mayank -nupur/ mjht

after reading so many analysis (in plural) of every episode/ dialogue/ characterisation and what nots in the forum about MN and mjht, i went back and saw all the episodes of mjht/ esp concentrating on MN and have come to the foll conclusions

1 MN r nice /great actually. ....if the creatives meant them to be a happy couple, they ve succeded. and no i didnt feel they were comic relief only

2 mayank s role hasnt changed for the worse but yes it has few added dimensions-its as if he was just a HERO type guy in the initial episodes but now hes more human- imperfect /silly but also more tolerant of all others who dont match upto his intellectual level. (dia-uday for eg) hes better coz his intellectual snobbery has come down and what ive seen people refer to as no self respect is actually no ego which shows heights of maturity (no i dont want him to wear the locket but then i want nup to take it back)

3 nupur has pretty much remained how she was except during the locket track, she needs to grow up which has started with the apologetic post locket hug..

4 MN relationship post confession- cmon guys look at the times we had-the whole confession itself/ last bits of play/ fanaa hug/ THE WALk / uday kabab mein haddi / terrace scene ilu ones / udays bday party scenes/ last weeks i dont need u to say ilu and then phone ilu scene etc.,

controversy has been about-- how and when did they fall in love? that was not sudden.. in fact it was the realisation and accceptance that was done quite well with the help of the play...though not all scenes were acceptable to all

2ndly, mayank turning raj pooohhhhh i dont know who raj is and never liked ddlj esp raj in that and i dont care to compare MAYANK with anyone else-yes he was silly about those mayapari / arranging for the date or the actual date itself but then my question is y shouldnt mayank be silly in love?
on one hand we r talking about no physical intimacy between those two coz of their age , on the other we expect mayank to remain buddha ish....doesnt g together.

then jumpng into pool for the locket....esp the constant comments on malkin blah balh...again sometimes we all no matter how mature tend to overact/ overreact to situations- nups has always felt lik sam that mayank is too good for her....so she tried to see how far he would go to please her and once she realised it, she felt guilty.


next storyline for mayur--no theres no story. its just the daily routine stuff ....and i lik them for that...i dont want an accident/ triangle or whatever


what couldve been better--editing editing editing esp mn scenes its so clear theyve changed tracks atleast 5 times from jungle scenes till now

equal screentime for all ...difficult i know but for that they need to ve an integrated storyline of MJHT including all theside roles............not mayur-sajan-rania -sheena tracks running parallelly to cater to fans of one jodi. they shudve made us all fans of mjht first before fans of one pair

college life has been sidelined totally.i know most of agree on this point and miss it equally.


all in all, though there have been disappointing episodes overall mjht has kept me happy. and mn have kept me glued to tv after 3 yrs of tv abstinence. and thats y i feel lik coming back to IF to share my love for the

Originally posted by: np18

after reading so many analysis (in plural) of every episode/ dialogue/ characterisation and what nots in the forum about MN and mjht, i went back and saw all the episodes of mjht/ esp concentrating on MN and have come to the foll conclusions

4 MN relationship post confession- cmon guys look at the times we had-the whole confession itself/ last bits of play/ fanaa hug/ THE WALk / uday kabab mein haddi / terrace scene ilu ones / udays bday party scenes/ last weeks i dont need u to say ilu and then phone ilu scene etc.,

I had never complained regarding their track...i love it as it is..............but they r given less screen space.........u have counted all the scenes from the last 4 monthz u know and i dont remember any other scene.............but when it comes 2 sajan u wont be able 2 count the scenes..................that is wat the difference is................

definitely cant count sajan scenes and dont want to either....who wants sheena with them. better have lesser scenes than with sheena in them.

but yes i get ur point of less screen time and agree with u

you knw idont get too many replies to my posts , i guess thats bcoz im not regular in the forum but somehow the thought that someone will read it is enough for me.

this is the only place to vent out my feelings without being thought crazy.

and yes, forgot to say the dialogues ve become predictable...wont use the term cheezy coz i dont know what it means. ....what we r upset about is that our special couple r turning commonplace.

Wow...i totally loved readin ur opinion on the MN story/ characters...i agree...i just want the creatives 2 show sum depth in their relationship...1ce tht is achieved..i'll b completely satisfied...otherwise toh ArTi have sizzling chemistry...thts MN's '+' point..

Yes i agree with u dear...the thing is that y v cant count sajan scenes bcoz sheena is included, yes v can count sajan track alone(sheena xcluded), but cant count samrat's scenes, since he's included with both the girls. 1 more thing i want 2 point out is that...v can always remember mayur scenes bcoz arjun and rati made it so beautiful. There are always memorable mayur scenes which v cannot 4get even after mjht gets over. Juz my view point. Sorry if i hurt any1's feeling.

