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Posted: 11 years ago
Yudhishtir's dharam

During the sixth year of exile after Draupadi breaks down


But how hard it was to reconcile such opposite temperaments: the son of Dharma and Agni's daughter! Serene as ever, Yudhishtira took his wife's hands. He wiped her warm tears and said gently, Precious Panchali, do you really think I don't see how you suffer and how my brothers suffer? Is that what you think of me: that I am insensitive to your pain, when you are dearer to me than life itself? Do you think I feel no anguish at what happened in Hastinapura? That I feel no anger, no shame. Then, surely, you feel I am heartless: worse than our enemies.

How you little you understand me. But listen to me now, what I have to say is quite simple. You speak of patience and anger and there being a time for each. My queen, this is not the time for anger; it is the time for patience. It is natural to feel rage at what happened. I feel it, too, as much as any of you. I am not a stone that I am unmoved by what they did to us. But anger blinds the soul and I will never allow anger to rule me. When the time is ripe, I will use my anger against my enemies; not now, when it is likely to delude me.Anger is useful only when the man is master of his rage; and not his rage his master, hurrying him to his death. Patience is much harder for us now than anger; but patient we must be, if we want to achieve our ends. I see from your face what I say does not please you. Yet, I speak for dharma. I gave my word in Hastinapura: for better or for worse, whether I was cheated at dice or not. Draupadi, to break my word is against my dharma. I will suffer if I do and those dear to me, no one else. Let us both renounce our anger for the time being. I, my wrath against the Kauravas for what they did to us and you, yours against me for what I am saying to you now
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Posted: 11 years ago
More on Yudhistir's dharama.I feel he is perhaps one of the most misunderstood character's of MB people view him as weak because perhaps he wasn't as good a warrior as his two younger brother's but i have always felt he fought more with his mind than weapons.His concept of dharma was also quite logical and intelligent yes i can't understand some of his actions as well because i am extremely emotional and most of my decisions are from my heart and not my mind but except for dhyut sabha when yudhishtir lost all his senses i feel he is perhaps the most mature and intelligent of the pandavas

Yudhistir's dharma

This is during the sixth year of exile when Bhima tried to convince yudhishtir to do something

Bheema, I deserve to have you say all this to me, my brother. Your words are like livid needles in my heart; and for what I did, I deserve worse. It is my fault we are here. It is not as if I did not know I would lose my reason, once I sat at the dice-board. Shakuni knew this and how to goad me on; but I knew it too. It wasn't the first time I had played dice.

He sighed and his eyes were moist. 'What is done is done and nothing I can say or do will fetch back time. I am guilty and I must learn to live with my guilt, finding solace where I may for making all of you suffer. Nothing you say can be worse than my own memories of that day. Over and over again, I see the dice rolling ruin out of Shakuni's smooth hands. I hear myself losing my kingdom, my brothers, myself, Panchali, everything. And it is like dying, worse than dying, for these memories are fraught with such terrible shame. But I must learn to be brave: to accept what I did, to live with it and to overcome it.


Draupadi, Bheema, whatever you say to me, your harshest accusations can only be less than my crime deserves.

He fell silent. Bheema was certain he had convinced Yudhishtira. All that remained was for his brother to give the word and they would swoop down on Hastinapura and set everything right again.

Then, lowering his voice, Yudhishtira spoke so softly that he was almost speaking to himself. But the others heard him clearly and there was no mistaking what he said.

Yes, Bheema, it is only true, what you say I have done. But there is one other thing. At the end of my folly, when our kingdom was lost at the second game of dice, I gave my word that I would spend twelve years in the jungle in exile and a thirteenth in disguise. And, hear me well, Bheema, Draupadi, all of you: my word is sacred and I will not break it.

He spoke calmly, but it was clear he meant what he said. It was Yudhishtira, their older brother and husband, who spoke and now it was Yudhishtira their king. He said, At the end of thirteen years, if Duryodhana refuses to give us back our kingdom, then, Bheema, I shall indeed become as angry as you want me to. Then I will think of killing our enemies and, at that time, no one will stop me. Just as no one will persuade me today, because I know I have returned to the path of dharma and I will not leave it again.

At the end of thirteen years, if they do not give back what is ours, we shall have war with them. Then, Bheema, you can strew the field of battle with our enemies corpses and you can do it with my blessing. You can dismember Dusasana and break Duryodhana'ss thigh. Arjuna, you can kill Karna and his men. Sahadeva can kill Shakuni and Nakula can kill his son Uluka. And, Panchali, you can feast your eyes on the dead and wash your hair in Dusasana's blood.

He paused and it was so strange for the others to hear their pacific brother speak like that of war and killing. They could almost see the jungle turn into a battlefield and the lake before them into blood. They sat bemused by the visions Yudhishtira conjured for them. He went on as in a dream, still speaking as softly as night fell.



I will fight beside you then. I will also let my hands and my weapons speak for me. Ah, yes, I will also let loose the fiend, rage, whom I would have shackled for thirteen long years. And no one will say Yudhishtira is the same man who stood silently in the court of Hastinapura while his wife and brothers were humiliated, repeatedly. No one will believe it.

He spoke simply, from his heart and not Bheema or Draupadi dared talk back to Yudhishtira. It was as if he had been called on to prove he was worthy of being their king: that he could contain them. No one could have proved it so quietly, so effectively.

