How Karma punished Shakuni???

Hi All,

During and after Vastra Haran many Dharm gyani's cursed Adharmi's. Few Dharmi's cursed their fellow Dharmi mates for being mute.
Even Bheem took an oath to burn his Jyeshta's hands for staking Panchali ( I love Bheem for this)
Bhishma, Guru Drona, Vidur gave lectures and few curses to Duryodhan.

Arjun took an oath to mix soil in his food, Bheem took no. Of oaths.
Kunti threatened Kuru Sabha with the name of Narayani Sena.
Yudhishtir will pay off for his sin of staking Panchali by mere burning his hands (which is not a fair deal considering against what he did to Draupadi). Nakul, poor guy couldn't do anything except crying.
Gandhari did drama of sympathy and conscience just to save her family from the curse.
Dhritrashtra ... Perfect example of spineless creature. So its better to talk less about him.

But strangely Noone cursed or punished or took an oath to punish the biggest culprit of this Dice game I.e. Shadyantrakari Shakuni...

Why???

He cheated in that game with the dice and made Yudhishtir loose everything ( including his brain)
It was Shakuni who poisoned Duryodhan against Pandu Putras. Since childhood it was him who had control over Duryodhan's life. Though few a times Bheeshma tried to bar him from Kuru family but couldn't succeed.

Bheem and Arjun took a pratigya to destroy Dhrits family but then why none of them pledged to kill Gandhar raj Shakuni??

I read at once that Sahdev pledged to kill Shakuni. But they haven't showed it.

I don't know much in this pledge of Sahadev. Can anyone give some details on how Shakuni mate his end???
And what was that pledge of Sahadev (em very curious on this part as in Mahabharata Nakul & Sahadev had shown as dormant members)

Well pointed out!

yes, I am curious too
Did Shakuni extricate himself out of punishment? If so, how?

Was everyone around him so blind and dumb that they could not see nor speak out against Shakuni's hand in all this mess?

Did Shakuni' suffer any consequences for this when he was alive?
How did he meet his end?

These are important details and these should not be omitted from the show!

In the epic, it was Bhima who made Arjuna & Sahdeva take prans to kill Karna & Shakuni respectively.

Originally posted by: bangles

Well pointed out!

yes, I am curious too
Did Shakuni extricate himself out of punishment? If so, how?

Was everyone around him so blind and dumb that they could not see nor speak out against Shakuni's hand in all this mess?

Did Shakuni' suffer any consequences for this when he was alive?
How did he meet his end?

These are important details and these should not be omitted from the show!

Exactly, was everyone so stupid to not to see who started this dirty dice game and used the rules in a way which will benefit Duryodhan & family??

Originally posted by: -Shani-

In the epic, it was Bhima who made Arjuna & Sahdeva take prans to kill Karna & Shakuni respectively.[BR][DIV]BTW, in the epic, Yudi NEVER got his hands burnt. Bhima actually threatened to, but Arjuna stopped him from doing it. Here, they have actually shown Bhima taking the pran, AND Yudi reminding him of it, and ENSURING that the pran is complete.[/DIV][BR][DIV]Also, so long as Krishna Himself forgives someone, I guess we have no right to question whether a person's prayaschit was "enough" or not.[/DIV][BR][DIV]Yes, if you take Draupdi's humiliation singularly, NOBODY deserved forgiveness -- neither the Pandavas nor the Kauravas. But if the Pandavas had also been annihilated in Kurukshetra, poor Drau would've been widowed completely.[/DIV][BR][DIV]And, Draupadi IS a pativrata sati (despite her fiery outspokenness). So, there is NO way Krishna would've harmed any of her hubbies (the Pandavas) at any cost.[/DIV][BR][DIV]Regarding your question, it was hdevawho killed Shakuni in Kurukshetra.[/DIV]

Actually in all the 5 brothers it was Bheem who seemed to a human ... When I say this I mean he was a human who loved his people, fought for them, cried with them and gave his everything for them.
His love towards Draupadi shows that he had a heart which loved his wife, he had a brain to think wisely when he tried to keep Yudi away from staking himself.
Other 4 brothers were not like him.
Yudhishtir (God knows why they made him Chakravarti samrat) who gambled his empire which was built by his brothers, it wasn't enough so he gambled those brothers and to top it he gambled his wife. Still people call him Dharmaraj **eye roll**
I think he was so much in love with his [B]Dharmaraj[/B] image that he lost the basic sense of right & wrong.

Arjuna, though he took some oaths to kill several people but he gave clean chit to his elder brother. He was concerned abt his love for his big bro [xx(] and of course he never loved Draupadi , so he couldnt feel het pain.

Nakul and Sahadev [:s] did Madri's sons really had anything to do (except being always there to compleye the no. 5 and taaccepting Yudi's decisions??) I have only read this thing that Sahadev killed Shakuni. But how and what all happened, don't know...

Vyas refers to Draupadi as Arjunas "Love" in Vana Parva, just after he returns from Indralok.

Exactly my point!

Arjun vowed to kill karna
Bhim vowed to kill duryodhan, dushasan and all kaurav bros

Bhishma cursed duryodhan
Arjun cursed Karna


And yet no one cursed shakuni

No One vowed to kill him

No one even said anything to him...WHY

he is the evil brainchild of this dice drama...why spare him??
its just absurd

Originally posted by: Medha.S

Vyas refers to Draupadi as Arjunas "Love" in Vana Parva, just after he returns from Indralok.

He embraces the brothers, then goes to Draupadi to cheer her.

He also gives on to His Love, Sutsoma's Mother all the things, ornament, wealth he acquired from heaven.

So what makes anyone assume that he did not love Draupadi?

Even a mellow and subtle KMG uses the world love instead of wife.

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Shakuni got killed by someone he probably thought was not much of a threat to him? Not like the eldest three?😆

Umhmm , I didn't know abt these details but whatever I read it says that Draupadi always loved Parth more but he never reciprocated her feelings. And he loved Subhdra more. Subhdra was his dearest wife. As she was a mother of his first child .

Anyways I like reading ur posts , they r very informative 😊

Originally posted by: kriya37

Exactly my point!

Arjun vowed to kill karna
Bhim vowed to kill duryodhan, dushasan and all kaurav bros

Bhishma cursed duryodhan
Arjun cursed Karna


And yet no one cursed shakuni

No One vowed to kill him

No one even said anything to him...WHY

he is the evil brainchild of this dice drama...why spare him??
its just absurd

I hate Shakuni more than Duryodhan.
Why was he always in HP. In old days people were like beti k ghar ka pani tak nahi pee sakte then why was he always in sisters house , interfering in their family matters??
He wanted to take revenge with Bheeshma for the injustice happened with his family but I never understood his hatred towards Pandu's family. Why he hated them so much??