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Sabhayata

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Posted: 11 years ago

Hello Folks!😛😛

A warm welcome to you all.🤗

There has been much debate on this forum about who is Panchali's Pati No. 1. Who of the Pandavas loved her the most. This post will not answer that question for you.😆 Draupadi does not appear to have kept tally..😕.alternately, Rishi Veda Vyas had more important details to note then who got what flowers for Mahabharat's Yagaseni.😆😆 So while many may acclaim Bheem to be Pati No. 1 without a full record and analysis of the Pandavas marriage to Panchali 👎🏼we cannot really assess who was truly PANCHALI'S PATI NO.1. But, friends let us not lose heart. 😳While we cannot judge history, which remains a mystery, we can TRACK THE PRESENT and have our own analysis.👍🏼So,presenting to you all:😎

Starbharat Paanchaali

Key Points of This Analysis

1.We will keep a running tally of the care, concern, connection each of the Pandava Princes express for their Patni Panchali in StarBharat. 😳

2.We will try to score the candidates objectively. For further details please see post 2. 🤓

3.We welcome your post episode input daily on which princes should be awarded points and why. 👍🏼

4.The score for the most recent episode will be updated in the 3rd post along with rationales.⭐️

5.Progress Graph: Shyam09 will chart the progress of the princes in post 5 and post updates on an weekly basis at the end of the week. 😉

6.PATI of the Week: ...Poojie... assess this weekly on Sundays. Please check 4th post for details. 😛

7.Awards for the Pati Of The Week: Abhishek_King will provide banners for the POWs.Shyam09 will provide trophies for them. Special Icons or Avis will also be there too.😊😊

8.Standout Performer Of The Week: ...Poojie... assess this also weekly on Sundays. Shyam09 generally makes gifs on the scenes of SOWs.😳😳

State of Competition Now:

Pandava Princes
Total to Date
Daily Score
Updated Total
1. Yuddhi
199.22

0

199.22

2. Bheem
204.47

0
204.47

3. Arjun
209.79

0

209.79

4. Nakul
93.99
0

93.99

5. Sahadev
64.48
0

64.48

Scores for first week: Y=10.96, B=9.46, A=11.96, N=2.80, S=2.80
Scores for 2nd week: Y=25.72, B=17.72, A=15.72, N=5.90, S=5.40
Scores for 3rd week:: Y=29.42, B=18.42, A=19.42, N=7.10, S=9.60
Scores for 4th week: Y=45.92, B=26.92, A=33.42, N=7.10, S=10.60
Scores for 5th week: Y=52.16, B=30.16, A=47.41, N=7.35, S=10.85
Scores for 6th week: Y=78.36, B=32.89, A=40.61, N=10.08, S=13.88
Pre-Stake on April 3/14: Y=76.11, B=43.14, A=47.86, N=16.18, S=15.98
Scores for 7th week: Y=73.00, B=54.34, A=48.77, N=11.33, S=14.03
Pre-VH on April 8/14: Y=70.72, B=52.58, A=49.01, N=5.51, S=8.21
Scores for 8th week: Y=90.44, B=67.02, A=70.27, N=14.35, S=15.34
Scores for 9th week: Y=139.38, B=107.87, A=109.33, N=50.69, S=34.82
Scores for 10th week: Y=162.02, B=161.09, A=178.27, N=65.96, S=48.90
Scores for 11th week: Y=174.36, B=169.63, A=165.86, N=69.06, S=51.75
Scores for 12th week: Y=178.69, B=173.26, A=181.59, N=74.72, S=55.08

Scores for 13th week: Y=178.69, B=173.26, A=181.59, N=74.72, S=55.08
Scores for 14th week: Y=183.25, B=178.77, A=193.10, N=75.67, S=56.03
Scores for 15th week: Y=188.11, B=188.83, A=200.46, N=78.67, S=59.53
Scores for 16th week: Y=187.655, B=189.075, A=200.61, N=85.515, S=63.75
cores for 17th week: Y=188.755, B=191.175, A=201.71, N=88.115, S=64.85
Scores for 18th week: Y=195.01, B=207.51, A=205.71, N=89.87, S=65.85
cores for 19th week: Y=199.22, B=204.47, A=209.79, N=93.99, S=64.48

Rules:
1.This is a fun post - hopefully your sentiments are strong enough survive some lighthearted humor.😆😆

2.So, if you want to argue why your favorite prince should get more points or another less then please press your case. Unlike King Dhrit we promise to hear first judge later.😉

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Sabhayata

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Posted: 11 years ago

Positive Pati Points 1. Care n Concern: if a prince expresses care or concern for Panchali he will earn a point. This includes things like asking her opinion, holding her hand on rough geographic terrain, helping her down from chariots, etc. The expression need not be verbal - looks of concern will be valued.

2. Communication n Connectivity: Princes will also be awarded a point for maintaining communication with Princess Panchali - be it verbal or non-verbal (i.e. eye locks, nods, etc.).

3. Honour: Each prince will earn a point for defending their Panchali's honour either verbally or in deed (i.e. killing/punishing those who have insulted her).

4. Gifting: Princes will earn points for gifts.

5. Make Up: Princes will be also be awarded point for efforts they make to sooth Panchali's hurt feelings when she is upset or mad.

