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Posted: 15 years ago
hey Naveen 🤗so glad u could post today was missing ur take, u post the loveliest things abt SaJan 😊
& yes i agre with ya totally Gunjan isnt the marriage obsessed type but ya Bui's fear with her teeno betiyon ki shaadi karaungi crusade in full swing she's scared she's d next target
also she's got her love after so much wait & pain she's afraid of losing Sam now more than ever as now he has also loved her back , to have to lose a one sided love is painful enuff but when u lose a love returned it breaks u down
& Ya Sam may come around , he's not afraid of d marriage but still i agree wih him to marry at 18 is nonsense also d reason being as absrud as bui's interference
to marry u have to be in love but also be ready to take responsibilities & know life's not gonna be always a bed of roses also they have barely dated, as friends thou they got to know each other thru & thru but as a couple things change
like when Gunji talked marriage for d first time Sam was like wow his eyes said it as he looked at her say those things so he isnt being a dhakkan here as i think rather 4 him to get panicked is right any normal guy will react like he did he does see her POV but also knows to give in to marriage 4 a wrong reason at a wrong age & time will make life worse in d long run courtesy his parents
but yes i know Gunji is right in her own ways she knows bui better & also knows her dislike 4 Sam will not make things easy 4 'em so may be she's trying to make him see things he rather ignore
but may be his Mom coming can change that - whether she likes Gunjan or not- if she does like her she may make sam see things from a girl's POV where he may know her thoughts better & ask Sam if not marry now u can get engaged 4 sure to assure u guys dont have any roadblocks & also this will safeguard ur love too , she may even speak to Bauji 4 d needed as well
& if she dislikes her - which will be chaos - as sam wont allow Gunjan to leave his life even if it means losing his mom again but i think suhaani may make er mom see why exactly sam loves Gunjan & what a nice person she is - Sam's goanna be thinking of not letting Gunjan leave his life in any case
& lastly thx am glad u think engagement is a good option & 4 agreeing with me 😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
okies..so having watched this scene like 5 times in a row, I m back after being coherent .. 😆😆

starting wit sam's most amazing dialogue of the yr ... nothing can replace this dialogue for me - jab bhi hum is chaand ko ek saath dekhenge, woh humesha ek dusre se humare dil ki baat pahuncha dega .. 😍 😍😍

and for once, of ALL the cliched 'chand' dialogues I hav ever heard of in my life .. only SaJan can make me believ that such silmy dialogues can actually seem soo real and innocent .. coz of their pure and innocent love!

this one soo absolutely and completely SUMS up their love for each other..they dont need to stay together for them to kno that thy love each other .. they dont need to TELL each other how much they love each other ... they jus kno in their hearts, minds thoughts what the other person is feeling abt them at tht very moment ... their wavelengths are at such a superb level that they jus FEEL what the other person is feeling at tht moment ... and for this, I disagree wit many here hwne they say that sam doesnt understand gunjan's POV..indeed, he does .. truly and completely .. but he diagrees wit it..

he understands it, but diagrees wit it .. she understand him, but diagrees wit it too .. thats what yest's scene was ALL abt .. and thats the most amazing thing abt them .. more than their love, they hav this HUGE amount of respect for each other ... due to which they can disagree soo many no of times, yet that doesnt spoil their equation at all .. because they kno that the other person may b right too!

and u can actually SEE this when sam says "shaadi bhi koi saath rehne ki guarantee ke saath nahin aati.." and the way he looks at her almost apologetically as tho saying 'I really really understand what u mean..but I gotta disagree wit u on this, I m soo sorry .. I really dont think that marriage is the solution for us staying together' .. he is the kinda person, who is an eternal optimist by nature .. which sometimes, is a good thing ... look at the way he consolde gunjan when she had her insecurities abt their relationship is the frst plc coz they are two different persons altogether .. and the way he said, they cannot b two different individuals, coz if they wer then they wudnt b together at tht moment in tht plc..the fact tht they are TOGETHER means that they wer meant to b..always!

gunjan is always the more mature and the realistic one ... "kyun ki hum alag ho sakte hain samrat.." some may call this pessimism .. I wud call it being realistic and aware of ur surroundings .. she knows bui's nature .. she knows abt her dislike for samrat .. she still wasnt wrong when she was insecure abt them being together because they are totally different individuals.. she always always thinks abt the future ... and thats what she does, knowing that this may pos problems in the future .. coz she is very wise! and neither is she wrong now .,.when she is telling him that they might b separated too! heck, when she sees wit her own eyes what her di is going thru ... she knows that sooner or later its her turn to get married ... and ofcourse even in her wildest dreams she cannot think of marrying anybody else but sam!

and thats where their thoughts clash - gunjan is the more reaistic one whereas sam is the eternal optimist .. and he wud do anything to remain that way, since forever .. mayb this was his way of getting over his painful childhood .. mayb after going thru so much at a young age he had decided to himself that he wud NEVER let anything go wrong in his life NOW .. he wud strive thru everything he can to make everything right for him always .. and thats why he is always so hyper when he is abt to lose gunjan from his life..coz when she is not around, nothing is right for him! as for gunjan, she has always been grounded ever since childhood and sees the world for what it is .. she, being the shy and under confident person cud never MAKE things right for her .. but then, she always accepted them as they wer without questioning their existence and moved on in her life .. becoming strong in the process!

now for the commitment issues ... neither of them ever hav it! when sam frst told her that he loves her the only thing he ever asked from her was "kya tum meri life ka hissa ban sakti ho?" and very gently she puuls him up from his knees as tho telling him that he neednt ever ASK for this.. coz that is gonna b ther unasked ... when she cudnt stip loving him even after he had a HUGE crush on sheena, how cud she leave him now, when he is finally hers? they both are an eternal part of each others' lives .. and they both KNOW it!

