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Posted: 11 years ago
There was a Lot i actually Liked in Today's Episode than i expected to!😃 It looked more like an Episode made to drive home some basic points that we viewers need to keep in mind, if we want to try and bring a change in society today👏👏👏..And the CVs from the very Beginning have put Govind before us😊..giving all of us some Gyan or the other so we utilize that to better ourselves👍🏼...so that all of us can eventually make a sincere effort to walk in the path of Righteousness..this strong message is definitely needed in today's times..👏👏👏

Today's GG to Karna was one such Episode and Govind did highlight several aspects which i really liked!👏👏👏

Loved the bit where Govind enlightens Karna that Knowledge acquired for the sake of learning and helping others is the only true knowledge👍🏼..and not that acquired in Desire of proving a point or for the sake of competition. Knowledge if gained for the sake of competing with someone will be of no use when one needs it the most, because such knowledge isn't True..👏👏👏

Also Loved the way Govind said that the weak, down trodden, those belonging to the lower caste and people deprived of a place in society can still make a difference in the very same society by helping others like them.👍🏼 Yes, its wrong on the part of any society to discriminate against them or deny them equal opportunities, but such demeaning shouldn't t define one's existence. People who have the ability to turn their negativity into positive actions, will always get good results & eventually end up helping society as a whole👏..not sure though if the example of Sage Parashuram in justifying how he worked to change the face of society was needed here though..😕😳

Govind also aptly advises Karna and also us to make friends with those people who genuinely care for us and the society at large👏👏👏..and not with those who seek personal gain from one's friendship..likewise, people who live for themselves or their betterment alone will never gain anything in the long run...only those who strive to work with and for the society at large with their Knowledge and Abilities can bring True Change in the world!👍🏼

My Fav liner from Govind was: "Paapion ka paap nahi, dharm agyaanion ki nishkriyataa hain adharm mein vriddhi ka kaaran"... 👏👏👏Awesome!🥳 And so true..Karna was provoked to thinking at this point when he agrees with Krishna that he too had the Knowledge of right and wrong, Dharm and Adharm, but he chose not to act accordingly, but side Dury and Dury alone in the name of friendship😒..that friendship which Dury never utilized for the betterment of other weak & down trodden people of society, Like Madhav rightly said, but only used it to fan Karna's rage against Arjun and use him for the benefit of the Kauravas..

If anyone could've stopped Dury from doing his own even when he was wrong, it was Bhishm, Drona and Karna👍🏼..in their respective roles and relationships they shared with Dury..but none in their capacities or otherwise did anything in that regard, instead out of silence, earlier Vows or under the debt of Friendship, ended up fanning Dury's ego to the extent of the war😕..and so much destruction in return..it was only when Madhav made each of these great Maharathis realize their follies and where they lacked to fulfill their responsibilities, thru' the GG, did they understand where they went wrong..this turned out to be an eye opener for Karna too and that's when he displayed sadness and repentance for what he did or rather should have done, but didn't..😳

I Absolutely Loved the Krishna-Karna Convo at length today thru' the GG👏👏👏..Loved the way Krishna kept calling him Radheya and throwing light on aspects that Karna was oblivious to🥳..Loved the way Krishna was soft and understanding towards Karna, always placing a reassuring hand on Karna's shoulder as He imparted the GG🤗...and the Best part of it all😳...the last Hug between Krishna and Karna🤗..that was the most Beautiful bit of the depiction for me! Am so going to Miss these beautiful bits and the show once it wraps up!😭😭

Also Loved the bit where Karna asks Krishna if the world will never acknowledge his Talent and Prowess..and Krishna, with a smile says: "that you will be killed when u are without your bow , trying to take the wheel off your chariot and at a point when u have forgotten your knowledge, is in itself, the biggest proof of your talent and prowess"👏...and the smile that Krishna and Karna exchange is out of this world!👍🏼😃

I also Loved the Bit where Karna asks Krishna to let Panchali know that he has apologized to her, by letting his blood flow so as to wash off all her humiliation and insults caused👏..i was wishing for that bit to come, more so after the reaction they showed Karna portraying yesterday, when Krishna makes a mention of Karna's Adharm in calling Pancahli "Vaishya"...well done CVs for that and for those Great GG moments between Krishna and Karna..👏👏👏

Aham's scenes with SRJ came off Marvelously well👏...and i really wish we got some more of the two!! He is such a talented actor and made Karna come alive for me!!👏 Seriously going to Miss Him on the show!!😭😭