Originally posted by np18

after reading so many analysis (in plural) of every episode/ dialogue/ characterisation and what nots in the forum about MN and mjht, i went back and saw all the episodes of mjht/ esp concentrating on MN and have come to the foll conclusions

1 MN r nice /great actually. ....if the creatives meant them to be a happy couple, they ve succeded. and no i didnt feel they were comic relief only I'm glad that you feel that way.......frankly, to me, this "happy couple" explanation for MN's track or lack thereof isn't understandable at all.......being the "happy couple" doesn't mean having no sensibility or sensitivity left. And to me, they aren't even "comic relief" anymore, but caricatures......what with the tawdry storyline, tacky dialogues, and the distortions in their characterizations. what do we actually expect when we say sensibility?

2 mayank s role hasnt changed for the worse but yes it has few added dimensions-its as if he was just a HERO type guy in the initial episodes but now hes more human- imperfect /silly but also more tolerant of all others who dont match upto his intellectual level. (dia-uday for eg) hes better coz his intellectual snobbery has come down and what ive seen people refer to as no self respect is actually no ego which shows heights of maturity (no i dont want him to wear the locket but then i want nup to take it back)
Mayank was real and believable earlier.......his determination, focus, intelligence and his subtlety were what set him apart.... yes thats what made him a hero in my view. and he wasn't a HERO type guy like you said. He had his share of faults and insecurites, for example he was unforgivin yes now hes more tolerant like i said, he didn't have too many friends which Nupur emphasized in their post Talent Parade fight. yes, now he has friends whom he cares fo r he genuinely cares for sam hes become nice enuf for even uday to talk to him about his heartbreak..all this takes away his uniqueness? i felt it makes him better but hes essentially the same u can see the way he shut annie up in the poolparty though he was being stupid -All this set him apart from what we've seen on T.V. before. But now, to me, his character has been distorted beyond recognition. To me, that entire locket episode where he just leaps to do Nupur's bidding totally shows a lack of self respect.....and not simply no ego. it wasnt lack of self respect, i know its impossible to convince anyone on these point its more of a feeling. see his face when nup throws the locket after he showed such a girlie thing to everyone he shows anger and immediately its the characteristic mayank determination back when he says i ll get it back. in this whole thing nups to blame , yes he cudve refused to get it for her and they wudve still been ok but he knows these r the things that shes been growing up with and no amt of explaining to her is going to make any headway...he does try to make her see sense its not as if he just wore it and then played fetch lik so many people said. in fact what ive been most upset about what the way he tried to cheat with chinnus locket- now that wasnt certainly what mayank wud do If he had any self respect he would have simply refused to do what she expected him to do. The Mayapari cut outs, the ludicrous date, and the terrible dialogues he has been mouthing recentlyare other examples of how this character has been destroyed.

3 nupur has pretty much remained how she was except during the locket track, she needs to grow up which has started with the apologetic post locket hug.. I certainly hope so. In the locket track, like you said, she was vapid and shrewish. I do hope we do not get a Mayank type degeneration in her case at least.

4 MN relationship post confession- cmon guys look at the times we had-the whole confession itself/ last bits of play/ fanaa hug/ THE WALk / uday kabab mein haddi / terrace scene ilu ones / udays bday party scenes/ last weeks i dont need u to say ilu and then phone ilu scene etc.,

controversy has been about-- how and when did they fall in love? that was not sudden.. in fact it was the realisation and accceptance that was done quite well with the help of the play...though not all scenes were acceptable to all The scenes you've mentioned earlier, are to me just "moments". Where have we ever seen something solid and real which forms as the foundation of their relationship ? can u tell me one scene between them which didnt speak of depth in their relationship? except the locket fight. bcoz it was a fight

2ndly, mayank turning raj pooohhhhh i dont know who raj is and never liked ddlj esp raj in that and i dont care to compare MAYANK with anyone else-yes he was silly about those mayapari / arranging for the date or the actual date itself but then my question is y shouldnt mayank be silly in love?
on one hand we r talking about no physical intimacy between those two coz of their age , on the other we expect mayank to remain buddha ish....doesnt g together. Nobody expects Mayank to remain "buddhaish" as you've put it. What we're looking for is an emotional bond, a connection, and not just scenes which just emphasize their physical chemistry. physical attraction is a huge part of the relationship between MN theyve always been attracted to eachother and i want it to remain lik that.. the emotional bond grows as time passes for some lik S_G its emotional bond first and everything else later for these two its the other way hes thinking of what gunjans feelings will be when sams in jail coz he knows how imp she s to nups and bcoz he himself cares for those two. isnt that bonding? hes started bonding with not just nup hes has some conection with all those in contact with her or even others. and its NOT to impress her.nupur has never really understood mayank and i somehow feel she needs to accept more of his eccentricities which maybe they ll show us later
And as for being "silly in love", being in love doesn't mean losing your sense of identity and self respect, which is clearly the case for Mayank.