6. Mark Sharing: If an act is shared by more than one prince then the point - i.e. giving Draupadi adhikaar to go to Bhisma or gathering firewood then the marks will be split by the princes involved.

7.Objections:Any objections to the scoring of a particular episode must be raised before the next episode is aired

Negative Marks
1.Staking the Princess

2.Not objecting to her being staked

3.Marrying another Princess post marriage to Panchali*

4.Bringing home another Princess post marriage

5.Romantic moments with other Princesses**

6.Violating vows to her

Peace negotiation scoring scheme

1. Here Negative Marking should be reserved for disagreeing with Panchali. What is disagreement? Deciding to do opposite of whatever she wants.

2. The exception to above should be that if she wants peace and is sacrificing her wish for justice and Pandav don't agree with her. Then they should not be negatively marked. Why? Because they remain true to her cause of justice.

Application:

1. P wants peace & Pandav want war ==> Positive

2. P wants war & Pandav want peace ==> Negative

*Please note - negative points will be awarded for other wives only if they are specifically shown or mentioned in StarBharat.

**Children symbolize a romantic moment with mom, so any children with another wife post-Panchali will be a negative point.

***Loving children will never ever garner any pati negative points.

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Sabhayata

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Posted: 11 years ago

Scoring 28^th jun 2014	y	b	a	n	s
1)Bheeshm asks pandavs to kill him for the first time,panadavs hesitate	-.40	-.40	-.40	-.40	-.40
2)Bheeshm exclusively addresses bhima to fight with him but bhima doesnt		-2
3)Bheeshm asks pandavs to fight with him for the second time .Bhima hesiatate and says they cant.Yudi and arjuna also hesitate.Nakula nd sahdev not shown	-1	-2	-1
4)Bheeshm asks nakul and sahdev to come and fight with him and sahdev refuses					-2.
5)3rd time bheehsma asks pandvas to attack him they again don't	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4
6)Bheeshma asks arjuna to come and fight with him arjuna hesitates			-2.
7)4th time bheeshma asks pandavs to attack him but pandavs don't	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4
8)panadavs finally attack bheeshma	0.50	0.50	0.50	0.50	0.50
9)bheeshma then for the 5th time asks pandvas to attack him with the mace they don't	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4
10)Yudi and arjuna fight with bheeshma	0.50		0.50
11)Nakula and sahdev fight with bheeshma				0.50	0.50
12)Pitamah then again asks bheem to attack him but bheem doesn't		-2.
13)13)Bheem finally attacks pitamah and even makes him fall hence .5 extra		1
14)pandvas fight with pitamah with a sword(B and A get .5 extra each for being more aggressive)	0.50	1	1	0.50	0.50
Total	-1.1	-5.1	-2.6	-0.1	-2.1

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Pooja Menon

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Posted: 11 years ago

~~~~~PATI OF THE WEEK~~~~~

~~WINNER~~

Week 19 - PATI OF THE WEEK - PRINCE NAKUL

Scores for the week:

Yudi - (199.22 - 195.01) = 4.21

Bheem - (204.47 - 207.51) = (-3.11)

Arjun - (209.79 - 205.71) = 4.08

Nakul - (93.99 - 89.865) = 4.125

Sahadev - (64.48 - 65.85) = (-1.37)

Growth:

Yudi - ((199.22 - 195.01)/195.01) = 0.022

Bheem - ((204.47 - 207.51) /207.51) = (-0.015)

Arjun - ((209.79 - 205.71)/205.71) = 0.02

Nakul - ((93.99 - 89.865)/89.865) = 0.046

Sahadev - ((64.48 - 65.85)/65.85) = (-0.02)

Ranking: Nakul = 5, Yudi = 4, Arjun = 3, Bheem = 2, Sahadev= 1

Standout Performance: NO WINNER

Yudi = 4.21(0.45) + 4(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 3.7

Bheem = (-3.11)(0.45) + 2(0.45) + 0(0.1) = (-0.5)

Arjun = 4.08(0.45) + 3(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 3.186

Nakul = 4.125(0.45) + 5(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 4.11

Sahadev = (-1.37)(0.45) + 1(0.45) + 0(0.1) = (-0.17)

Hence Nakul is the winner!! 😊

Credit for the trophy: Shyam09

Credit for the gifs: chippedcupofchai/tumblr

Credit for the banner: Abhishek_King

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Pooja Menon

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Posted: 11 years ago

