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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arshics


Santhi, you are too kind. It was poor scripting and direction, and lack of attention to detail, that's what it was.

and we suffer from bollywood hangover, of long drawn death bed speeches. Though Dadi's speech and desire to tell Rudra everything was in place, it should've been juxtaposed with rudras attempts to save her.

Punnus speech was meaningless, filmy and added nothing to the story. He had already said his Bhaiyya bhauji stuff earlier, and what more Charles couldve rushed him to the hospital, instead of just leaving him there to die.

Very very shoddily written aftermath of massacre


Punnu's dialogues to thappadiya mai? That was very bellwood. That too 70s kind. Punni's death was pathetic.

I thought dadi was stabbed enough by Mr. Dansh to get a ticket. Her will power made her last till Rudra came. I didn't find anything odd in that.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Santhi,
I am angry with Rudras portrayal for a few reasons

1. His total inaction - it's not over till it's over.

2. His indifference to the others lying dead around him - he did not even offer them the dignity of covering their bodies - he did it for his Dadi and Sahdev and not the others.

3. The opportunity for an Ashoka like realisation was compeletly passed over for the samlanesque dramatic shirt ripping and screaming

It would've been so much more heroic if he had looked at all the bodies lying around and felt the pain for them too - they were innocent victims of his family's actions - and then understood his niyati to protect them.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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omg did they kill punnu or dadi ...😡😭
m still catching last two wks i avoid forum bt i just c chcked this topic
m still at rudra and maya marriage episode 😛

i guess i should avoid till i catch all episodes
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I was always hoping Rudra would have a self-realisation of sorts about his role, his calling. But I did not think it would be because of personal loss. The Naagas know that for Rudra, his family, his friends is his weakness. But it is for Rudra to realise, that his attachments are world threatening. Unless he does that, he will only be a reluctant Garud, not the willing soldier who fights for the protecting the world from evil forces.
Hopefully all is not lost. The evil think of none, but the good always care for the well-being of others. And that is their strength. I have a lingering thought that Shiva's weakness is his son Rudra and hence his inaction at the Naaga arrival. Maybe he would have comprehended and acted better had it not been for Rudra-Maya marriage, or his worry about Rudra's emotional turmoil.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arshics

Santhi,

I am angry with Rudras portrayal for a few reasons

1. His total inaction - it's not over till it's over.

2. His indifference to the others lying dead around him - he did not even offer them the dignity of covering their bodies - he did it for his Dadi and Sahdev and not the others.

3. The opportunity for an Ashoka like realisation was completely passed over for the samlanesque dramatic shirt ripping and screaming

It would've been so much more heroic if he had looked at all the bodies lying around and felt the pain for them too - they were innocent victims of his family's actions - and then understood his niyati to protect them.



Great points everyone. One of the reasons his roar does not convince us is that he did not see the destruction of his panth waasi's only his family and never even thought that if someone could be saved then to do so. That would have probably made his helplessness , anguish and finally his roar more believable. Coming to saving his daadi she had lost too much blood to have been able to save her plus the shock of seeing his mother dead.
He was in Mayaland and I guess the return trip causes some jetlag, taking time to recover and reassess.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Arshi,

Aapke sirf ek sawaal, simple sa, ka sirf ek jawab, simple sa.

Maya is apparently not yet dispensable. Punnu was always so, and apparently Daadi is too, seeing that Maimuyi is coming back as Bhairavi to maintain the seniors quota for heavyweight acting.

This apart, the way in which Rudra continued to stare at a blood-drenched Daadi coming towards him - her hand pressed tight to her midriff and her body bent almost double in the effort to maintain that pressure - was as incomprehensible as it was appalling.

His look was not blank or uncomprehending, something which could have been understood for the first moment after he sights her. He looked curious, as if he was trying to unravel the puzzle of what was approaching him. And he held that look for what looked like ages before his eyes registered recognition, and then shock. It was surreal, and I simply could not understand WHAT the director had in mind for poor Gautam in that scene.

Compared to this fiasco, Charles' reaction in that Sholay style scene when he sights that body line up was very good. His eyes widened in shock, and it looked genuine.

I am not going to start on Daadi's superlative swan song now, but will reserve that for tomorrow.

Shyamala


Originally posted by: Arshics

aaj ki post mein sirf ek sawaal

Simple sa

When Maya was injured in the forest

Rudra ran with her, all the way

And brought her to the hospital

And saved her life


Why did he not do it

For punnu or Dadi?

Even though medical help was close at hand...