coming to marriage .. gunjan is absolutely naive ... and doesnt hav her own thoughts per say abt such things like love, marriage etc .. and this I say because , rem the first time nupur told gunjan tht she must b in love wit samrat? until then, gunjan was absolutely unaware that such a thing might even exist for her .. rem when she confssed her feelings for sam she goes "maine khud ke liye aise sapne kabhi nahin dekhe the .. lekin woh sapna haqeeqat bankar..mera best friend bankar jab mere saamne aaya .. to main bar khadi dekhti reh gayi" sam was the reason she started believing in love..until then that word had no meaning for her ... even when sam was told to go away fom morena .. she and sam had this unspoken agreement wit them, it was a testing time for their love even then .. but very maturely they worted it out, thinking that mayb that happ for the best .. and that they wud always love each other, no matter whatever happ in their life! that decision was not easy too..but hardly then had they started off their journey as lovers .. and hence they didnt kno how painful it might b staying apart! after goind thru so much as lovers .. and I m not jus talking abt emotional intimacy ..coz that they always had .. m talking abt physical intimacy too .. which is equally imp in every relationship .. they cannot jus stay away fpm each other now .. life absolutely feels empty, now that they hav discovered that they are truly soulmates! gunjan doesnt think/admire the concept of marriage .. more tha that, she feels that marriage is the only way for them to stay together now .. because of the way she has seen nups suffer .... befiore this, she hasnt even thought of marriage so early .. coz jus being wit sam made her happy .. she is NOT marriage obssesed like nups is! and she definitely isnt eacy for marriage .. she jus wants to marry him to b sure that nothing can separate him .. coz she thinks that marriage is the ultimate thing to stay together..again so naive!

and sam here knows the other side of mariage too, having seen his parents' marriage .. hence he is obvi not even gonna think abt it..or doesnt believ in it .. that doesnt mean he is committment phobic AT ALL! heck, even when he wasnt WITH gunjan he was soo utterly loyal to her .. then after this toh, nothing .. no force is strong enuf to drive them apart! I m utterly sure of that ...

now coming to the song .. ah, I hav SO loved it! its one of my fav songs ... and I always wanted to make a gunjan POV mix on tht .. because the lyrics are soo apt for her when sam-sheena are together n stuf ... but now wont hav the heart to make it ..

anyways, the starting line goes -

kaise bataye kyun tujhko chaahe .. yaara bata na paaye

and its soo true for them both .. u cannot jus tel WHY u love a person .. u jus love him .. and thats that! there's no reason and if u do find reasons, then that means .. u cannot love that person truly .. when u dont find any reasons, its only then when u love that person selflessly for who he/she truly is .. and SaJan totally define this line!

baatein dilon ki..dekho jo baaki .. aankhen tujhe samjhaye ..

@ bold : THAT is jus soo true! there is nothing..abslutely nothing in their hearts that the other person doesnt kno..and yet, watever is l;eft anyways is communicated via their eyes...EVERYTIME

nigaahon mein dekho meri..jo hain bas gaya woh hain milta tumse hubahu .. jaane teri aankhen thi ya baatein thi wajah..hue tum jo dil ki aarzoo..

echoing everyting I said abt the first line...u jus dont find a reson for loving someone selflessly..coz u jus kno that u do!

how, as for gunjan getting attached to the concept of marriage .. again is soo gunjan-ish thing to do .. when she first realised he loves smarat at that time she was jus happy wit the fact tht she found love in her life .. and never ever dreamt of being WITH him .. coz for her, jus the fact that being in love wit her best froend el.ated her ... but then she found out/ discovered the pain of not beign wit him .. thats when she atrted craving FOR him .. being together wit him .. when she realised she cannot, she tried moving on .. when she thought he had turned her down .. she went on in her life .. and when he came back to morena FOR her at that time she didnt even kno they wud b together .. again, when he told her he loves her .. she was jus happy wit the fact that he loves her .. and that they are together .. its only NOW that she has seen what might happ to their love if they dont get married that she is thinking abt marriage .. I really dont think its the idea of 'marriage' that appeals to her as such .. more than that, the idea of 'being wit sam forever' drives her crazy abt marriage .. and being a girl somewhere, now after all this evironamtn around her like her rightly says .. some thoughts do take birth in her mind .. and over the time I m sure they arr gonna grow .. jus like her feelings for sam did, when she first fell in love wit him ...




phew! feels gr8 to get that ALLL out .. 🤣


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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: mads

