Mahabharat Retelecast Discussion Thread 5 - Page 20

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Who is kaneen ?

This mean draupadi has daughter suthanu with Yudi.

Kaneen means illegitimate child, like Karna was a Kaneen child

Suthanu is mentioned in Vayu Puran as the wife of Bhanu, not sure if HV mentions her

But yes I feel that Suthanu isn't a fictional addition, she must have been a real character

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

He was lost and was found in Ekchakra. Which is one of the reasons I believe he was not her son.

Prativindhya was also called avatar of Ekchakra demon. And Ekchakra was the name of the village Pandavas stayed in before swayamvara.

Perhaps Yudhishtira had the son with Devika who was already dead. When Panchali swayamvara came up, he needed to tell Drupada he was not yet married so he'd be allowed to marry her instead of Arjuna. The baby was left in the village with someone. Arjuna later brought him back. Panchali adopted him.

Do you think other Uppandavas weren't Draupadi's son either?

Wait don't answer it here, answer it in our topic😆

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Even if Shakuni's son and Karna's sons and the others he killed had survived nothing would have changed in the epic.

Now during the war people fight win or lose that doesn't make any changes at all. Nakul having been a good fighter doesn't make him an important character, Lakshman was a great warrior, he killed Shikhandi's son, was the one who challenged Abhimanyu at a time when topmost Kauravas including Dron and Ashwathama were reluctant to face him, and fought bravely with him. Karna's son Vrishsen was a nightmare to Pandavas army, he had defeated all the 5 Uppandavas in a one to five combat on the very day he entered the war, single handedly nearly killed Drupad while entering into enemy arena, and when Drupad's charioteer took him away out of battlefield, Vrishsen killed half akshauni of Drupad army on his own. But that doesn't make Lakshman or Vrishsen important for the epic.

Chitrangad ji was everything that Bheeshm was, powerful, warrior, zealous, ambitious, righteous etc. but that doesn't make him important for the epic.

Same is the case with Nakul.

Nothing would have changed if these characters were not in epic.

I didn't say that everything could be written by Vyas(although if he was such a fast horse runner that is important much more important than him being handsome so should have been mentioned by Vyas), I said that riding in rain without getting wet is physically not possible.

Regarding the last part, it's not a myth, Shanti Parva is very clear that Sahdev openly supported Draupadi's demand for war.

Later in the same Parva Krishna tells Vidur that the villages were chosen by Sahdev since he knew that Duryodhan would never agree to give them.

Sahdev being a great astrologer is not of much use to the epic, but the above acts are, which is the reason he is much important unlike Nakul

If by rejecting a shanti prastav someone became important then I will say all 4 Pandavas were not important specially Yudi who was most useless one . Anyhow krishna knew dury will not agree 4 shanti prastav even he himself was not interested in that.

Shakuni was good warrior but not excellent one like drona, bheesam , so killing him would not been so difficult 4 Sahdev coz he himself was excellent axe or sword fighter like nakul. Sahdev was very intelligent one so he can't be manipulated by Shakuni 4 sure.

So I don't understand how can u prove nakul was not important.

Coz all 5 Pandavas has their own role in Mahabharat.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

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Yes that's mentioned and if that's true then Prativindhya can not be Draupadi's son, as Pandavas lived in Ekchakranagri before Panchali Swayamwar, in that case Prativindhya could be a Kaneen son of Yudhishtir who was adopted by Draupadi

Why would Drau adopt him but? It's not like he is given any major importance like Abhimanyu Or Ghato. Drau specifically reasoned for releasing Yudi from slavery as she didn't want Prati to be called a slaves son after being raised a Prince all his life.

Aww check out Sakha-Sakhi shaking a leg.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCN2qh7HErt/?igshid=14mywd3854uzf

I read somewhere bheem did great penance 2 soma to get son from draupadi , his name was sutsoma.

I guess soma is Chandra other name

Vaise nakul Sahdev r twin brothers but why only nakul is said to be most handsome , even Sahdev 2 would be .

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

Aww check out Sakha-Sakhi shaking a leg.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCN2qh7HErt/?igshid=14mywd3854uzf

I just saw this video in Instagram and you posted it here

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

I read somewhere bheem did great penance 2 soma to get son from draupadi , his name was sutsoma.

I guess soma is Chandra other name

Yes. He did 1000 soma yagna to get a son from Draupadi.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

If by rejecting a shanti prastav someone became important then I will say all 4 Pandavas were not important specially Yudi who was most useless one . Anyhow krishna knew dury will not agree 4 shanti prastav even he himself was not interested in that.

Shakuni was good warrior but not excellent one like drona, bheesam , so killing him would not been so difficult 4 Sahdev coz he himself was excellent axe or sword fighter like nakul. Sahdev was very intelligent one so he can't be manipulated by Shakuni 4 sure.

So I don't understand how can u prove nakul was not important.

Coz all 5 Pandavas has their own role in Mahabharat.

If Yudi wasn't there, game of dice wouldn't have happened, he was the monarchial candidate from Pandavas side, epic could not have happened without him

If Bheem wasn't there, killing Jarasangh was nearly impossible, killing of Duryodhan, Dusshashan and other Kauravas was necessary to win the war, without him the epic wouldn't have remained the same. The results would have been very different.

If Arjun wasn't there, release of Draupadi from slavery was difficult, killing of Karna, protection of Yudhishtir from capture during the war etc. couldn't have happened, the result would have been completely different

If Sahdev wasn't there as I said none of Pandav brothers would have been in direct open support with Draupadi.

Krishna might not have wanted the Shanti Prastav to be accepted, but he would definitely not have the inner details of another state to understand which five villages could be asked for. Sahdev's insights was necessary to ensure that only those villages are proposed which would be definitely rejected by Duryodhan while giving Pandavas a moral upper hand that they were most accomodating

There was however nothing done by Nakul in the epic which if not done would have changed anything in the epic. Therefore he definitely is a very useless character.