SRJ👏..he is the Most Adorable and Lovable Govind TV could have ever had!!🤗 His expressions changing from stern to peaceful to determined was pulled off so effortlessly.😳 His voice modulation was awesome..and so was the dialogue delivery!🥳 I so Love it when SRJ smiles as Govind...and his Eye-Talk is a Marvel in itself!👏👏👏 SRJ has personified Goind for me👏...and the Magnificence of Krishna is only enhanced with SRJ playing it to such Conviction!!🥳

And with Shaheer and SRJ together, their scenes are always Awesome!!🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sukanya_Datta


How can I ever forget such a beautiful episode of my fav jodi? 😳
It was the 69th episode which aired on 19th December. It is one of the most viewed episode by me as it also has that awesome "Murli Manohar" BG.

Thank u so much for the date and Epi no. Suki!🤗😳...gonna watch it all over again and smile thru' the beauty of it all!😃...and for the Murali Manohar BG...i so Loved the Parth-Govind bits in there...running around and remembering childhood, Madhav putting Parth into trouble with the Gopis and that joint "Hal Chalana" scene..👏...Unforgettable!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: luv_sakshi

Thank u so much for the date and Epi no. Suki!🤗😳...gonna watch it all over again and smile thru' the beauty of it all!😃...and for the Murali Manohar BG...i so Loved the Parth-Govind bits in there...running around and remembering childhood, Madhav putting Parth into trouble with the Gopis and that joint "Hal Chalana" scene..👏...Unforgettable!


Thank you sooo much Sukanya for the link...I was going to watch that episode again and you saved me the trouble of finding the epi no!!!

While i am at it...I will also watch the epi with Krishna's entry and Parth-Madhav's first meeting! I loved that Kalyavan epi...Paarth was so anxious about how they will fight with Kalyavan and Madhav just replied saying "to hum bhag jaayenge" 😆

@luv_sakshi...when Madhav steals the butter and Parth gets in trouble...that was sooo adorable!! Madhav at his naughty best!! 😳

I am really going to miss Parth-Madhav scenes like crazy 😭
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Sukanya_Datta


You are welcome. 😳
That was such an adorable moment between the sakhas. 😃😃 Parth was almost ROLFing after reading the letter and Madhav was thoroughly enjoying every moment. 😆😆
Aww... I can still remember every expression on their faces.. I am feeling nostalgic, have to go back and watch that episode again. 😳😳

Arjun: "Ye kya hai? 😲😆😆"
Krishna: "Patra Parth... Preeem patra!! 😎" 🤣🤣🤣


and then Arjun goes like "Bhuvan Sundar...kaun Madhav?" and Madhav is like "Main Paarth"😎. The way parth laughs cracks me up every single time!!

I just love how Madhav explains him that they have to kidnap her and Arjun is totally dumbfounded!! 😲😲

Seriously...I have no words for this duo! Divine soul mates!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Found this online

Krishna in Mahabharata - Treachery at Kurukshetra

Of the many aspects of Krishna in Mahabharata, one of the most confusing is his use of deceit during the war. In this story, we look at the basis behind these actions through some vividly narrated incidents from the battle.

Questioner: Krishna in Mahabharata, always talked about dharma andadharma, but during the Kurukshetra war, he used deceit to kill most of the great warriors, such as Bhishma and Dronacharya. Did he not practice what he taught?

Sadhguru: What Krishna did in the battlefield was not just deceit - it was absolute treachery. There were intricate strategic formations in which the warriors fought. One such formation, called chakravyuha, was almost impossible to penetrate, unless you knew its intricacies. Arjuna used to be the only one of the Pandavas who had this knowledge. When his wife Subhadra was pregnant with Abhimanyu, Arjuna spoke in the presence of his unborn son about how to penetrate a chakravyuha, and even in his mother's womb, Abhimanyu grasped it. But Arjuna did not talk about how to come out of the chakravyuha. Many years later, when the Kaurava army formed itself into a chakravyuha and was about to slaughter the whole Pandava army, Abhimanyu, 17 years of age but already a great hero, broke like a furious arrow through the chakravyuha, because he knew how to penetrate it. Bhima and Yudhisthira tried to follow him to save him, but when Abhimanyu went into the center, immediately, the chakravyuha closed again. In the middle of the chakravyuha, with no one else to support him, he killed many key people of the Kaurava army. Then his chariot went down. All his weapons were broken. You are not supposed to kill an unarmed person, but the Kauravas thought, "Even if he is just 17 years of age, he causes too much devastation." They felt they must put an end to Abhimanyu and attacked him. Abhimanyu picked up a chariot wheel and fought with that. No one person alone could kill him, so many of the Kaurava heroes gathered around Abhimanyu, which was totally against the laws of the battle. They all surrounded the boy and killed him.