okies..so having watched this scene like 5 times in a row, I m back after being coherent .. 😆😆<br><br>starting wit sam's most amazing dialogue of the yr ... nothing can replace this dialogue for me - jab bhi hum is chaand ko ek saath dekhenge, woh humesha ek dusre se humare dil ki baat pahuncha dega ..😍 😍😍<br><br>and for once, of ALL the cliched 'chand' dialogues I hav ever heard of in my life .. only SaJan can make me believ that such silmy dialogues can actually seem soo real and innocent .. coz of their pure and innocent love! <br><br>this one soo absolutely and completely SUMS up their love for each other..they dont need to stay together for them to kno that thy love each other .. they dont need to TELL each other how much they love each other ... they jus kno in their hearts, minds thoughts what the other person is feeling abt them at tht very moment ... their wavelengths are at such a superb level that they jus FEEL what the other person is feeling at tht moment ... and for this, I disagree wit many here hwne they say that sam doesnt understand gunjan's POV..indeed, he does .. truly and completely .. but he diagrees wit it.. <br><br>he understands it, but diagrees wit it .. she understand him, but diagrees wit it too .. thats what yest's scene was ALL abt .. and thats the most amazing thing abt them .. more than their love, they hav this HUGE amount of respect for each other ... due to which they can disagree soo many no of times, yet that doesnt spoil their equation at all .. because they kno that the other person may b right too!<br><br>and u can actually SEE this when sam says "shaadi bhi koi saath rehne ki guarantee ke saath nahin aati.." and the way he looks at her almost apologetically as tho saying 'I really really understand what u mean..but I gotta disagree wit u on this, I m soo sorry .. I really dont think that marriage is the solution for us staying together' .. he is the kinda person, who is an eternal optimist by nature .. which sometimes, is a good thing ... look at the way he consolde gunjan when she had her insecurities abt their relationship is the frst plc coz they are two different persons altogether .. and the way he said, they cannot b two different individuals, coz if they wer then they wudnt b together at tht moment in tht plc..the fact tht they are TOGETHER means that they wer meant to b..always!<br><br>gunjan is always the more mature and the realistic one ... "kyun ki hum alag ho sakte hain samrat.." some may call this pessimism .. I wud call it being realistic and aware of ur surroundings .. she knows bui's nature .. she knows abt her dislike for samrat .. she still wasnt wrong when she was insecure abt them being together because they are totally different individuals.. she always always thinks abt the future ... and thats what she does, knowing that this may pos problems in the future .. coz she is very wise! and neither is she wrong now .,.when she is telling him that they might b separated too! heck, when she sees wit her own eyes what her di is going thru ... she knows that sooner or later its her turn to get married ... and ofcourse even in her wildest dreams she cannot think of marrying anybody else but sam!<br><br>and thats where their thoughts clash - gunjan is the more reaistic one whereas sam is the eternal optimist .. and he wud do anything to remain that way, since forever .. mayb this was his way of getting over his painful childhood .. mayb after going thru so much at a young age he had decided to himself that he wud NEVER let anything go wrong in his life NOW .. he wud strive thru everything he can to make everything right for him always .. and thats why he is always so hyper when he is abt to lose gunjan from his life..coz when she is not around, nothing is right for him! as for gunjan, she has always been grounded ever since childhood and sees the world for what it is .. she, being the shy and under confident person cud never MAKE things right for her .. but then, she always accepted them as they wer without questioning their existence and moved on in her life .. becoming strong in the process!<br><br>now for the commitment issues ... neither of them ever hav it! when sam frst told her that he loves her the only thing he ever asked from her was "kya tum meri life ka hissa ban sakti ho?" and very gently she puuls him up from his knees as tho telling him that he neednt ever ASK for this.. coz that is gonna b ther unasked ... when she cudnt stip loving him even after he had a HUGE crush on sheena, how cud she leave him now, when he is finally hers? they both are an eternal part of each others' lives .. and they both KNOW it!<br><br>coming to marriage .. gunjan is absolutely naive ... and doesnt hav her own thoughts per say abt such things like love, marriage etc .. and this I say because , rem the first time nupur told gunjan tht she must b in love wit samrat? until then, gunjan was absolutely unaware that such a thing might even exist for her .. rem when she confssed her feelings for sam she goes "maine khud ke liye aise sapne kabhi nahin dekhe the .. lekin woh sapna haqeeqat bankar..mera best friend bankar jab mere saamne aaya .. to main bar khadi dekhti reh gayi" sam was the reason she started believing in love..until then that word had no meaning for her ... even when sam was told to go away fom morena .. she and sam had this unspoken agreement wit them, it was a testing time for their love even then .. but very maturely they worted it out, thinking that mayb that happ for the best .. and that they wud always love each other, no matter whatever happ in their life! that decision was not easy too..but hardly then had they started off their journey as lovers .. and hence they didnt kno how painful it might b staying apart! after goind thru so much as lovers .. and I m not jus talking abt emotional intimacy ..coz that they always had .. m talking abt physical intimacy too .. which is equally imp in every relationship .. they cannot jus stay away fpm each other now .. life absolutely feels empty, now that they hav discovered that they are truly soulmates! gunjan doesnt think/admire the concept of marriage .. more tha that, she feels that marriage is the only way for them to stay together now .. because of the way she has seen nups suffer .... befiore this, she hasnt even thought of marriage so early .. coz jus being wit sam made her happy .. she is NOT marriage obssesed like nups is! and she definitely isnt eacy for marriage .. she jus wants to marry him to b sure that nothing can separate him .. coz she thinks that marriage is the ultimate thing to stay together..again so naive!<br><br>and sam here knows the other side of mariage too, having seen his parents' marriage .. hence he is obvi not even gonna think abt it..or doesnt believ in it .. that doesnt mean he is committment phobic AT ALL! heck, even when he wasnt WITH gunjan he was soo utterly loyal to her .. then after this toh, nothing .. no force is strong enuf to drive them apart! I m utterly sure of that ...<br><br>now coming to the song .. ah, I hav SO loved it! its one of my fav songs ... and I always wanted to make a gunjan POV mix on tht .. because the lyrics are soo apt for her when sam-sheena are together n stuf ... but now wont hav the heart to make it .. <br><br>anyways, the starting line goes -<br><br>kaise bataye kyun tujhko chaahe .. yaara bata na paaye<br><br>and its soo true for them both .. u cannot jus tel WHY u love a person .. u jus love him .. and thats that! there's no reason and if u do find reasons, then that means .. u cannot love that person truly .. when u dont find any reasons, its only then when u love that person selflessly for who he/she truly is .. and SaJan totally define this line!<br><br>baatein dilon ki..dekho jo baaki .. aankhen tujhe samjhaye ..<br><br>@ bold : THAT is jus soo true! there is nothing..abslutely nothing in their hearts that the other person doesnt kno..and yet, watever is l;eft anyways is communicated via their eyes...EVERYTIME<br><br>nigaahon mein dekho meri..jo hain bas gaya woh hain milta tumse hubahu .. jaane teri aankhen thi ya baatein thi wajah..hue tum jo dil ki aarzoo..<br><br>echoing everyting I said abt the first line...u jus dont find a reson for loving someone selflessly..coz u jus kno that u do!<br><br>how, as for gunjan getting attached to the concept of marriage .. again is soo gunjan-ish thing to do .. when she first realised he loves smarat at that time she was jus happy wit the fact tht she found love in her life .. and never ever dreamt of being WITH him .. coz for her, jus the fact that being in love wit her best froend el.ated her ... but then she found out/ discovered the pain of not beign wit him .. thats when she atrted craving FOR him .. being together wit him .. when she realised she cannot, she tried moving on .. when she thought he had turned her down .. she went on in her life .. and when he came back to morena FOR her at that time she didnt even kno they wud b together .. again, when he told her he loves her .. she was jus happy wit the fact that he loves her .. and that they are together .. its only NOW that she has seen what might happ to their love if they dont get married that she is thinking abt marriage .. I really dont think its the idea of 'marriage' that appeals to her as such .. more than that, the idea of 'being wit sam forever' drives her crazy abt marriage .. and being a girl somewhere, now after all this evironamtn around her like her rightly says .. some thoughts do take birth in her mind .. and over the time I m sure they arr gonna grow .. jus like her feelings for sam did, when she first fell in love wit him ...<br><br><br><br><br>phew! feels gr8 to get that ALLL out .. 🤣<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>