Sawaal Mera, Jawab aap sab ke

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Posted: 10 years ago
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as rudra think only maya complete him properly, and she is alive still now i guess that is why he did take headache for others...lol🤣
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Spot on, Arshi. Gautam is being taken for a ride by the writer and the director. On Thursday, Charles did much better all round than Rudra. The shirt tearing scene was patently ridiculous. Do also see my other response above to your primary question.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Arshics

Santhi,

I am angry with Rudras portrayal for a few reasons

1. His total inaction - it's not over till it's over. That started inside where Rudra continued to goggle at Punnu till Thappadiya Mai told him to go out and see what could be done. Charles was at least calling the DM. Rudra was blank and useless. Probably jetlagged after being jerked back from Maayanagri, as Kitsin suggested!😉

2. His indifference to the others lying dead around him - he did not even offer them the dignity of covering their bodies - he did it for his Dadi and Sahdev and not the others. They did not even register with him. Nor did Daadi, for an interminable moment, as he continued to look at her with a kind of curiosity that was unbelievable.

3. The opportunity for an Ashoka like realisation was compeletly passed over for the samlanesque dramatic shirt ripping and screaming Well, of course, unlike Ashoka, he was not responsible for this carnage, and I do not think he was mentally in a state to realise anything, even that it was his Daadi in that blood drenched sari moving towards him.

Rudra is clearly not equipped to handle crises unless they concern Maya!😉 At least when it was Maimuyi dying, he barked at Maya to call a doctor. Now, as you have noted,the clinic was near at hand and yet he did not even try to get them there.

It would've been so much more heroic if he had looked at all the bodies lying around and felt the pain for them too - they were innocent victims of his family's actions - and then understood his niyati to protect them. I think he is much more likely to start lamenting "Yeh sab mere saath hi kyon hota hai???"

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I agree with you, Arshi, and I would not give No.60 more than 20%.

Santhi, WE know that Daadi has lost too much blood and cannot be saved, but how does Rudra know that? And if he goes there only on Punnu's prodding and that of Thappadiya Mai, instead of going back to "conversing" with Maya, is he to be given brownie points for that? When your loved ones are found as these are, you jolly well burst your lungs trying to get them to a hospital. No matter if they seem to be on their last legs. As Arshi said elsewhere, nothing is over till it is over,and till then one keeps trying.

As of now, Rudra is a dead loss. And what was it with that ludicrous T-shirt tearing? 😡

It was pathetic, the whole of Episode 60, shoddily written, worse directed, and the poor actors left in the lurch. The way in which Rudra looked at Daadi staggering towards him, with the kind of curiosity with which a bird-watcher looks at a new species, was unbelievably badly conceived.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Arshics


Santhi, you are too kind. It was poor scripting and direction, and lack of attention to detail, that's what it was.

and we suffer from bollywood hangover, of long drawn death bed speeches. Though Dadi's speech and desire to tell Rudra everything was in place, it should've been juxtaposed with rudras attempts to save her.

Punnus speech was meaningless, filmy and added nothing to the story. He had already said his Bhaiyya bhauji stuff earlier, and what more Charles couldve rushed him to the hospital, instead of just leaving him there to die.

Very very shoddily written aftermath of massacre



Originally posted by: pasumarthisa



Hehe. Not only that , even after charles calls dm, doc could not be sent. Punnu was left to die. That is shocking.

Punnu asked him to save dadi n Ganga. I think dadi. To be fair on Rudra, he goes there on punnu's prodding and dadi was on the brink. I guess it was too late.

With Maya he saw her being thrown n knew she could be rescued.



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

I agree with you, Arshi, and I would not give No.60 more than 20%.

Santhi, WE know that Daadi has lost too much blood and cannot be saved, but how does Rudra know that? And if he goes there only on Punnu's prodding and that of Thappadiya Mai, instead of going back to "conversing" with Maya, is he to be given brownie points for that? When your loved ones are found as these are, you jolly well burst your lungs trying to get them to a hospital. No matter if they seem to be on their last legs. As Arshi said elsewhere, nothing is over till it is over,and till then one keeps trying.

As of now, Rudra is a dead loss. And what was it with that ludicrous T-shirt tearing? 😡

It was pathetic, the whole of Episode 60, shoddily written, worse directed, and the poor actors left in the lurch. The way in which Rudra looked at Daadi staggering towards him, with the kind of curiosity with which a bird-watcher looks at a new species, was unbelievably badly conceived.

Shyamala






Ayyo, if you see the whole convo(Arshi and I) i was hinting that Rudra didnt save Punnu because he asked him to save dadi. That was where I was trying to go.

And dadi asked him to save his mother. And died soon after. Could he try to save dadi. Ofcourse yes. But I didn't see too much wrong in him not rushing Dadi to hospital. Thats all.

I agree. The whole massacre was poorly written. There are people walking around when that 'shav-vahan' comes in and leaves. But none around the BNP shivir. And many more.


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