vote goes for bauji and bui as circumstantial elements. Because if u see the reasons for SaJan separation form start its always been their circumstantial perception than the third party element...

oki let me stop before my mind chuns out one more angle😆😆😆
Edited by aarthi.ramani - 15 years ago

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