wowwwwwwwwww dear wonderful reply yar i am totally agree with your each and every word and ya smriti dear i also agree with you 😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
🤣okie maddy m gona use ur trick log out and then read your post...🤣🤣...and yeah already blindlyliked it coz i know eveyrhting abt it wld be something i wld just wana say ditto ditto dittooooooooo....so yeah widout even reading it i can say wid full confidence i agree to every word u wrote mado...while browsing felll upon some words like respect and all which is SO SO TRUEEEEEE..more than love repect is what needed oif u cant respect me d person i m my vlues my dreams u bloody dont deserve to love me...and damm chor kahin this has bene my all time fvt song too even like it more than tera hone laga hoon and me too badly craving for a yuvi pov mix on it..chal kuch toh diff hai..🤣

loveeeeeeeeeee u
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Posted: 15 years ago
Naveen, mads .... FINALLY you guys are back!!!!!! 😆 😆 😆 loved both your posts 😃
Will add my two penny's worth tomorrow ... 😉 after watching the scene again!

Btw, mads ... loved your analysis on the song ... that was the thing that struck me about the song - although it was a song on 'judaai', it was very well choreographed - the parts on Sajan were just ideal for them!!! 😳 😍 And I have to say ... on the rest too - for once even AS were watchable!
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: mads

okies..so having watched this scene like 5 times in a row, I m back after being coherent .. 😆😆

starting wit sam's most amazing dialogue of the yr ... nothing can replace this dialogue for me - jab bhi hum is chaand ko ek saath dekhenge, woh humesha ek dusre se humare dil ki baat pahuncha dega .. 😍 😍😍

and for once, of ALL the cliched 'chand' dialogues I hav ever heard of in my life .. only SaJan can make me believ that such silmy dialogues can actually seem soo real and innocent .. coz of their pure and innocent love!

this one soo absolutely and completely SUMS up their love for each other..they dont need to stay together for them to kno that thy love each other .. they dont need to TELL each other how much they love each other ... they jus kno in their hearts, minds thoughts what the other person is feeling abt them at tht very moment ... their wavelengths are at such a superb level that they jus FEEL what the other person is feeling at tht moment ... and for this, I disagree wit many here hwne they say that sam doesnt understand gunjan's POV..indeed, he does .. truly and completely .. but he diagrees wit it..

he understands it, but diagrees wit it .. she understand him, but diagrees wit it too .. thats what yest's scene was ALL abt .. and thats the most amazing thing abt them .. more than their love, they hav this HUGE amount of respect for each other ... due to which they can disagree soo many no of times, yet that doesnt spoil their equation at all .. because they kno that the other person may b right too!

and u can actually SEE this when sam says "shaadi bhi koi saath rehne ki guarantee ke saath nahin aati.." and the way he looks at her almost apologetically as tho saying 'I really really understand what u mean..but I gotta disagree wit u on this, I m soo sorry .. I really dont think that marriage is the solution for us staying together' .. he is the kinda person, who is an eternal optimist by nature .. which sometimes, is a good thing ... look at the way he consolde gunjan when she had her insecurities abt their relationship is the frst plc coz they are two different persons altogether .. and the way he said, they cannot b two different individuals, coz if they wer then they wudnt b together at tht moment in tht plc..the fact tht they are TOGETHER means that they wer meant to b..always!

gunjan is always the more mature and the realistic one ... "kyun ki hum alag ho sakte hain samrat.." some may call this pessimism .. I wud call it being realistic and aware of ur surroundings .. she knows bui's nature .. she knows abt her dislike for samrat .. she still wasnt wrong when she was insecure abt them being together because they are totally different individuals.. she always always thinks abt the future ... and thats what she does, knowing that this may pos problems in the future .. coz she is very wise! and neither is she wrong now .,.when she is telling him that they might b separated too! heck, when she sees wit her own eyes what her di is going thru ... she knows that sooner or later its her turn to get married ... and ofcourse even in her wildest dreams she cannot think of marrying anybody else but sam!

and thats where their thoughts clash - gunjan is the more reaistic one whereas sam is the eternal optimist .. and he wud do anything to remain that way, since forever .. mayb this was his way of getting over his painful childhood .. mayb after going thru so much at a young age he had decided to himself that he wud NEVER let anything go wrong in his life NOW .. he wud strive thru everything he can to make everything right for him always .. and thats why he is always so hyper when he is abt to lose gunjan from his life..coz when she is not around, nothing is right for him! as for gunjan, she has always been grounded ever since childhood and sees the world for what it is .. she, being the shy and under confident person cud never MAKE things right for her .. but then, she always accepted them as they wer without questioning their existence and moved on in her life .. becoming strong in the process!

now for the commitment issues ... neither of them ever hav it! when sam frst told her that he loves her the only thing he ever asked from her was "kya tum meri life ka hissa ban sakti ho?" and very gently she puuls him up from his knees as tho telling him that he neednt ever ASK for this.. coz that is gonna b ther unasked ... when she cudnt stip loving him even after he had a HUGE crush on sheena, how cud she leave him now, when he is finally hers? they both are an eternal part of each others' lives .. and they both KNOW it!