~~~~~PATI OF THE WEEK~~~~~
~~~~CALCULATIONS FOR THE PATI OF THE WEEK~~~~

PATI OF THE WEEK = HIGHEST POINTS + BEST GROWTH OVER THE WEEK + STANDOUT PERFORMANCE

Weightage: 45% (Highest points) + 45% (Best Growth) + 10% (Standout Performance)

For calculating Highest points, we will multiply each candidate's points by 0.45 (45%). From week 3 onwards, we would only be factoring the weekly performance and not the total till date. So highest points = This week's score - last week's score.

For calculating Best Growth, we will be ranking them, for. eg. if Nakul grew the most he gets 5, Sahadev next so he gets 4..etc. We will then multiply the rank number by 0.45 (45%). To calculate the best growth, we will be using this equation =( (This week's total - Last week's total)/ Last week's total)

For calculating standout performance, the one chosen candidate will be earn fixed 10 points which when multiplied by 0.1 (10%) will get him an extra 1 point.

Adding these three figures will get us the grand total and the one with the highest figure is the winner. 😊

Example: Credit goes to Anjana

Hypothetical situation

Scores for the week: Arjun 10 pts, Nakul 8, Bheem 6

Standout performance: Bheem gets 10 pts

Growth = if Nakul grew most he is given 5, Arjun 2, Bheem 1

Arjuna = 10(.45) + 2 X.45 + 0 (0.10) = 5.4

Nakul= 8 (.45) + 5 X 0.45 +0 (0.10) = 5.85

Bheem= 6 (.45)+ 1 X 0.45 + 10(0.10) = 4.15

So, winner is Nakul!

~~WINNERS~~
Please check the calculations for each week on the respective Pg Nos.

Week 1 - PATI OF THE WEEK- PRINCE ARJUN (Pg 13)

Week 2 - PATI OF THE WEEK- CROWN PRINCE YUDHISTHIR (Pg 41)

Week 3 - PATI OF THE WEEK - PRINCE SAHADEV(Pg 61)

Week 4 - PATI OF THE WEEK - KING YUDHISTHIR (Pg 101)

Week 5 - PATI OF THE WEEK - PRINCE ARJUN (Pg 132)

The Pg Nos till Week 5 corresponds to this thread:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/mahabharat/3926703/starbharat-panchalis-patiyogita-p-142-yuddhi-10-ahead

Week 6 - PATI OF THE WEEK - EMPEROR YUDHISTHIR (Pg 31)

Week 7 - PATI OF THE WEEK- DAAS BHEEM (Pg 112)

The Pg Nos of Week 6-7 corresponds to this thread:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/mahabharat/3962172/starpanchalis-patiyogita-p142-pre-vastra-haran-tally

Week 8 - PATI OF THE WEEK- PRINCE ARJUN (Pg 39)

Week 9 - PATI OF THE WEEK - PRINCE YUDHISTHIR (Pg 132)

The Pg Nos of Week 8-9 corresponds to this thread:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/mahabharat/3980069/starpanchalis-patiyogita-p-130-news-p-132-n-is-sow-n-y-da-pow

Week 10 - PATI OF THE WEEK - PRINCE ARJUN (Pg 90)

Week 11 - PATI OF THE WEEK - EMPEROR YUDHISTHIR (Pg 133)

The Pg Nos of Week 10-11 corresponds to this thread:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/mahabharat/3993422/starpaanchaalis-pratiyogita-p-144-patis-meet-the-panchali-putras

Week 12 - PATI OF THE WEEK- PRINCE ARJUN (Pg 8)

Week 13 - PATI OF THE WEEK - NO WINNER (Pg 15)

Week 14 - PATI OF THE WEEK- PRINCE ARJUN (Pg 28)

Week 15 - PATI OF THE WEEK- CROWN PRINCE BHEEM (Pg 52)

Week 16 - PATI OF THE WEEK- PRINCE NAKUL (Pg 80)

Week 17 - PATI OF THE WEEK- PRINCE NAKUL (Pg 92)

Week 18 - PATI OF THE WEEK- CROWN PRINCE BHEEM (Pg 110)

Week 19 - PATI OF THE WEEK- PRINCE NAKUL (Pg 128)

STANDOUT PERFORMANCE OF THE WEEK

~~~WINNERS~~~

Week 1 - PRINCE ARJUN: Arjun earns 10 points especially for taking out the dhanush and taking the pran for Draupadi's honour.

Week 2 - PRINCE BHEEM: Bheem earns 10 points for his standout performance in consoling a crying draupadi and killing the snake who was about to attack Draupadi.

Week 3 - PRINCE SAHADEV: Sahadev earns 10 extra points for being considerate towards the oath taken for Panchali (and for his favourite word being Panchali since he uses it a lot😛😉).

Week 4 - PRINCE BHEEM: Bheem earns 10 points for his sweet ladoo moment for Draupadi.

Week 5 - PRINCE ARJUN: Arjun earns 10 points for his intense eyelock with Draupadi when she welcomes him with Subhadra

Week 6 - EMPEROR YUDHISTHIR: Yudi earns 10 points for his conversation with Panchali at the dice hall stage.

Week 7 - DAAS BHEEM: Bheem earns 10 points for his pran of breaking Dushasan's hands for dragging Panchali by her hair

Week 8 - PRINCE ARJUN: Arjun earns 10 points for calming down Draupadi's Mahakali roop and giving Pandavas a chance to avenge Panchali's insult.

Week 9 - PRINCE NAKUL: Nakul earns 10 points for his raksha duty wherein he was reluctant to leave Panchali alone even after knowing that Yudi could be in danger. Also inviting Panchali to have lunch with them.

Week 10 - PRINCE ARJUN: Arjun gets 10 points for his conversation with Panchali and consoling her.

Week 11 - PRINCE BHEEM: Bheem gets 10 points for not forgetting about Panchali's insults when Yudi says to let go of everything and going back to forest.

Week 12 - PRINCE ARJUN: Arjun knowing exactly what Panchali was asking from Abhimanyu and his proud look at P when blessing Abhimanyu.

Week 13 - NO WINNER

Week 14 - PRINCE ARJUN: Arjun earns 10 points for being pro war for Panchali's insult and speaking up for her.