Abhimanyu enters chakravyuha - stone carving at the Hoysaleswara temple, Halebid, India.

It was a rule of the war that when the sun sets, they must stop fighting. In the evening, when Arjuna came back to his camp, he saw his people mourning and realized that Abhimanyu had been killed in such a way. In straight battle, only very few men could have defeated Abhimanyu. Someone described how they had surrounded him from all sides and slain him. Arjuna took a vow: "By tomorrow sundown, I will have killed Jayadrada. Otherwise, I will kill myself." Hearing this, Duryodhana was overjoyed. He thought all they have to do was to completely protect Jayadrada, and Arjuna would die that night by his own hand, because he would stick to his word. Jayadrada was terrified. He wanted to quit the battle and go home. Duryodhana told him that this would not be good for their reputation. He said to Jayadrada, "Don't worry. We will deploy all our forces to protect you."

The next day, they formed a huge protective formation for Jayadrada so that he would not get killed. But from the first moment of the battle, Arjuna started penetrating through the opposing army towards Jayadrada, because if he did not kill Jayadrada, he would have to kill himself.

At the same time, Satyaki and Burishwara got into a fight. Satyaki, a close friend of Krishna and Arjuna, had an old feud to settle with Burishwara, who was over 70 years of age but still a great warrior. Satyaki was supposed to protect King Yudhisthira. But overcome by personal emotions, he left Yudhisthira's side and went towards Burishwara to attack him. When Arjuna saw that the king was left unprotected, he got concerned. But he could not divert his attention, since his own life was at stake. He continued to go towards Jayadrada. Satyaki attacked Burishwara, but after some time, Burishwara knocked down Satyaki from his chariot. Satyaki lost all his weapons and almost fainted. Burishwara descended from his chariot and put his foot on Satyaki's chest. Krishna saw this. Satyaki had been a staunch and a reliable lieutenant to him for many years. Krishna knew his abilities and limitations, and that Satyaki could not defeat Burishwara.

Map showing the place Kurukshetra, in the state of Haryana, India.

Krishna told Arjuna, "Burishwara is going to kill Satyaki. You must get Burishwara first before he kills Satyaki." Arjuna said, "How can I do that? Burishwara is fighting with Satyaki. Shooting him now would be against the Kshatriya dharma." Krishna told him, "Satyaki has come here only to fight for you. How can you let someone kill him now? Save him." Arjuna said, "No. It is against the law." Then Burishwara pulled out his sword in order to decapitate Satyaki. Again Krishna said, "Your friend, who put his life at stake for you, will be slaughtered now if you don't reach out to him. Will you let him die like this? What kind of dharma is this?" All this time, Arjuna's arrow was aimed at Jayadrada. When Burishwara was about to decapitate Satyaki, Arjuna turned and shot the arrow at Burishwara. Burishwara's right hand got severed. He looked around and said to Arjuna, "How could you do this? While I was fighting with another man, you shot me from behind and severed my hand? Anyone who has Kshatriya blood in him wouldn't do such a dastardly act. I know you wouldn't have done this by yourself. This cowherd with whom you are must have influenced you." Arjuna's anger flared up, and he said, "Yesterday, when you, a great warrior, joined many others to surround my son, a 17-year-old boy, and stab him from behind, where was your dharma? What are you talking about now?" Ashamed of the act that he had committed the day before, Burishwara put his head down. He went next to his chariot and sat down in lotus posture.

Satyaki became conscious again and looked around, completely bewildered. He did not know what had happened. When he saw Burishwara sitting there, his old emotions and rage took over. Burishwara's severed hand, still holding his sword, was lying there on the ground. Satyaki threw the hand away, picked up the sword, and went towards Burishwara. Both Krishna and Arjuna were screaming, "Stop! Don't do this, Satyaki!" But Satyaki loped off Burishwara's head, while the latter was sitting with eyes closed. Krishna put his head down; he had not wanted this. Arjuna was totally aghast about what Satyaki had done. But Satyaki was exalted, because he had been able to take revenge at last.

Day by day, as the war went on, all dharma was broken. The first day, they fought by the law. The second day, they started breaking the law, and by the fourteenth, fifteenth day, all law was broken. People did what they wanted and killed each other at will.

Arjuna slays Jayadrada.