coming to marriage .. gunjan is absolutely naive ... and doesnt hav her own thoughts per say abt such things like love, marriage etc .. and this I say because , rem the first time nupur told gunjan tht she must b in love wit samrat? until then, gunjan was absolutely unaware that such a thing might even exist for her .. rem when she confssed her feelings for sam she goes "maine khud ke liye aise sapne kabhi nahin dekhe the .. lekin woh sapna haqeeqat bankar..mera best friend bankar jab mere saamne aaya .. to main bar khadi dekhti reh gayi" sam was the reason she started believing in love..until then that word had no meaning for her ... even when sam was told to go away fom morena .. she and sam had this unspoken agreement wit them, it was a testing time for their love even then .. but very maturely they worted it out, thinking that mayb that happ for the best .. and that they wud always love each other, no matter whatever happ in their life! that decision was not easy too..but hardly then had they started off their journey as lovers .. and hence they didnt kno how painful it might b staying apart! after goind thru so much as lovers .. and I m not jus talking abt emotional intimacy ..coz that they always had .. m talking abt physical intimacy too .. which is equally imp in every relationship .. they cannot jus stay away fpm each other now .. life absolutely feels empty, now that they hav discovered that they are truly soulmates! gunjan doesnt think/admire the concept of marriage .. more tha that, she feels that marriage is the only way for them to stay together now .. because of the way she has seen nups suffer .... befiore this, she hasnt even thought of marriage so early .. coz jus being wit sam made her happy .. she is NOT marriage obssesed like nups is! and she definitely isnt eacy for marriage .. she jus wants to marry him to b sure that nothing can separate him .. coz she thinks that marriage is the ultimate thing to stay together..again so naive!

and sam here knows the other side of mariage too, having seen his parents' marriage .. hence he is obvi not even gonna think abt it..or doesnt believ in it .. that doesnt mean he is committment phobic AT ALL! heck, even when he wasnt WITH gunjan he was soo utterly loyal to her .. then after this toh, nothing .. no force is strong enuf to drive them apart! I m utterly sure of that ...

now coming to the song .. ah, I hav SO loved it! its one of my fav songs ... and I always wanted to make a gunjan POV mix on tht .. because the lyrics are soo apt for her when sam-sheena are together n stuf ... but now wont hav the heart to make it ..

anyways, the starting line goes -

kaise bataye kyun tujhko chaahe .. yaara bata na paaye

and its soo true for them both .. u cannot jus tel WHY u love a person .. u jus love him .. and thats that! there's no reason and if u do find reasons, then that means .. u cannot love that person truly .. when u dont find any reasons, its only then when u love that person selflessly for who he/she truly is .. and SaJan totally define this line!

baatein dilon ki..dekho jo baaki .. aankhen tujhe samjhaye ..

@ bold : THAT is jus soo true! there is nothing..abslutely nothing in their hearts that the other person doesnt kno..and yet, watever is l;eft anyways is communicated via their eyes...EVERYTIME

nigaahon mein dekho meri..jo hain bas gaya woh hain milta tumse hubahu .. jaane teri aankhen thi ya baatein thi wajah..hue tum jo dil ki aarzoo..

echoing everyting I said abt the first line...u jus dont find a reson for loving someone selflessly..coz u jus kno that u do!

how, as for gunjan getting attached to the concept of marriage .. again is soo gunjan-ish thing to do .. when she first realised he loves smarat at that time she was jus happy wit the fact tht she found love in her life .. and never ever dreamt of being WITH him .. coz for her, jus the fact that being in love wit her best froend el.ated her ... but then she found out/ discovered the pain of not beign wit him .. thats when she atrted craving FOR him .. being together wit him .. when she realised she cannot, she tried moving on .. when she thought he had turned her down .. she went on in her life .. and when he came back to morena FOR her at that time she didnt even kno they wud b together .. again, when he told her he loves her .. she was jus happy wit the fact that he loves her .. and that they are together .. its only NOW that she has seen what might happ to their love if they dont get married that she is thinking abt marriage .. I really dont think its the idea of 'marriage' that appeals to her as such .. more than that, the idea of 'being wit sam forever' drives her crazy abt marriage .. and being a girl somewhere, now after all this evironamtn around her like her rightly says .. some thoughts do take birth in her mind .. and over the time I m sure they arr gonna grow .. jus like her feelings for sam did, when she first fell in love wit him ...




phew! feels gr8 to get that ALLL out .. 🤣


WOW!!...well said!!👏👏👏
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awesome topic. very well written👏
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Originally posted by: mads