Week 15 - NO WINNER

Week 16 - PRINCE NAKUL: Nakul earns 10 points for being reluctant to heal Karna and remembering that he (Karna) has tried to strip to Panchali.

Week 17 - NO WINNER

Week 18 - CROWN PRINCE BHEEM: Bheem earns 10 points for remembering Panchali's insults while fighting Duryodhan and aiming to kill him.

Week 19 - NO WINNER

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guenhwyvar

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Posted: 11 years ago

Dharma-Ke-Pratik: Yuddhistira

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Vrikodhara: Bhimasen

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Gandeeva Dhari: Arjunnaaa

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The Handsome and Dashing: Nakula

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Phoorvabhasing Pati: Sahadeva

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Sabhi Pratiyogitas Overall (updated/replaced weekly)

Link to Google Drive Spreadsheet Page!

Eeny, meeny, miny, moe...

catch a pati by the toe...

if he hollers let 'em go ...

my Draupadi says to pick the very best one and ...

Nakul is it!!!

🤣

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AnjanaYYZ

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Posted: 11 years ago

War Scheme - VOTE ASAP:

Option A: DDS deaths - 10 pts each, Karna 7pts, Bhishma & Drona deaths (3pts to all pati participants - meaning no split points), 98 Kaurav - 10pts, Pran fulfillments (2pts extra per pran), extra pt 1 for any flashback recalls of Panchali during fights, negative 2 marks for any hesitation

Option B: DDSK deaths - 5 pts each, Karna 4 pts, Bhishma & Drona deaths (3pts to all pati participants - split points if task shared with another pati or individual), 98 Kaurav - 5pts + 1 pt per any actually shown, Pran fulfillments (2pts extra per pran), extra pt 1 for any flashback recalls of Panchali during fights, negative 1 marks for any hesitation
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*Hesitation - exemption for Geeta Gyaan
** Sabhayata gave good logic that Karna was not as evil in StarBharat as in original.

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Nripendra

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Posted: 11 years ago

Dharmaraja Yuddhisthira

Balshaali Bheem

Mahanayak Arjuna

Saundaryavaan Nakula

Poorvabhaasi Sahadeva

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Sabhayata

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Posted: 11 years ago

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pg 146

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - June 30 (No negatives for crying)
1	1	3	1	1	Since YBNS shot only 1 arrow, giving them 3 points is bit unfair to Arjun. Hence will give 1 point each to YBNS and 3 points to Arjun. (Objections welcome)
		(-1)			Arjun says yeh kaisa dushkaram hai yeh. Kasi niyati hai hai. Narak ke dwaar khol diye.Maine apne poorvaju ka druh kiya, vansh ka ghat kiya, sanskaaroon ka vadh kiya. Yeh karne se poorv meri bhujayein kyu nahin toot gayi, meri bhujayein kyu nahin toot gayi...mere nyatre kyu nahin chale gaye. (-1) - (Objections welcome)
					Arjun says no when Pitamah says that this deepak must be bhujofied. (No marking)
					Yudi says your life is not nyvrut. Mujhe aapke marg-darshan ki aveshakta hai. We all need your guidance. (No negative marking)
	-0.5				Bheem says with you alive, our childhood was alive. With you gone, all our laughter is gone. Our heart and minds will now be consumed of worldly worries.It is our selfish needs, that we can't let you go.(-0.5)
			-1		Nakul says..our divine medicines will heal Bheeshma before sunrise. We should take him to the camp.
		-0.5			Arjun says now you have fulfilled all your prans, you even surrendered yourselves. Now there is no bandhan, why do you want to sacrifice your life? (-0.5)
					Bheem stopping Dury from attacking Arjun - Need to see the whole scene. Might award it accordingly in tomorrow's episode.

1	0.5	1.5	0	1	Total Tally

pg127

Scoring 28^th jun 2014	y	b	a	n	s
1)Bheeshm asks pandavs to kill him for the first time,panadavs hesitate	-.40	-.40	-.40	-.40	-.40
2)Bheeshm exclusively addresses bhima to fight with him but bhima doesnt		-2
3)Bheeshm asks pandavs to fight with him for the second time .Bhima hesiatate and says they cant.Yudi and arjuna also hesitate.Nakula nd sahdev not shown	-1	-2	-1
4)Bheeshm asks nakul and sahdev to come and fight with him and sahdev refuses					-2.
5)3rd time bheehsma asks pandvas to attack him they again don't	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4
6)Bheeshma asks arjuna to come and fight with him arjuna hesitates			-2.
7)4th time bheeshma asks pandavs to attack him but pandavs don't	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4
8)panadavs finally attack bheeshma	0.50	0.50	0.50	0.50	0.50
9)bheeshma then for the 5th time asks pandvas to attack him with the mace they don't	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4	-0.4
10)Yudi and arjuna fight with bheeshma	0.50		0.50
11)Nakula and sahdev fight with bheeshma				0.50	0.50
12)Pitamah then again asks bheem to attack him but bheem doesn't		-2.
13)13)Bheem finally attacks pitamah and even makes him fall hence .5 extra		1
14)pandvas fight with pitamah with a sword(B and A get .5 extra each for being more aggressive)	0.50	1	1	0.50	0.50
Total	-1.1	-5.1	-2.6	-0.1	-2.1

pg120

Grading 27th jun 2014	Y	B	A	N	S
1)Arjuna-for accepting drona's challenge for a duel			0.5

