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guenhwyvar

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Posted: 11 years ago

#41

Originally posted by: debasree04
@shyam09...wonderful post 😃

I have one doubt - as far I know Rukmini is the incarnation of Goddess Lakshmi...is Radha also her incarnation?? 😕
And we generally see the idol of Radha-Krishna but not Krishna-Rukmini...why? 😕

there are temples dedicated to Rukmini-Dwarkadhish (mainly in Dwarka, but there is an ISKCON temple in Los Angeles).

But Srimati Radharani is the source of all the Lakshmis, who then expand to different incarnations such as Rukmini, Sita, etc. But Radharani is the original. Sort of like how Krishna is the original, and he expands into Balarama who expands into the first quadruple expansion (Vasudeva, Pradyumna, Aniruddha, Sankarshana) and Sankarshana expands into the second quadruple expansion. And Maha Sankarshana of the second quad. expansion expands into MahaVishu and then from MahaVishnu comes the planets, etc.

But this is from the Gaudiya Vaishnava Perspective.

Edited by shyam09 - 11 years ago

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Debasree

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Posted: 11 years ago

#42

Originally posted by: Krishna_Sourav
@Debashree
I heard Rukmini devi incarnation of Goddess Lakshmi where Radha is Incarnation of Sree
where another it's stated opposite
but both in some how connected with Lord vishnu n Goddess Lakshmi n Sree Radha

Thanx a lot 😊

Originally posted by: varaali

In Tamil Nadu it is more common to see Krishna with Rukmini and Satyabhama than with Radha.

In Pandharpur too, Vitthala is with Rakumai.

Thanx a lot 😊
I am from Kolkata & I never see any idol of Krishna with Rukmini and Satyabhama...thats why asked it...

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Debasree

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Posted: 11 years ago

#43

@shyam09...thanx once again for the info 😃

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guenhwyvar

@guenhwyvar

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Posted: 11 years ago

#44

Originally posted by: varaali

In Tamil Nadu it is more common to see Krishna with Rukmini and Satyabhama than with Radha.

In Pandharpur too, Vitthala is with Rakumai.

I'll have to remember to go visit those temples if I ever go back to South India... I don't remember visiting an Rukmini Krishna temples .. time to head back 😆

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Devashree

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Posted: 11 years ago

#45

Originally posted by: varaali

In Tamil Nadu it is more common to see Krishna with Rukmini and Satyabhama than with Radha.

In Pandharpur too, Vitthala is with Rakumai.

We have Vithoba/Rakhumai idol in our house mandir, but never got the connection that Vitthal is Krishna and Rakhumai is Rukmini.

Could you please explain about Pandharpur Vithoba, if you have any info about Him.

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varaali

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Posted: 11 years ago

#46

Originally posted by: devashree_h

We have Vithoba/Rakhumai idol in our house mandir, but never got the connection that Vitthal is Krishna and Rakhumai is Rukmini.

Could you please explain about Pandharpur Vithoba, if you have any info about Him.

Vithoba and Pandarpur are the nucleus around which the Varkari Sampradaya ( a kind of bhakri cult) revolves.

Though I am very tempted to write about the glory of Pandharpur and Vithala, I know if I start. I wont stop... and I am running short of time right now.

A brief introduction is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vithoba_Temple,_Pandharpur

You can also read about Sant Jnashewar, Tukaram and Namdev because they lived and breathed Vithala.

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varaali

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Posted: 11 years ago

#47

Rukmini's messenger reborn in Kali Yuga

Mahaswami Sri Vadiraja Tirtha

Saint Sri Vadiraja Tirtha was one of the foremost saints in the Madhava Sampradaya (A kind of Vaisnavite sect popular in South India) .He was born in 1480 and lived for 120 years, and consciously chose the time of departure from this world. He was a Sanskrit scholar of great merit and has left behind several outstanding works.

SO why am I talking about him???

Because traditionally it has been believed that Sri Vadiraja in his previous birth was the same messenger who took Rukmini's message to Lord Krishna. When after the marraige, the brahman was enjoying the yugal darshan, the happy couple blessed him by saying that in Kali yuga, he would be revered as one foremost Vaishnavite saints.

Incidentally, his magnum opus is entitled "Rukminisha Vijayam... (The Greatness of the Lord of Rukmini)."

For more info http://shivallibrahmins.com/great-acharyas/sri-sri-vadiraja-teertharu/

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Devashree

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Posted: 11 years ago

#48

Originally posted by: varaali

Vithoba and Pandarpur are the nucleus around which the Varkari Sampradaya ( a kind of bhakri cult) revolves.

Though I am very tempted to write about the glory of Pandharpur and Vithala, I know if I start. I wont stop... and I am running short of time right now.

A brief introduction is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vithoba_Temple,_Pandharpur

You can also read about Sant Jnashewar, Tukaram and Namdev because they lived and breathed Vithala.

This is what, I know a lot about Sant jnaneshwar, Sant Tukaram and Sant Namdev. I tend to sing a lot of Vithoba bhajans because I have grown up with them. I knew he was Vishnu, but I dont know why I never made his connection with Krishna.😳

From the link you provided, The Lord responds to true and utter devotion

Pundalik does something strange but out of real devotion. He throws a brick outside for God to stand on and wait for him until he finishes attending to his parents.

Thanks a lot!!

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varaali

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Posted: 11 years ago

#49

What exactly was Krishna's weight?

Contrary to popular belief, The Tulabharam incident didn't come out of wifely rivalry. All it did was to show that only Rukmni understood the inherent divinity of Krishna.

When Narada came to Satyabahma seeking alms, she asked him could he ensure that she obtained Krishna as her husband birth after birth. Narada, ever ready for mischief, replied whatever one donates as alms to a Brahmin, comes back to the giver manifold. He suggested that she offer Krishna as 'alms' to him. Without thinking, Satyabhama pulls Krishna out and after pouring a drop of water on His hands, places His hands on Narada's as if giving bhiksha. Done.

Narada pulls his trump card out and announces that she will now get Krishna only in her next birth, for now, He is his(Narad's) slave as she has donated Him. As if to prove his words, Narada begins to drag Krishna out. Realization now dawns on Satyabhama. She tries to catch hold of Narada's feet imploring him to suggest a way out.

Narada pretends to think and suggests that if she were to offer a quantity of gold equal to that of Krishna's body weight, she may obtain Him back. Satyabhama heaves a sigh of relief. What follows is well known.

Krishna is made to sit on one side of a Balance (Tula) while Satyabhama tries to pile gold after gold on the other side of the scale

Not all of Satyabhama's gold or the gold of all the other queens can equal the scale. All the queens are distraught- except Rukmini. She too was quietly enjoying the fun.

When Narada asked Satyabhama to approach Rukmini for help, Rukmini plucked a Tulsi Leaf and after first offering it at Krishna's feet, she placed it on the other side of the scale with the words

"astu ambujaksa mama te charana anuraga" (May I be blessed with steady devotion to your lotus feet)

Edited by varaali - 11 years ago