okies..so having watched this scene like 5 times in a row, I m back after being coherent .. 😆😆<br><br>starting wit sam's most amazing dialogue of the yr ... nothing can replace this dialogue for me - jab bhi hum is chaand ko ek saath dekhenge, woh humesha ek dusre se humare dil ki baat pahuncha dega ..😍 😍😍<br><br>and for once, of ALL the cliched 'chand' dialogues I hav ever heard of in my life .. only SaJan can make me believ that such silmy dialogues can actually seem soo real and innocent .. coz of their pure and innocent love! <br><br>this one soo absolutely and completely SUMS up their love for each other..they dont need to stay together for them to kno that thy love each other .. they dont need to TELL each other how much they love each other ... they jus kno in their hearts, minds thoughts what the other person is feeling abt them at tht very moment ... their wavelengths are at such a superb level that they jus FEEL what the other person is feeling at tht moment ... and for this, I disagree wit many here hwne they say that sam doesnt understand gunjan's POV..indeed, he does .. truly and completely .. but he diagrees wit it.. <br><br>he understands it, but diagrees wit it .. she understand him, but diagrees wit it too .. thats what yest's scene was ALL abt .. and thats the most amazing thing abt them .. more than their love, they hav this HUGE amount of respect for each other ... due to which they can disagree soo many no of times, yet that doesnt spoil their equation at all .. because they kno that the other person may b right too!<br><br>and u can actually SEE this when sam says "shaadi bhi koi saath rehne ki guarantee ke saath nahin aati.." and the way he looks at her almost apologetically as tho saying 'I really really understand what u mean..but I gotta disagree wit u on this, I m soo sorry .. I really dont think that marriage is the solution for us staying together' .. he is the kinda person, who is an eternal optimist by nature .. which sometimes, is a good thing ... look at the way he consolde gunjan when she had her insecurities abt their relationship is the frst plc coz they are two different persons altogether .. and the way he said, they cannot b two different individuals, coz if they wer then they wudnt b together at tht moment in tht plc..the fact tht they are TOGETHER means that they wer meant to b..always!<br><br>gunjan is always the more mature and the realistic one ... "kyun ki hum alag ho sakte hain samrat.." some may call this pessimism .. I wud call it being realistic and aware of ur surroundings .. she knows bui's nature .. she knows abt her dislike for samrat .. she still wasnt wrong when she was insecure abt them being together because they are totally different individuals.. she always always thinks abt the future ... and thats what she does, knowing that this may pos problems in the future .. coz she is very wise! and neither is she wrong now .,.when she is telling him that they might b separated too! heck, when she sees wit her own eyes what her di is going thru ... she knows that sooner or later its her turn to get married ... and ofcourse even in her wildest dreams she cannot think of marrying anybody else but sam!<br><br>and thats where their thoughts clash - gunjan is the more reaistic one whereas sam is the eternal optimist .. and he wud do anything to remain that way, since forever .. mayb this was his way of getting over his painful childhood .. mayb after going thru so much at a young age he had decided to himself that he wud NEVER let anything go wrong in his life NOW .. he wud strive thru everything he can to make everything right for him always .. and thats why he is always so hyper when he is abt to lose gunjan from his life..coz when she is not around, nothing is right for him! as for gunjan, she has always been grounded ever since childhood and sees the world for what it is .. she, being the shy and under confident person cud never MAKE things right for her .. but then, she always accepted them as they wer without questioning their existence and moved on in her life .. becoming strong in the process!<br><br>now for the commitment issues ... neither of them ever hav it! when sam frst told her that he loves her the only thing he ever asked from her was "kya tum meri life ka hissa ban sakti ho?" and very gently she puuls him up from his knees as tho telling him that he neednt ever ASK for this.. coz that is gonna b ther unasked ... when she cudnt stip loving him even after he had a HUGE crush on sheena, how cud she leave him now, when he is finally hers? they both are an eternal part of each others' lives .. and they both KNOW it!<br><br>coming to marriage .. gunjan is absolutely naive ... and doesnt hav her own thoughts per say abt such things like love, marriage etc .. and this I say because , rem the first time nupur told gunjan tht she must b in love wit samrat? until then, gunjan was absolutely unaware that such a thing might even exist for her .. rem when she confssed her feelings for sam she goes "maine khud ke liye aise sapne kabhi nahin dekhe the .. lekin woh sapna haqeeqat bankar..mera best friend bankar jab mere saamne aaya .. to main bar khadi dekhti reh gayi" sam was the reason she started believing in love..until then that word had no meaning for her ... even when sam was told to go away fom morena .. she and sam had this unspoken agreement wit them, it was a testing time for their love even then .. but very maturely they worted it out, thinking that mayb that happ for the best .. and that they wud always love each other, no matter whatever happ in their life! that decision was not easy too..but hardly then had they started off their journey as lovers .. and hence they didnt kno how painful it might b staying apart! after goind thru so much as lovers .. and I m not jus talking abt emotional intimacy ..coz that they always had .. m talking abt physical intimacy too .. which is equally imp in every relationship .. they cannot jus stay away fpm each other now .. life absolutely feels empty, now that they hav discovered that they are truly soulmates! gunjan doesnt think/admire the concept of marriage .. more tha that, she feels that marriage is the only way for them to stay together now .. because of the way she has seen nups suffer .... befiore this, she hasnt even thought of marriage so early .. coz jus being wit sam made her happy .. she is NOT marriage obssesed like nups is! and she definitely isnt eacy for marriage .. she jus wants to marry him to b sure that nothing can separate him .. coz she thinks that marriage is the ultimate thing to stay together..again so naive!<br><br>and sam here knows the other side of mariage too, having seen his parents' marriage .. hence he is obvi not even gonna think abt it..or doesnt believ in it .. that doesnt mean he is committment phobic AT ALL! heck, even when he wasnt WITH gunjan he was soo utterly loyal to her .. then after this toh, nothing .. no force is strong enuf to drive them apart! I m utterly sure of that ...<br><br>now coming to the song .. ah, I hav SO loved it! its one of my fav songs ... and I always wanted to make a gunjan POV mix on tht .. because the lyrics are soo apt for her when sam-sheena are together n stuf ... but now wont hav the heart to make it .. <br><br>anyways, the starting line goes -<br><br>kaise bataye kyun tujhko chaahe .. yaara bata na paaye<br><br>and its soo true for them both .. u cannot jus tel WHY u love a person .. u jus love him .. and thats that! there's no reason and if u do find reasons, then that means .. u cannot love that person truly .. when u dont find any reasons, its only then when u love that person selflessly for who he/she truly is .. and SaJan totally define this line!<br><br>baatein dilon ki..dekho jo baaki .. aankhen tujhe samjhaye ..<br><br>@ bold : THAT is jus soo true! there is nothing..abslutely nothing in their hearts that the other person doesnt kno..and yet, watever is l;eft anyways is communicated via their eyes...EVERYTIME<br><br>nigaahon mein dekho meri..jo hain bas gaya woh hain milta tumse hubahu .. jaane teri aankhen thi ya baatein thi wajah..hue tum jo dil ki aarzoo..<br><br>echoing everyting I said abt the first line...u jus dont find a reson for loving someone selflessly..coz u jus kno that u do!<br><br>how, as for gunjan getting attached to the concept of marriage .. again is soo gunjan-ish thing to do .. when she first realised he loves smarat at that time she was jus happy wit the fact tht she found love in her life .. and never ever dreamt of being WITH him .. coz for her, jus the fact that being in love wit her best froend el.ated her ... but then she found out/ discovered the pain of not beign wit him .. thats when she atrted craving FOR him .. being together wit him .. when she realised she cannot, she tried moving on .. when she thought he had turned her down .. she went on in her life .. and when he came back to morena FOR her at that time she didnt even kno they wud b together .. again, when he told her he loves her .. she was jus happy wit the fact that he loves her .. and that they are together .. its only NOW that she has seen what might happ to their love if they dont get married that she is thinking abt marriage .. I really dont think its the idea of 'marriage' that appeals to her as such .. more than that, the idea of 'being wit sam forever' drives her crazy abt marriage .. and being a girl somewhere, now after all this evironamtn around her like her rightly says .. some thoughts do take birth in her mind .. and over the time I m sure they arr gonna grow .. jus like her feelings for sam did, when she first fell in love wit him ...<br><br><br><br><br>phew! feels gr8 to get that ALLL out .. 🤣<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>




Bravo !!! Brilliant !! Absolutely perfect post !! I thnk this is one of your bestest post ever mads !! I coudnt have explained this scene better ! I tried but honestly with all the work, the crazy hours in the conference, the editing of scenes and uploading them has scattered my brains totally !!! lolzzzz !!

