Mahabharat Retelecast Discussion Thread 3 - Page 107

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

Draupadi wasn't there doing tilak of Arjun-Bheem yesterday. Was she busy with Yudi? Isnt there some part of the epic where it says Yudi taunted Arjun about not being able to kill Karna with his gandiv and Arjun taunted him back for giving orders from Draupadi's bed?

Yeah that I read somewhere in the Forum may be. That Arjuna said that Yudi insults him by sitting on Panchali's bed.

Originally posted by: Andy3456

May be. It is said that Yudhisthir was an excellent chariot racer. For his honesty, his chariot used to be 4 inches above the ground

Have heard the folklore

But is it mentioned in the epic

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

She returns from Dyut Sabha dejected when Kunti asks her about what happened there. She stays silent

Kunti asks the question again and Draupadi literally says "Out" all are stunt for a moment post which she says Samragyi wants to stay alone so you both leave (Kunti+Gandhaari). As they are leaving, she says that no one would go to the Sabha since her husband is following his Dharma

Sorry friend Draupadi was fierce but not indecent to ask Kunti to leave especially when she wasn't even at fault, howsoever disturbed she might be, she knew her duties and followed them

I agree she was rude but I feel she vented her anger/disappointment indirectly on the two mothers coz both of them are responsible for the upbringing of the sons & their misguided sense of dharma. A part of fault of the children's misdeeds would lie on the parents too.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

She returns from Dyut Sabha dejected when Kunti asks her about what happened there. She stays silent

Kunti asks the question again and Draupadi literally says "Out" all are stunt for a moment post which she says Samragyi wants to stay alone so you both leave (Kunti+Gandhaari). As they are leaving, she says that no one would go to the Sabha since her husband is following his Dharma

Sorry friend Draupadi was fierce but not indecent to ask Kunti to leave especially when she wasn't even at fault, howsoever disturbed she might be, she knew her duties and followed them

This is why I once said Star Draupadi is a little rude

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

But the descandents of SriRam supported Kauravas right??

I guess Vibhishan might have taken the Pushpak Viman and gave it to Ghato

Nhi I mean seriously someone was saying its mentioned in the epic

No i mean maybe someone tried to make another Pushpak Viman and it was defective so only 2 inches above or something. Yudhi ko de diya. 🤣

I have never read this in epic though. Hope someone gives citation

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Even if that was the mother's fault, still she had no right to vent onto them. Asking them to leave the room is way not acceptable

Can Krishna be blamed for Samb's r**e attempt on Lakshmana?

Yes it reflects on the kind of values Krishna has instilled in Samba. Certainly.

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Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

What kind of logic is that ?? Krishna should be the last person to be accused of such a thing. And not because of divine angle attached to him but because of the kind of human being he was.

So? There can be mistakes made by a human. Parents are our first guru. And I am not accusing him of anything. I answered a question the original poster asked.

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

Krishna cannot and should not be blamed for what samba did he disowned his son. Its balram who went to rescue him. Krishna cursed him

Kunti should not be blamed for yudhishtra did since she was clearly not in favour of what he did. She in her conversation with krishna ask him to tell her son to follow drapaudi s lead

Repairing thither, O mighty-armed one, say unto that foremost of all bearers of arms, Arjuna the heroic son of Pandu,--Tread thou the path that may be pointed out to thee by Draupadi. It is known to thee, O Kesava, that when inflamed with rage, Bhima and Arjuna, each like unto the universal Destroyer himself, can slay the very gods. That was a great insult offered unto them, viz., that their wife Krishna, having been dragged into the assembly was addressed in such humiliating terms by Dussasana and Karna. Duryodhana himself hath insulted Bhima of mighty energy in the very presence of the Kuru chiefs. I am sure he will reap the fruit of that behaviour, for Vrikodara, provoked by a foe, knoweth no peace. Indeed, once provoked, Bhima forgets it not for a long while, even until that grinder of foes exterminates the enemy and his allies. The loss of kingdom did not grieve me; the defeat at dice did not grieve me. That the illustrious and beautiful princess of Panchala was dragged into the assembly while clad in a single raiment and made to hear bitter words grieved me most. What, O Krishna, could be a greater grief to me? Alas, ever devoted to Kshatriya customs and endued with great beauty, the princess, while ill, underwent that cruel treatment, and though possessing powerful protectors was then as helpless as if she had none. O slayer of Madhu, having thee and that foremost of all mighty persons, Rama, and that mighty car-warrior Pradyumna for me and my children's protectors and having, O foremost of men, my sons the invincible Bhima and the unretreating Vijaya both alive, that I had still such grief to bear is certainly strange!'

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m05/m05090.htm

She says that whenever she remembers about her daughter in laws plight even pandavas cease to be worthy of her affection. Clearly she holds them accountable and chooses her daughter krishnaa over them.

Here -

how, O Achyuta, is that Draupadi now? Having five heroic husbands who are all smiters of foes and all mighty bowmen, each equal unto Agni in energy, alas, woe hath yet been the lot of Drupada's daughter. I have not for fourteen long years, O chastiser of foes, beheld the princess of Panchala, that daughter-in-law of mine' who herself hath been a prey to constant anxiety on account of her children, whom she hath not seen for that period. When Drupada's daughter endued with such a disposition, doth not enjoy uninterrupted happiness, it seemeth, O Govinda, that the happiness one enjoyeth is never the fruit of one's acts. When I remember the forcible dragging of Draupadi to the assembly, then neither Vibhatsu nor Yudhishthira, nor Bhima, nor Nakula, nor Sahadeva, becometh an object of affection to me. Never before had a heavier grief been mine than what pierced my heart when that wretch Dussasana, moved by wrath and covetousness, dragged Draupadi, then in her flow, and therefore clad in a single raiment, into the presence of her fatherin-law in the assembly

Clearly Kunti and panchali shared a very close bond and kunti trusted panchali more than her own sons

Thank You for sharing.

I still hold my view.

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

Yes it reflects on the kind of values Krishna has instilled in Samba. Certainly.

Well you are free to hold your views but scolding an elder because what one of their sons did can in no way be acceptable