2)Arjuna-for his duel with drona			0.5

3)Nakula-for saving draupadi's jiji				1

4)Nakul-for challenging ashwathama				0.5

5)nakul-for his duel with ashwathama				0.5

6)Yudi-for saving draupadi's jiji	1

7)Yudi- for challenging dusashan	0.5

8)Yudi-for his duel with dusashan	0.5

Total	2	0	1	2	0

pg120

Grading for 26th Jun 2014	Y	B	A	N	S
1)For bringing panchali with them when they go to talk with Bheeshma	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2

2)for saying who will teach us how to run a state,who will take our test and who will determine what is dharma on this battlefield(because it shows they are still reluctant to kill pitamah)	-0.5	-0.5	-0.5

3)cutting no marks for crying because they are ready to kill pitamah but obviously since he is their grandfather they are feeling bad about it

4)Yudi and draupadi eyelock	1

5)Arjuna and Draupadi eyelock			1

6)all stop when Bheeshma asks draupadi to wait(Y,B and A geta extra because of one extra shot each)	0.53	0.53	0.53	0.2	0.2

7)Yudi and Nakul watch drauapdi proceeding to do shikhandi's tilak(other's are not in the first shot)	0.5			0.5

8)All look as draupadi starts to do tilak	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2

9)Yudi and nakul see as panchali blesses shikhandi(other's are not in the shot)	0.5			0.5

Total	2.4	0.4	1.4	1.6	0.6

pg116

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - June 25
0.5		0.5			Panchali says Jiji has to come back to the war-field after her tapasya. Arjun and Yudi look at her.
					Sahadev was discussing about the dangers of Bheeshma. No points though.
	0.5				Bheem talking about Bheeshma to Panchali. 1 point for addressing to Panchali but since he is praising Bheeshma it will be 1-0.5 = 0.5
		2			Arjun looking at P while P is talking to dhrist. (2 shots)
-0.5					Yudi talking about Bheeshma
0	0.5	2.5	0	0	Total Tally

pg 112
June 23rd

Y B A N S

1)Arjuna says from now on our aim is to kill .125 .125 .5 .125 .125
Bheeshma and YBNS give determined looks

2)Nakul and Bheeshma duel .5

3)Bhima and Bheeshma duel .5

4)Arjuna and Bheeshma duel .5

5)yudi bheeshma duel .5

6)Bhima says soon we will have to kill .25 .5 .25
pitamah and Y and A give determined
looks

7)Arjuna challenges bheeshma to a duel .5

total .875 1.125 1.75 .625 .125

pg 109

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - June 21
-0.50		-0.5			K says its necessary to kill all who prevent us from killing D's sons. Arjun says it may not be necessary to kill Pitamah cuz he didn't kill Big Bro (Y nods) and wants us to win. Arjuna for the statement which suggests he has forgotten his pran to kill mute witnesses. (-1/2) Not sure if Y is agreeing with entire statement or that Bhishma sparring him. (So objections welcome)
		-0.5			Arjun says its not necessary to kill Pitamah unless he becomes an obstacle to them killing Kaurav
					BNS reaction unclear to me.


-0.5	0	-1	0	0	Total Tally

pg 107

Y	B	A	N	S	Final Grading Analysis - June 20
	1.5				Bheem-Dury talks in between fight(0.5) and the fight (1).
0.5					Yudi fights with Bheeshma.
			1		Nakul challenges Dushy and fights with him.
				0.5	Sahadev fights with shakuni
0.5					Yudi says I am always samarpit towards you (-0.5) but in this fight I will try to defeat you (0.5). Yudi says will Duryodhan be alive till then? (0.5)
	1				Bheem-Dury 2nd fight after Bheem gets up
	3				Bheem says remember my pran.You ordered Drau's vastraharan from this very mouth. First I will break your mouth and then your head.
	5				Bheem remembers Panchali VH flashbacks - for remembering the 3 insults said by Dury. He also remembers her being dragged (1) then tossed onto the center for VH (1)
	0.5				Bheem aims to kill Dury.
1.5					Yudi is ready to die and finish war if that means Dury is also going to be killed. He allows Bheem to kill Dury and let Bheeshma kill himself. Yudi orders Bheem to kill Dury. (Points split...)
	0				Bheem doesn't kill Dury. - No negative marking. I am letting him go this time. Even Panchali would have forgave him.
0.5					Yudi is angry at Bheem not killing Dury.
	0.83				Bheem says his dharam, brothers and family are his strength (Family includes Panchali ..hence point split into 3 = 0.33). The day he will be against that strength ..it will be Dury's last day. (0.5)
-0.5					Yudi agrees he didn't use his full potential against Bheeshma.
	-0.5				Bheem says we wouldn't be able to attack Bheeshma as his body is pure.
		0.5			Arjun fights Drona - this is 2nd fight after arjun stops him at the end of yesterday's fight 😊
2.5	11.33	0.5	1	0.5	Total Tally

pg 100

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - June 19
		0.5			Arjun suggests to attack Ashwathama to get Drona away from Duryodhan.
			0.25	0.25	NakSah's involvement in getting Bheem to Dury.
		1			Drupad was struggling and arjun came at the right time.
		1			Arjun challenges Ashwathama (0.5) and fights him (0.5).
(-0.5)					Yudi praises Bheeshma 🥱 (-0.5)
0.5					Yudi Challenges Bheeshma
	0.5				Bheem's first challenge to Dury.
		0.5			Arjun fights with Drona.
	0.5				Bheem's 2nd challenge to Dury.
		0.5			Arjun stops Drona from leaving.
	1.5				Bheem's 3rd challenge (0.5). He calls Dury napunsak 2 times. (1)