But I totally agree with u !! Sam did understand her POV, but i just felt that he assured her too quickly, as if he doesnt want to think about the fact that they can be seperated, but I could br wrong becaue i'll be honest i have seen the secen and the song only once, and whatever free time i got after that, i had spend it editing, converting and uploaidng the scene !!! lolz !!!

Let me watch the scene again and i'll get back to you on this !!! 😳
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Originally posted by: mads

... and for this, I disagree wit many here hwne they say that sam doesnt understand gunjan's POV..indeed, he does .. truly and completely .. but he diagrees wit it..

he understands it, but diagrees wit it .. she understand him, but diagrees wit it too .. thats what yest's scene was ALL abt .. and thats the most amazing thing abt them .. more than their love, they hav this HUGE amount of respect for each other ... due to which they can disagree soo many no of times, yet that doesnt spoil their equation at all .. because they kno that the other person may b right too!

nd thats where their thoughts clash - gunjan is the more reaistic one whereas sam is the eternal optimist .. and he wud do anything to remain that way, since forever .. mayb this was his way of getting over his painful childhood .. mayb after going thru so much at a young age he had decided to himself that he wud NEVER let anything go wrong in his life NOW .. he wud strive thru everything he can to make everything right for him always .. and thats why he is always so hyper when he is abt to lose gunjan from his life..coz when she is not around, nothing is right for him! as for gunjan, she has always been grounded ever since childhood and sees the world for what it is .. she, being the shy and under confident person cud never MAKE things right for her .. but then, she always accepted them as they wer without questioning their existence and moved on in her life .. becoming strong in the process!

that decision was not easy too..but hardly then had they started off their journey as lovers .. and hence they didnt kno how painful it might b staying apart! after goind thru so much as lovers .. and I m not jus talking abt emotional intimacy ..coz that they always had .. m talking abt physical intimacy too .. which is equally imp in every relationship .. they cannot jus stay away fpm each other now .. life absolutely feels empty, now that they hav discovered that they are truly soulmates! gunjan doesnt think/admire the concept of marriage .. more tha that, she feels that marriage is the only way for them to stay together now .. because of the way she has seen nups suffer .... befiore this, she hasnt even thought of marriage so early .. coz jus being wit sam made her happy .. she is NOT marriage obssesed like nups is! and she definitely isnt eacy for marriage .. she jus wants to marry him to b sure that nothing can separate him .. coz she thinks that marriage is the ultimate thing to stay together..again so naive!

and sam here knows the other side of mariage too, having seen his parents' marriage .. hence he is obvi not even gonna think abt it..or doesnt believ in it .. that doesnt mean he is committment phobic AT ALL! heck, even when he wasnt WITH gunjan he was soo utterly loyal to her .. then after this toh, nothing .. no force is strong enuf to drive them apart! I m utterly sure of that ...



Am replying to this in bits ... because I'm snowed under with work 😭 !!!!

Agree completely to all the parts above!!! Just want to add ...

The whole shaadi thing ... why has it come up in Gunjan's mind at all ... obviously only because of Nupur's problems and the shaadi atmosphere in the house ... completely natural for any girl who's in love to start thinking about her own wedding in such an atmosphere, even one who's not prone to dreaming or thinking about such things at all. On top of which, Bui's repeated comments that she will now get the other two girls married off also ... and I'm not surprised that Gunjan is worried sick!!!!

Her thoughts aren't about marriage ... they're about being separated from Samrat and that's what's frightening her to death ...the only thing on her mind is - we're not married, the same thing can happen to us. Shows her naivety to some extent, shows the kind of upbringing and family that she comes from - that for her, being married is the ultimate solution to this threat that is suddenly hanging over her head.

samrat is coming from a completely different place ... probably because of his parents' divorce, he hasn't thought of marriage as a solution, all he knows is that he will not be separated from Gunjan, heck, he doesn't even want to talk about the possibility of that happening ....

BUT ... and this is where this couple's understanding of each other comes in so beautifully ...

Samrat says - that's the second time in one day you've mentioned marriage, Gunjan now all worried and conscious as to what she's saying - till now it was all about separating from Samrat, but Samrat's question makes her a little conscious, she tries to explain that it's because of the shaadi ka mahaul and all that's going on that she's getting these thoughts.
And Samrat understands immediately .... oh yes he does, but he has far less faith in marriage being the ultimate solution than she does and he says so.

And then HER understanding instantly ... even in the middle of her fears and worries, she knows where he's coming from - because really - is there anything this couple doesn't know about each other? - and replies to his unspoken statement, by saying - all marriages don't break up.

And this for me was the BEST part of the scene - he realises that at the moment, she's scared, she's looking for reassurance, not a debate on marriage, so he just gives her the reassurance she needs so desperately, by saying no, all marriages are not like that, because everyone doesn't have my chashmish. And she needs that closeness, that reassurance desperately - so he's succeeded, because she stops thinking about separation and suddenly she's just a young girl with dreams in her eyes about the boy she loves and being with him forever.

