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Posted: 4 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: AvantikaP

And the viewers seem to love the bad Raghav.

I remember the Mandaar track, everyone was demanding a strong badaas Raghav. Nobody wanted a Devdas Raghav


Obviously he does not value money more than his family. But he knows money helps, he knows money is important.

It's because there's a clash between a realist (Raghav) and an idealist (Pallavi). He believes that morals look good in a text book but don't always work in real life, while she believes that you should never deviate from your moral code.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Wilddreams

Raghav himself told Pallavi "change is the only constant thing in this world and he learned this from his Nanna(dad)."

He himself promised her to change himself and be a better man when he asked for second chance from her❤️❤️


He don't necessarily change but we do learn from our experiences and evolve as humans over time. Both Pallavi and Raghav will learn from this track and grow as humans and as a couple.


Money is alot of things but isn't everything.

Raghav needs to learn that. That's why Abhishek's mom burned that bag full of money.

Pallavi needs to learn everything isn't black or white. There's shade of grey also exists.

I'm fine with Raghav changing for the right reasons. I just don't want to see Pallavi continue to remain on the moral high ground as though she has it all figured out. It's high time we saw her character growth too where she starts to understand the harsh realities of life.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: d.padmini


And I am one of them..he is flawed, he is grey, he is not a typical ITV ML..that is want makes him different unique and lovable..

A huge part of the audience is too. He's not evil or an out-and-out villain so I don't want him doing serious criminal activities but to remain the gray zone as long as it's safe.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: chokri

The only thing that needs to change is Pallavi's rose tinted glasses so that she stops seeing things she wants instead of what they actually are.

Oh, thank you!

I would so love it if that's how this track turned out, where she ends up learning something instead of being the one to preach and reform.

Her character's stagnating otherwise... Anyway, it's pretty clear the writers are doing this deliberately, so I'm guessing the have something up their sleeves for her too in terms of a wake up call.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Couch.Potato

Everyone changes and evolves with time, what’s wrong in that ? No one is asking Raghav to change core characteristics, he is only been asked to rethink way he does business because it’s illegal and recently someone lost his life because of it.

Past trauma and other charity activities he does , doesn’t justify hiring young boys and risking one’s and their lives for extra profit .

Pallavi is aware that Raghav is Ghamandi, stubborn, impulsive,impatient, and so on, that’s his core characteristics.Raghav knows Pallavi is lecture ka dukaan, ziddi, Sherlock Holmes ka nani etc, they both despised these characteristics of each other prior to marriage but have now learned to accept them.

I respectfully disagree that Pallavi has learned to accept Raghav as he is. She thought of him in a certain way and now that her bubble's burst and she's seeing the 'real unchanged him' she doesn't like it at all and is struggling to accept the truth. These are not my words, they are hers, and it's totally fine. Just like her bubble burst with the Ds, it's now burst with Raghav. She will see the actual situation for herself and figure out how much she can accept and where she draws the line. Same for him, he needs to figure out to what extent he can or should bend to please her vs. doing it for his own peace of mind or doing nothing at all.

Nobody debates him needing to stop his illegal activities, but her saying that his generosity is a front for all his criminal activities is going too far. It's the black or white approach that's jarring.

Raghav has never said that he was perfect or that he had all the answers, he's shown a willingness to bend and if convinced it's the right thing to do he will change again. I just don't think that she gets what she wants out of this marriage anymore or has communicated to him, so maybe that's what they both need: a proper discussion on where they see these matters going and what their individual stances on this are.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: chokri

The only thing that needs to change is Pallavi's rose tinted glasses so that she stops seeing things she wants instead of what they actually are.

Writers will need to use their heads for this, and they're too lazy to do so. Butchering leaders is a simple method to allow negative characters to stay and move the narrative forward; I'm not sure whether they realise how much damage they're causing.


Why hasn't Pallavi confronted Aai over big revelation ? Because they need Aai - Pallavi conversations to give insight to Pallavi’s POV and guide her ? Krishna could have easily substituted Aai 🤔 Writers have an unhealthy amount of fondness for Sunki and Deshmukh.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Couch.Potato

Writers will need to use their heads for this, and they're too lazy to do so. Butchering leaders is a simple method to allow negative characters to stay and move the narrative forward; I'm not sure whether they realise how much damage they're causing.


Why hasn't Pallavi confronted Aai over big revelation ? Because they need Aai - Pallavi conversations to give insight to Pallavi’s POV and guide her ? Krishna could have easily substituted Aai 🤔 Writers have an unhealthy amount of fondness for Sunki and Deshmukh.

You know, I was thinking the same that why didn't she talk to Krishna about all this, when Krishna had been her go-to before the marriage and in the early day of the marriage too. I miss seeing Pallavi and Krishna's dynamics. I was so fond of that!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: eveline

I beg to differ..the title song clearly mentions that the the man she meets will bring her all the happiness in the world and only one man has done that so far and will keep on doing it..selflessly..Raghav!!

The title song is more like reassuring Pallavi that her life is going to be completed by a man..kind of theme. Yes, it addresses Pallavi but talks about Raghav!!