Arjuna continued to penetrate towards Jayadrada, but it looked like Jayadrada was out of reach for him. The whole Kaurava army had rallied around to protect him. When Krishna saw that there was no way for Arjuna to defeat Jayadrada in this situation, he used his magic and made a huge cloud appear, so that it looked like it was sunset. Seeing this, Jayadrada was absolutely thrilled and relieved, because he thought the battle was over for the day, and he had survived, which meant Arjuna would die that day. The whole Kaurava army was exalted and shouted slogans of victory. Everyone had put their arms down. But the sun came back, and Arjuna shot Jayadrada and he fell. One more deception.

As if that was not enough, when Karna and Arjuna came to fight, Krishna interfered again. Karna and Arjuna were evenly matched in their martial arts. For everything that Arjuna did, Karna had an answer. But Karna had one special weapon, the astra, for which Arjuna had no answer. Karna aimed it at Arjuna's forehead, and was about to shoot and kill him. When Krishna saw this, once again using his magic, he made Arjuna's chariot sink a few inches into the earth. The weapon knocked off Arjuna's crown and made him faint for some time, but it did not enter his head as intended. Many times, Krishna did such things. This was much more than just deception.

Pandavas lose the game of dice, Draupadi is presented in the court.

What is the justification? It is not that his dharma is higher and someone else's is lower. What they were facing in the war was colossal evil. The level of injustice that Duryodhana, Shakuni, Karna, and all the others created from day one was too high, from the time they tried to murder Bhima by poisoning him, and by tying him up and putting him in the river. Then the game of dice, which was total cheating, and the disgrace of trying to disrobe Draupadi in public. Then trying to burn the Pandavas in the palace that was built of lac and sulfur, and again cheating them out of their kingdom. There was an endless number of events that led to this war. Everywhere, they used deceit without any qualms. When they were at an advantage, there was no dharma for them. When they were at a disadvantage, they were talking dharma as a tool to benefit from. But the next moment, they were the same again.

Krishna in Mahabharata says, "What they are doing is adharma; what we are doing is also adharma, but we are doing it with an intention of establishing dharma. They are doing it with the intention of establishing adharma." It is not a question of right and wrong. It is a question of purpose, and of whether you would be successful within the limitations of the law or not. He did not say what he was doing was right - he knew it was wrong. But what he was trying to achieve was right. That is why he did all this.


Link : http://blog.ishafoundation.org/sadhguru/masters-words/krishna-in-mahabharata/

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Posted: 11 years ago

A recent article on The Hindu Paper.. I know most of us are aware of this.. just felt like sharing it though 😛😳

Concern for Draupadi

Lord Krishna's concern for Draupadi stands out in the Mahabharata as an example of the Lord's concern for those who have unshakeable belief in Him, said Akkarakkani Srinidhi, in a discourse. Duryodhana, angered that the war was going against him, gave vent to his anger against Bhishma. He accused Bhishma of not fighting well, saying Bhishma did not want to hurt the Pandavas. In order to prove that he had not failed in his duty, Bhishma asked Duryodhana to send his wife Bhanumati to his (Bhishma's) tent. Bhishma had a plan to bless Bhanumati, after special prayers. His blessings would ensure that she would never be widowed.

Draupadi had a premonition that something unhappy awaited her. So she sought out Krishna, and expressed her fears to Him. Krishna, knowing of Bhishma's plan, stopped Bhanumati, and sent Draupadi in her place. Draupadi, in her hurry, forgot to wear her slippers, and Krishna, unable to bear the sight of thorns hurting her feet, gave her His slippers. Draupadi reached Bhishma's tent, and Bhishma, thinking Bhanumati had come, blessed her instead.

There was another occasion too when Krishna saved Draupadi. Sage Durvasa, famous for his anger, visited the Pandavas. Draupadi had a vessel, known as akshayapatra, which would go on giving a steady supply of rice. But once washed for the day, it would yield nothing until the next day. Draupadi had cleaned the vessel, when Durvasa arrived. Krishna helped her out. There was one small grain of rice left in the vessel. Krishna consumed it, and this caused the hunger of Durvasa and his followers to disappear.


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Posted: 11 years ago
Thanks Uma for sharing wonderful reads. I have always found Krishna as the most fascinating character in MB and I love reading anything on him. So thanks a lot for sharing 🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago

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and also the FB page" Saurabh Raj Jain the Superstar" has received over 100k+ likes!!🥳

As you said earlier,...he is truly the face of Lord Krishna. I honestly can't imagine anyone else ever playing the role!


really wow that makes it triple celebration...pooja's fb page too completed 100 k


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Hey Guyz i'm new to MB Forum i'm here only 4 our beloved krishna saurabh raj jain 😃

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