Again, this is why I loved the song on Sajan ... the build up was beautiful and totally apt 😍

Kaise batayen, kyun tujhko chahein, yaara bata na payen
How do I tell you why I love you, my love, I can't say it,
baatein dilon ki dekho jo baaki, aankhen tujhe samjhayen
what I can't say, what's in my heart, let my eyes tell you
tu jaane na, tu jaane na

Nigahon mein meri dekho jo hai bas gaya, voh hai milta tumse hubahu
See the one who's taken up residence in my eyes and my heart, see how much she resembles you
Jaane teri aankhen thi ya baatein thi vajah, huey jo tum dil ki aarzoo
Was it your eyes or your words, that you became the one desire of my heart

Yes, he's succeeded, she's forgotten her fears for the moment in her dreams - Gunjan has never been the kind to dream about marriage, that has never been her goal, but the problems with her sister have forced these thoughts into her head, and with Samrat's love and reassurance, those fears are replaced for the moment by dreams. The fears will come back tomorrow, but for today she's content to dream about her love like any young girl and dream about her own happy ending, especially when the guy she loves is only too happy and willing to share her dreams with her.

And his fears and insecurities about the institution of marriage will come back later too, but tonight the most important thing was to reassure his love, because for once, she's not the more mature one of the two, she's the one needing his maturity, his strength and his unconditional love. And he's right there to give that to her. They are like two pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, when she needs his strength, he's strong for her, and when he needs hers, she becomes strong for him.

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Originally posted by: DiyaS



Am replying to this in bits ... because I'm snowed under with work 😭 !!!!

Agree completely to all the parts above!!! Just want to add ...

The whole shaadi thing ... why has it come up in Gunjan's mind at all ... obviously only because of Nupur's problems and the shaadi atmosphere in the house ... completely natural for any girl who's in love to start thinking about her own wedding in such an atmosphere, even one who's not prone to dreaming or thinking about such things at all. On top of which, Bui's repeated comments that she will now get the other two girls married off also ... and I'm not surprised that Gunjan is worried sick!!!!

Her thoughts aren't about marriage ... they're about being separated from Samrat and that's what's frightening her to death ...the only thing on her mind is - we're not married, the same thing can happen to us. Shows her naivety to some extent, shows the kind of upbringing and family that she comes from - that for her, being married is the ultimate solution to this threat that is suddenly hanging over her head.

samrat is coming from a completely different place ... probably because of his parents' divorce, he hasn't thought of marriage as a solution, all he knows is that he will not be separated from Gunjan, heck, he doesn't even want to talk about the possibility of that happening ....

BUT ... and this is where this couple's understanding of each other comes in so beautifully ...

Samrat says - that's the second time in one day you've mentioned marriage, Gunjan now all worried and conscious as to what she's saying - till now it was all about separating from Samrat, but Samrat's question makes her a little conscious, she tries to explain that it's because of the shaadi ka mahaul and all that's going on that she's getting these thoughts.
And Samrat understands immediately .... oh yes he does, but he has far less faith in marriage being the ultimate solution than she does and he says so.

And then HER understanding instantly ... even in the middle of her fears and worries, she knows where he's coming from - because really - is there anything this couple doesn't know about each other? - and replies to his unspoken statement, by saying - all marriages don't break up.

And this for me was the BEST part of the scene - he realises that at the moment, she's scared, she's looking for reassurance, not a debate on marriage, so he just gives her the reassurance she needs so desperately, by saying no, all marriages are not like that, because everyone doesn't have my chashmish. And she needs that closeness, that reassurance desperately - so he's succeeded, because she stops thinking about separation and suddenly she's just a young girl with dreams in her eyes about the boy she loves and being with him forever.

Again, this is why I loved the song on Sajan ... the build up was beautiful and totally apt 😍

Kaise batayen, kyun tujhko chahein, yaara bata na payen
How do I tell you why I love you, my love, I can't say it,
baatein dilon ki dekho jo baaki, aankhen tujhe samjhayen
what I can't say, what's in my heart, let my eyes tell you
tu jaane na, tu jaane na

Nigahon mein meri dekho jo hai bas gaya, voh hai milta tumse hubahu
See the one who's taken up residence in my eyes and my heart, see how much she resembles you
Jaane teri aankhen thi ya baatein thi vajah, huey jo tum dil ki aarzoo
Was it your eyes or your words, that you became the one desire of my heart

Yes, he's succeeded, she's forgotten her fears for the moment in her dreams - Gunjan has never been the kind to dream about marriage, that has never been her goal, but the problems with her sister have forced these thoughts into her head, and with Samrat's love and reassurance, those fears are replaced for the moment by dreams. The fears will come back tomorrow, but for today she's content to dream about her love like any young girl and dream about her own happy ending, especially when the guy she loves is only too happy and willing to share her dreams with her.

And his fears and insecurities about the institution of marriage will come back later too, but tonight the most important thing was to reassure his love, because for once, she's not the more mature one of the two, she's the one needing his maturity, his strength and his unconditional love. And he's right there to give that to her. They are like two pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, when she needs his strength, he's strong for her, and when he needs hers, she becomes strong for him.



SHIT diya ... this was SOOO amazing !!! 👏

u make me fall in love wit them AGAIN n AGAIN .. ☺️☺️

@ bold : and this is true right from the beginning isnt it ?? when she was low in confidence wit her singing, it was samrat that stood by her .. and when he was upset and confused as to what kind of a person he is ..and what he is showing to the world ... she stood by him throughout ...

and now, when they hav begun their journey as lovers ... almost every scene potrays it .. I mean, the way she consoled him abt his mother ... the way she goes "tumhe darne ko koi jaroorat nahin hain..main hoon na tumhare saath??" ( awww I jus LOVE .. LOVE .. LOVE sanaya's voice modulation at this part .. its chooo cute..choo innocent and choo adorable 😳😳😳 ) and now, when she needs his reassurance, he is ther telling her that not all marriages break..because not everyone has a chashmish like him .. 😳😳😳 and thats why I am positive that this track wont b abt their separation as such..more of their clashing views .. and how do they compromise on it ... because they both understand and kno each other thru and thru .. 😳😳😳

oh..and the jigsaw puzzle bit ... they TOTALYY and ABSOLUTELYY complete each other ☺️☺️☺️

and something tht I hadnt clicked upon when I saw the scene..u explained it diya! 😳 the way she is all upset, but as soon as he mentions that marriage is not the solution to stay together .. then in a jiffy she knows wher he is coming fom ...awww, I jus LOVE and ADORE their understanding of each other .. 😍😍 despite being so upset herself, she knows his point in a moment ... they are amazing !!
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