If this story was only and only about Pallavi than why does the title say mehendi hai rachnewali and talk about her future partner or show Raghav too..why not name the show Pallavi Akeli hai ladnewali...seriosuly this is a story of two characters..why should one be sacrificed for the other??

I don't remember Raghav ever stopping her after marriage as far as her work is concerned, on the contrary he even got her Nawab's project by reommending her and cutting down on his own profits...selective amnesia!! Not his fault if Pallavi gives more precedence to ex in laws and ex husband!!

Friends?? When did she have any?? The only mention ever has been a friend that was mudered by Mandar before her wedding..I don't see Raghav as a man who would stop Pallavi from meeting her friends..lol..u kidding right..he is not even stopping her from meeting her ex clingy psycho husband, why would he stop her from meeting friends??

Of course, he asked Pallavi to change her dressing style..which episode was that?? His first gift was downright rejected and ridiculed by the ladies of the family..and he will dictate her dressing style?? Bechare ka toh gift bhi reject ho jaata hai..woh kya kisiki style dictate karega 😆

I think understanding a character like Raghav is beyond certain people. As far as Amma and Kirti and of course Pallavi are concerned they know that they rule his heart, his mind and his house. On the contrary, in some way or another, all the women in his life have taken advantage of this, rejected him, insulted his love, have thrown it back in his face and have hurt him immensely..while he still continues to love them unconditionally..ironic!!

The months they have been married, all Raghav has done is support Pallu, in all her undertakings...i would like to see a man who would ever let his wife take care of an ex husband, and show support to a wife who leaves her current one high and dry and decides to stay at her in laws place. I m wondering here, are we watching the same show?? I mean are we talking about the same man because the Raghav you are talking about seems to be created by your biased imagination..and the one we see on our screens has a totally different set of attributes.

I agree, we do need to ask someone here why put up with this.. why HE did put up with her through all that crap. Why does he help her, her so called Aai, her so called Baba?? Why put up with her at all and her selfish ex inlaws??

Keyword..selfish.. and when u mention that word..only one person comes to mind, one who has stubbornly again and again only thought about what she wants, what she thinks is right, what she wants to do..A marriage is about two people...two ..not about one dictating right and wrong and the other simply complying!!

Hey Eveline!

Thanks a lot for this post. I think you adequately described what a lot of people have been feeling about this. 👏

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Posted: 4 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: inlieu

I respectfully disagree that Pallavi has learned to accept Raghav as he is. She thought of him in a certain way and now that her bubble's burst and she's seeing the 'real unchanged him' she doesn't like it at all and is struggling to accept the truth. These are not my words, they are hers, and it's totally fine. Just like her bubble burst with the Ds, it's now burst with Raghav. She will see the actual situation for herself and figure out how much she can accept and where she draws the line. Same for him, he needs to figure out to what extent he can or should bend to please her vs. doing it for his own peace of mind or doing nothing at all.

Nobody debates him needing to stop his illegal activities, but her saying that his generosity is a front for all his criminal activities is going too far. It's the black or white approach that's jarring.

Raghav has never said that he was perfect or that he had all the answers, he's shown a willingness to bend and if convinced it's the right thing to do he will change again. I just don't think that she gets what she wants out of this marriage anymore or has communicated to him, so maybe that's what they both need: a proper discussion on where they see these matters going and what their individual stances on this are.

I am not differing with your opinion much , I believe Pallavi has accepted behavioural flaws of his (which irritated her a lot before marriage), but not major ones such as the nature of his business. Raghav has shown himself whiter than he is, allowing her to live in a bubble and entertaining her comments and beliefs. He even promised her that he'd pay CD and she believed him right away, because that's how she is, easily and overly trusting people she loves, she did it with the Deshmukhs, and now it's Raghav. I believe it is due to Raghav’s habit to please and lie in order to keep people close to him, and Pallavi’s nature to to place the tremendous amount of faith in the people she loves. Yes, indeed! Her bubble is about to shatter,they’ll have to face and talk about what they've both evaded up to this point.


@bold - her dialogues were off no doubt i personally took it as things she said in fit of anger realising that he lied to her and doesn’t necessarily mean that his generosity is facade to hide illegal business.


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He didn't say it out loud, but he has allowed her to live in a bubble in which he has changed after their marriage. The audience has known and seen Raghav's soft side before marriage, but it only came out in front of Pallavi as a form of redemption, so she believes he changed after that. As for business, he promised he'd stop, so in my opinion it wasn't wrong for Pallavi, as a character the way she is, to believe he's changed for the better, that he's changed major complaints she had about him, becoming perfect partner . I personally think, this is where Ramaswamy’s identity needs to get revealed so that Pallavi has deeper insight into how Raghav was prior to his redemption.


My whole point in my original post was that Pallavi (as of now) doesn’t wish to change Raghav’s personality as whole.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: inlieu

You know, I was thinking the same that why didn't she talk to Krishna about all this, when Krishna had been her go-to before the marriage and in the early day of the marriage too. I miss seeing Pallavi and Krishna's dynamics. I was so fond of that!

+1

I'm done with writer’s laziness.Negative characters win ridiculously easily, and the leads aren't shown conversing so that the writers may simply create misunderstandings.

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