0	2.5	3.5	0.25	0.25	Total Tally

Pg99

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - June 18
					Ermm.. I am not going to give negative marking to Ps reluctance when Krishna tells them to do chal coz Krishna convinces them eventually. (They were not against war.. but just against the idea of doing chal)..
			0.5		Nakul fights with Ashwathama.
					Krishna's 5 steps to take Bhishma out of war field. Since P's are only doing the execution, they will only receive half points.
		0.25			Arjun's fires the astra to make everything cloudy.
0					Yudi's intial reluctance (-0.25) and then he leaves for Hastinapur with one set of army (0.25).
	0.75				Bheem calls Dushy gadha (0.5) and goes off to inform him (0.25).
	1				Bheem challenges Dury about the strength of his arms (1 point coz it is his pran to break those arms which has touched Panchal's hairs)
	0.5				Bheem-Dushy fight (0.5)

0	2.25	0.25	0.5	0	Total Tally

pg96

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - June 17 (War for kingdom and Panchali hence split points)
					We can't say where the 5 Ps are looking when they come with Uttar's body.
0.25	0.25	0.25		0.25	YBAS looking down out of guilt when P looks at them after seeing Uttar's body.
0.5					Yudi says tomorrow before sunset we will capture Duryodhan.
		0.5			Arjun says tomorrow I will challenge Bhishma.

0.75	0.25	0.75	0	0.25	Total Tally

pg 96

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - June 16 Draft 2
3.5					Yudi challenges DDK and fights with them. 0.5 for challenge and 3 points for fighting with DDS. Full point awarded for the intensity of the fight.

3.5					Total Tally

pg92

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - June 14 (War for kingdom and Panchali hence split points)
1			1		Nakul says on the east is Panchali-putra. Yudi orders Bheem to help panchali-putra fight with Ashwathama.
	2				Bheem saves Prativindhya. (1) Bheem challenges Ashwathama (0.5) and fights with him (0.5).
		1			Arjun saves Drupad (1). Arjun-Drona mutual respect (-0.5) and fight (0.5)
			1.5		Nakul remembers Bheem's pran (0.5) but still challenges (0.5) and fights with Vikarna (0.5).

1	2	1	2.5	0	Total Tally

pg 91

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - June 13 (Split points for war unless Panchali is especially mentioned/remembered)
				1	Sahadev challenges Shakuni (0.5) and fights with him (0.5)
		0			Arjun says I was waiting for Bhishma's blessings (-0.5)..now I can fight with him (0.5) = 0.
0.1	0.1	0.1	0.1	0.1	YBANS all moving towards Kaurav side to attack Bhishma/Duryodhan.

0.1	0.1	0.1	0.1	1.1	Total Tally

pg 77

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - June 7 (War for kingdom and Panchali hence split points)
-1					Yudi agrees to surrender if Bhishma says so.
-0.2	-0.2	-0.3	-0.2	-0.2	YBANS are taken aback when Bhishma blesses them to kill all their enemies (-0.1). Bhishma tells them to kill him, pandavas not happy (-0.1 each) Arjun has 2 shots here.
-0.3	-0.1	-0.2	-0.1	-0.1	Bheeshma blesses them. Pandavas are still in shock (-0.1) Yudi has 3 shots and joins hands. Arjun has an extra shot too.
0.5					Yudi finally gets determined for war and looks at all of them in anger.
					I am counting right after Sanjay gets divine sight as the beginning of geeta. Hence Arjun will not be deducted any points.

-1	-0.3	-0.5	-0.3	-0.3	Total Tally

pg 77

Y	B	A	N	S	June 6^th 2014 - Final Grade
		-0.5			Arjuna had the slightest of smiles then he recalled what Krishna said about the necessity of killing Bhisma. He didn't appear stoic or determined, but disturbed. Hence classifying as reluctance. (1/2 * -1)
		1			Arjuna gave Panchali a once over look while she was feeding Upapandav & other Pandav
0.25	0.25	0.25	0.25		YBAN look at Panchali when they arrive for Pooja. S seems MIA
		1			AP eyelock awareness during Kal Bhairav Pooja
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS look at Panchali while she is blessing Upapandav
					Its unclear who Pandav (at least YBA were looking at once Uttar started speaking - they could have been looking at Uttar or Panchali. No marks.
					Yudhi asks for "yudh ki agyaa" (+1)...but, then later asks for either agyaa or sastra tag (negative). All in all its NIL

