could Karna ever be friend of Bheem and Arjun if truth was revealed?

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If Kunti revealed the truth would BheemArjun accept Karna & vise versa

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I had this question for quite some time now , after so many persons do cry if that could happen if kaju was real and i am also one of them but this possibility was irking me

i have always read in epic and in interpretations of writer Karna and BheemArjun were sworn enemies who just couldn't tolerate each other, Yudhisthir,Nakul and Sahadev were his enemies too but they were way mild

so if Kunti revealed the truth Yudhisthir would have been the first who would accept Karna since he mourned over Karna's death the most in epic so its easily can be assumed that Yudhisthir not only would accept but would be most respectful to Karna

Nakul and Sahadev had no proper say , they would accept what they were given so they would accept their eldest brother without second thought and would serve him

Karna on the other hand was not so bitter to Yudhisthir , since he accepted Yudhisthir deserved the throne over Duryodhan , so he too could accept Yudhisthir as a good mannered , mature, understanding brother
and Nakul-Sahadev would have been two kids for him so their arrogance was negligible for Karna , he would have showered affections to them

now question comes to the main two pandavas Bheema and Arjun , Karna was rival of arjun from Drona gurukul , on one hand Arjun thought Karna is associated with kauravas and Karna thought Arjun is wrongly favored by Drona and the bitterness increased later on Rangabhoomi so was there any chance for kaju to b real as they were enemies since childhood

and Bheem always insulted Karna right from rangabhoomi Karna too insulted Bheema their enmity were more fierce so could they be friend ever

was not it possible even Kunti revealed there would have been sibling rivalry between them and it was hard for them to accept each other
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Considering that Kunti bothered to reveal the truth to Karna only just before the war, and she never really told her sons about Karna during all the time they were happy ruling in IP...

I suppose, the situation can be looked at in two scenarios.
Scenario 1 -
If the truth had been revealed BEFORE Draupadi's insult while the Pandavas were still ruling in IP, it might've been (at best) a reconciliation of sorts between Karna & the Pandavas.
But I just can't see Bhim being buddies with Karna, considering his friendship with Dury.
Yudi, of course, would've been extra nice to Karna, and would've even offered the throne of IP to Karna...whether Karna would've accepted it or not is a completely different matter altogether.

Scenario 2 -
If the truth had been revealed SOON AFTER Draupadi's insult, I guess Yudi would've been like "he's our brother..."
But Bhim & Arjun would've been in no forgiving mood - brother or not.
And, I suppose Draupadi would've ensured that the Pandavas did not forget Karna's contribution to her humiliation...even if he was their brother.

But these are all hypothetical scenarios. I mean, let's not forget that Karna himself discovered his true identity only just before the war...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Once bheem had praised karna when he had said he was duryodhan's friend, not spy...bheem had praised karna's bravery saying only a true warrior can say that

and arjun also praised karna saying he is a great archer

and karna also shows respect towards them...so YES
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@shani but after truth was revealed pandavas forgot all what karna did to them, yudhisthir was not accepting throne , arjun's gandiv fell down so if they come to know that before karna's death possibility was still they would accept him forgetting all (not to forget what both krishna and kunti did offer to him after knowing all his misdeeds so if he would have accepted then he would actually get those promised possessions), rather it would be karna who would want punishment upon him

@kriya but all what u mentioned happened in starbharat not mahabharath
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I believe Karna, Bheema and ARjuna would have been not only friends but brothers
When, Arjuna came to know that Karna was his brother, he was deeply affected.. He would definitely have accepted him.
They would have been lenient towards Karna even after VH. I dont think Pandavas would have given up their claim though. Karna was not a rightful heir to the throne anyway because his niyog was not approved by Pandu. Yudhi was still rightful heir. But Karna would have still remained their elder brother.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I voted for Yes.. It definately makes a difference knowing the other person is your flesh n blood..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@cots but krishna himself said kanin son too is rightful heir and Karna is a pandav by all norms
yudi wanted give throne to vrishketu so i think pandavas would offer throne to karna but karna might not accept

all pandav would have accepted him as brother my question would bhreemarjun be that comfortable withkarna
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yah of course they will...afterall karn is their eldest brother...so my vote for yes...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Patrarekha

@cots but krishna himself said kanin son too is rightful heir and Karna is a pandav by all norms
yudi wanted give throne to vrishketu so i think pandavas would offer throne to karna but karna might not accept

all pandav would have accepted him as brother my question would bhreemarjun be that comfortable withkarna

Thanks for correction. I was not aware that Kanin too was rightful heir.
Oh You are talking about being comfortable..
I think Arjuna would have been comfortable as he is more of obedient, follower of norms.. Bheema may not have been comfortable. Bheema had been a rebel always. He does not hesitate to insult Yudhi and even wish to burn his hands. On the other hand, Arjuna when says bad words to yudhi just before Karna vadh, he wants to die for insulting elder.
All Pandavas except Bheema were respectful towards Dhrit after war. Bheema never forgave him and mainly due to his insults, finally Dhrit decided to retire to forest. Bheema is more expressive, intelligent and a rebel as well. There would be a tautness in their relation always..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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and what about karna? i mean from karna's side?

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