then jumpng into pool for the locket....esp the constant comments on malkin blah balh...again sometimes we all no matter how mature tend to overact/ overreact to situations- nups has always felt lik sam that mayank is too good for her....so she tried to see how far he would go to please her and once she realised it, she felt guilty. Her feeling guilty later doesn't excuse what she did earlier. She supposedly loves him, and yet she didn't hesitate in humiliating him in front of so many people, even while knowing how reserved and dignified Mayank is as a person (at least thats how they portrayed him earlier).

yes it doesnt excuse her at all but here we r dealing with 19 yr old girl whos trying to come to terms with the fact that this guy really loves her and more importantly is not ashamed of her. thankfully for us we dont have tulsis and parvathis who r never wrong.these r people who ll learn and grow just like all of us.u wont have nups repeating these things and somehow for me mayank dignity wasmaintained in the locket scene though not in that shaheed line.


next storyline for mayur--no theres no story. its just the daily routine stuff ....and i lik them for that...i dont want an accident/ triangle or whatever A storyline doesn't mean an accident or a triangle, it can simply be the process of two people finding each other and their daily trials and tribulations.
they r finding eachother nups has found out that mayanks not ashames of her and the respect she had for him before has actually increased post the pool party...and mayanks said that hes scared of her and is ready to let her handle him these r their daily trials and tribulations its not a story with events its only story with moments- moments of love. affection, confusion, respect irritation, dissapointment and what not


what couldve been better--editing editing editing esp mn scenes its so clear theyve changed tracks atleast 5 times from jungle scenes till now Agreed.

equal screentime for all ...difficult i know but for that they need to ve an integrated storyline of MJHT including all theside roles............not mayur-sajan-rania -sheena tracks running parallelly to cater to fans of one jodi. they shudve made us all fans of mjht first before fans of one pair I don't really care about screen time as long as what we're shown is sensible and meaningful, which hasn't been the case with MN since a very long time. So I totally don't mind the paucity of their scenes.

college life has been sidelined totally.i know most of agree on this point and miss it equally. Totally agree again.


all in all, though there have been disappointing episodes overall mjht has kept me happy. and mn have kept me glued to tv after 3 yrs of tv abstinence. and thats y i feel lik coming back to IF to share my love for the

Originally posted by: np18

definitely cant count sajan scenes and dont want to either....who wants sheena with them. better have lesser scenes than with sheena in them.

but yes i get ur point of less screen time and agree with u

Thnx 4 agreeing dear.....😊😊....u seem sensible........

@ np 18 i completely agree with you..

1 For me mayank and nupur have been the most realistic characters on TV... They are ppl with flaws and shortcomings.

2 I really dont understand when ppl talk abt lack of Emotional bonding... Is it sheding loads and loads of tear? not everyone falls in love with their being best friends. so its not a hard and fast rule to know the person inside out b4 falling in love.
as the topic starter mentioned, mayank's concern for sam and gunjan shows their bonding, and its still developing
and believe me physical attraction is really important for a relationship...not even a percent less than emotional bonding.

3 i strongly disagree that mayur are for comic relief, yes they are fun to watch, they are far from being called caricature. i just dont see it that way.
If you say uday is being shown as a caricature.. i agree, even his heartbreak was shown with funny background music.. for godsake

4 dialogues - some are weird... its as if it was written for someone else... agree on that.

5. screen time- As the topic started said " they need to ve an integrated storyline of MJHT including all theside roles............not mayur-sajan-rania -sheena tracks running parallelly to cater to fans of one jodi. they shudve made us all fans of mjht first before fans of one pair"

Bingo on that.

6. The change in their characters- Example: right before the confession, mayank was treating nupur as an experiment, he was completely confusing her. most of us hated mayank and said mayank's character is totally destroyed. but by the end of the play mayank says " for the first time i dont know what is going happen" i really loved it. I love it when characters learn from their mistakes.

i dont think some gross injustice is being done to MN. we ve had inconsistencies in other plots too.

There is always scope for improvement . but still mjht is interesting enough to tune in at 9 everyday.

* extremely sorry if anyone is hurt.. just my opinion.

i fully agree wid u topic starter ......... for me MN r still da same ....... nd will alwayz be ........ da problem is screen space nd hope PD does something abt it as well.......