0.45	0.45	1.95	0.45	0.20	Total Tally

pg 74

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - June 4
.375	.375		0.125	0.625	Sah questions how the circumstances are different such that they should assist Karna. (1/2) YB give questioning looks. (1/2/2) YBNS look at Kunti as she continues to stammer...(1/2/4)
		1			Arjun walking in with Panchali. It appears he has told her about Angaraj's kavach daan since she doesn't give shocked look as he explains Karna has given kavach ki daan. Pandav are shocked. Based on reaction (hers vs. other Pandav) it would appear she already knew. Only Arya A could have told her. No point for joint entry & walk as we don't know how they ended up together (neutral) and if both were coming to same place or out for a walk together, etc. (possible positive)
		-1.5			A says Karna has given greatest test of daan (-1/2). He has given daan of himself - of his kavach. This is factual statement, but Arjuna's tone and emphasis suggests he is impressed. (-1/2). Arjun saying aise mahan yoddha ki mrutyu rann bhoomi mein he hona chahiye not in a treatment room. (-1/2). Don't know what to make of other 4 Pandav's reaction to this news...they are shocked, but not sympathetic. So no positive or negative.
0.2	0.2	1	0.2	0.2	Panchali says the fortune of killing him will go to Arjun. YBNS look at her. A-P eyelock.
			1		Nakul-P eyelock when P says karna will not be punished for his adharm if he dies doing dharm.
-0.5				0.125	Yuddhi says Kunti is correct and orders NakSah to help Karna.(-1/2). Firstly, he is agreeing with Kunti not Panchali & 2ndly he is diverting them from going to greet Shalya - something that costs them an ally in the war. Sah questions that they are supposed to go meet Shalya. NakSah appear to reluctantly agree to help Karna. No deduction as they don't appear happy about this.
					NakSah help Karna, but they don't seem at all happy about it. Neutral.
			1	0.5	Nakul says our medicines won't affect our enemies any more. NS throws the bowl down.
			1.5	1	Nakul says we will soon salute your dead body. Angry shots of NS(2 shots = 1 point)
			0.25	1.25	Sah gives dirty look at Karna - when he says its unsafe for Kunti to remain in enemy camp as they cannot be trusted. (1/2) NS give him dirty looks (2 S n 1 N) (S=0.5/2+.50) (N=0.25)
			0.5	0.5	NS give Karna two more dirty looks before leaving (0.5/2 *2)
					Not awarding any points to Nakul for his pran to kill Shalya. Nothing to do with Panchali. No points to Sahadev for vow to kill Shakuni - again nothing to do with Panchali. .
-0.1	-0.1	-0.3	-0.1	-0.1	YBANS shocked face when Krishna says it is impt to think of a way to kill Bheeshma. A gives three shots (0.2/2 * 3)
		-0.5			Arjun says Pitamah's death.. but...
-0.5	-0.5	-1.5	-0.4	-0.4	YBANS reluctantly agree. At least 2 longshots of all Pandav (0.2/22); 14 Shots of Arjuna (0.2/2 14); YB (4 Shots = 02./2 4); NS (3 Shots 0.2/2 3); *I could have been harsher by not making all of the shocked reactions of Pandav split points, but didn't want to be 2 mean.

-0.525	-0.025	-1.8	4.08	3.70	Total Tally

pg 57

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - June 3 (Point split since the anger towards Karna is for panchali and for themselves too)
0.125	0.125		0.125	0.125	YBANS angry look when Kunti mentions Karna ki maata.
			0.5		N's don't care look when Kunti says Karna is in pain. Sahdev's expression was not convincing enough 😕 Yudi asks what pain, maata? (Objections welcome)
			1	0.5	NS's don't care look when Kunti says if Karna doesn't get the miracle medicines from them fast, then there is no relief to his pain. (N was convincing in two shots, while S was convincing in only 1 shot) Not awarding Yudi points here - he is not reacting either ways much 😕
			1		N saying had Karna had sympathy in his heart, then your DIL won't have been stripped in the dyut sabha.
0.5					Yudi's look when Kunti says humans behave according to the situations (0.5) He was not really "agreeing" with kunti's words..
0.625	0.125	0	2.625	0.625	Total Tally

pg 57

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - June 2
		-0.5			Arjun says becos of me you gave soo much pain to Angraj karna. (I don't know why he said this line 😕) (Objections welcome)
		1			Arjun says because it is my promise, I will still kill Angraj karna

		0.5			Total Tally

pg 43

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - May 29
0.4	0.4	0.4	0.2	0.2	YBANS looking at P right at the start of the scene. YBA has 2 shots.
1					Y looking at P when P says Shakuni will do some prapanch.
	4				Bheem says don't worry P. Shakuni was never believed in war. He always wanted to stall the war. In war, brains of cowards die first.
		3			Arjun looks at P and then says to B that the fear of P is right. Shakuni will do some prapanch.
			1	1	Nakul says we will not fall in the prapanch. Sahadev says not even in the dharma trap.
1.4	4.4	3.4	1.2	1.2	Total Tally

pg 37

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - May 28
	0.83				Bheem says We have think of the safety of the womanfolk(0.5 - since he has mentioned specifics..I am dividing entire woman folk into one section and Panchali into other). What if Dury sends someone to hurt Panchali, Subhadra and Uttara. (split into 3)
0.33	0.33	0.33			YBA look at Panchali when P says that is not needed.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS look at P when she walks into the sabha.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBA look at P when P says we ladies will stay at the war camp too. Wide shot shows NS too looking at her.
0.5		0.5			YA look at P when she says we will look after the food and injured.
	1				Eyelock between P and Bheem.
	1				Second eyelock between P and Bheem.
0.33	0.66	0.33			YBA determined look when P says Dury will be reminded he is getting punishment not dieing a martyr. Bheem has 2 shots.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS looking P when she was tilaking the UPs and Abhimanyu.
1	1	2	1	1	YBANS eyelock with P when doing their respective tilaks. Arjun has 2 shots.
0.5				0.5	Yudi and Sahadev keep looking at P after the tilak ceremony.
					I am not sure where the BAN look when Yudi introduces Shikandini as the senapati. At Yudi or P..
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS get a point for allowing P to be in the war camps.
3.46	5.66	3.96	1.8	2.3	Total Tally

pg24

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - May 20
	0.5	1			Arjun says War was on from the day you dragged Panchali into the court. Bheem closing his fist in anger (0.5 for reacting to arjun's words).
0.5		1			Arjun says that wicked man touched Panchali's clothes. Yudi's angry look (0.5 for reacting to arjun's words).
		4			Arjun says jis stri ke vastre kheche gaye teh woh aryavrat ki maryada thi, maanvata ki laaj thi, saansar ki sabhi strion ka vishwaas tha. Uska nyaah hokar rahega.
	2	0.5			Bheem says dyut se pehle man ko tatolna ne ka samay tha. Go tell Drit to get ready with weapons. Arjun looking angry at Vidur and Sanjay
0.2	0.4	0.4			Arjun and Bheem's angry look when Sanjay starts there are two sides to a coin. (2 shots) Yudi looks up too.
	0.5	0.5			Arjun and Bheem's don't care look when Vidur talks about the consequences of war to elderly and children.
1					Yudi's pro war comments. (0.5 for Panchali and 0.5 for Stree ki maryada dialogue)
					I am not going to mark them when Vidur says we should find a way wherein you get justice too but there is no destruction.
-1	-0.25	-0.25	-0.25	-0.25	YBANS think about Shanti prasthav. (Yudi is the deciding person here hence -1)
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS go to Panchali to ask her opinion/tell her.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS contemplating how to speak to P.
2					Yudi replies to P saying it is rajdharm to try for peace before war. We can sacrifice our dharm.
		2			Arjun replies Yudi has said to Madhav to go to Hastinapur with Shanti prasthav. Madhav says everyone sees their own dharm.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS looking at her when P gets up.
0.33	0.33	0.33			Panchali turns and says Shanti Prasthav. YBA shot.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS shot when P says we can't send Shanti Prastav.
	0.5	0.5			A and B look at her when P says how can we forget our maanv dharma. For insulting a woman, he needs to get death.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS look when P says there is no shanti for kranti.

4.03	4.98	10.98	0.75	0.75	Total Tally

pg15

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - 19th May
					Don't think there is any scoring during the sabha scene. Objections welcome.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS looking at P when P raises her hand to give blessings.
0.33	0.33	0.33			YBA looking at P when she says 'mera ashirwad..'

0.53	0.53	0.53	0.2	0.2	Total Tally

pg8
SOW/POW calculation

Standout Performance: Arjun knowing exactly what Panchali was asking from Abhimanyu and his proud look at P when blessing Abhimanyu.

Yudi = 4.33(0.45) + 2(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 2.85

Bheem = 3.33(0.45) + 1(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 1.95

Arjun = 15.73(0.45) + 5(0.45) + 10(0.1) = 10.33

Nakul = 5.66(0.45) + 4(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 4.35

Sahadev = 3.33(0.45) + 3(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 2.85

Hence Arjun is the winner!! 😊

Pg7

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - 10th May
		-1			Arjun-Subhi eyelock when Vidhushak mentions Abhi will marry Uttara.
		-1			Arjun looks at Subhi when she says she wants to know the childhood story which she still doesn't understand.

		-2			Total Tally

pg3

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - 8th May
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS look at her when Abhi says to her to come up with a way out.
0.1	0.1	0.1	0.1	0.1	YBANS look at her when Abhi takes her along to the dinning table. Split point as Abhi is also with her. Could be looking at both.
0.1	0.1	0.1	0.1	0.1	YBANS looking at her when Abhi says how can we eat without bending our elbows. Again split point.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS look of concern when P is looking at all of her 6 sons.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS look of concern when P starts crying.


.8	.8	.8	.8	.8	Total Tally

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Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - 8th May
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS look at her when Abhi says to her to come up with a way out.
0.1	0.1	0.1	0.1	0.1	YBANS look at her when Abhi takes her along to the dinning table. Split point as Abhi is also with her. Could be looking at both.
0.1	0.1	0.1	0.1	0.1	YBANS looking at her when Abhi says how can we eat without bending our elbows. Again split point.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS look of concern when P is looking at all of her 6 sons.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS look of concern when P starts crying.
-1	-1	-1	-1	-1	YBANS lack of action at P's crying.
					Personally I don't feel to deduct more. P was in tears right from the start but even the UPs and Abhi didn't think much of it. They could have thought that P was in tears and emotionally weaker at seeing them together, since she missed out a lot of their childhood.
(-0.2)	(-0.2)	(-0.2)	(-0.2)	(-0.2)	Total Tally

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Pandava Princes	Total to Date	Daily Score	Updated Total
1. Yuddhi	199.22	0	199.22
2. Bheem	204.47	0	204.47
3. Arjun	209.79	0	209.79
4. Nakul	93.99	0	93.99
5. Sahadev	64.48	0	64.48