Bheema, I swear everything I have said will come to pass if they don't keep their word at the end of thirteen years. But not a day before that. For, in the meanwhile, I must keep my own word. Otherwise, dharma will desert me and I shall be no better than they are.

Then he paused, before saying, There is something else. You imagine the Kauravas are perfectly happy now, that they have sent us into exile. You think they are enjoying the fruits of their crime. Bheema, things are not what you imagine. I tell you, Dhritarashtra hasn't a moment of peace. His conscience savages him for what he has done to us and fear chokes every breath he draws. His life has turned into a hell and he is in constant dread of the day we return to claim what is ours. Your threats haunt him and he suffers anguish worse than death. Bheema, our uncle is already paying for what he did.

And so also, Duryodhana and the others. They are only human and guilt will not spare them its torments. No man who breaks dharma escapes the consequences. The seat of dharma is not somewhere far from a man, or in heaven, but in his own heart. With all the reasoning in the world, the one person he can never escape is himself. Our enemies already pay for their sin. So let us be masters of ourselves, in the knowledge that, even today, they are punished fiercely by guilt and fear. At the end of thirteen years, if they have not relented, then we shall become the instruments of a final retribution.

As for the reason I restrained you in the sabha of Hastinapura, it was because rashness never achieves anything. We must reflect before we act. We must act calmly, so we accomplish our purpose. Most often, men do not realize what they do, or why; and they gain nothing by their thoughtlessness.

So, Bheema, finished Yudhishtira decisively, we must wait these thirteen years out, patiently. When they are over, if our cousins are still adamant, we will face them in war. That I promise you.

Even as he spoke, it seemed to the others Yudhishtira grew old and wise beyond their understanding. Now Bheema was quiet. What his brother said about the Kauravas already suffering calmed him. Draupadi was quiet; though grudgingly, she, too, saw the sense of what Yudhishtira said. It was only he who saw clearly in this time of darkness and when he spoke to them like that, with such conviction, the others saw their own immaturity and rashness reflected clear against his quiet wisdom. They realized that he also wanted justice for what they had suffered; perhaps, he wanted it more fervently than they did. Yudhishtira was prepared to wait to see justice done: to be sure it was done properly


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Posted: 11 years ago
Okay, just saw today's episode, and it was completely Nakul-Sahadev's episode. 👏 to ⭐️B - that's more than can be expected of even Vyasa 👎🏼

When NS poured what looked like honey mustard 😆 on Karna, he looked like a burger - the blood underneath looked like ketchup, and the 'sandalwood' overneath looked like honey mustard. And when his cure was complete, he looked completely carmelized 😆 I didn't get why Kunti told NS that she'd remain in the Kaurava camp: her role would have been similar to Shalya, had women been in combat. Makes it almost look like had Pandu been alive, he'd have fought on the Kaurava side (I'm talking about the real epic here, not ⭐️B

Back to ⭐️B - they picked the ugliest guy to play Shalya - bald and bearded, in sharp contrast to the handsome looking Drupada & Virata. Diala, there goes your wish to have him played by our Sishupala 😆 It was funny to hear him insult Dhritarashtra & Gandhari - just after he's been tricked into joining their side. He even called Dhritarashtra a napunsak - ⭐️Shishu lives on in him. And no mention of his visit to Yudisthir or the promise to undermine Karna's confidence. I'm actually fine w/ that, since a careful reading of Karna parva hasn't demonstrated to me how exactly did Shalya cause any defeat of Karna @ Arjun's hands.

So, ⭐️B has robbed Yudisthir of his one achievement in the war - killing Shalya - and given it to Nakul? What would Yudisthir do now? 😆

Incidentally, how was Dhrishtadyumna talking to Kunti about not curing an enemy? Isn't Shikhandini the senapati? Why isn't she shown?

Looks like Krishna is giving the Gita upadesh to not Arjun, but all the Pandavas, and not on the field, but in the camp.
Edited by .Vrish. - 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Diala, there goes your wish to have him played by our Sishupala 😆 It was funny to hear him insult Dhritarashtra & Gandhari - just after he's been tricked into joining their side. He even called Dhritarashtra a napunsak - ⭐️Shishu lives on in him.


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After ⭐️Sishu's demise, CVs got obsessed with the word napunsak 😆 hmm half wish is done.. could have been Joy Mathur 🤔
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yudhi n Duryodhan Gada Fight
Edited by -abhi-pundir- - 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -abhi-pundir-

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Yudhi n Duryodhan Gadha Fight

WHATT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please elaborate!!!!🤢 and which one 'Telly Talk'??? ,they must be kidding
So they are changing the achievments or what!!Nakul-Shalya,Yudi-Duri,and on and on ,
Edited by darklight - 11 years ago
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Yudhi n Mace? 😆 with Duryodhan? 😆
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Originally posted by: ...Diala...

Yudhi n Mace? 😆 with Duryodhan? 😆

⭐️War rules are being taken a bit too seriously it seems...😆
I thought gadadhari with gadadhari means Bhim v/s Dury...

Also, if Yudi can be given mace, then why can't Dury be given a spear?
It should work both ways...


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how do we call a Spear-Dhari? 😛 Yudi did defeat Dury once but that was not a mace fight right.. wont anyone else than Karna Arjun Bheeshma and Drona use bow?
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Originally posted by: darklight


WHATT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please elaborate!!!!🤢 and which one 'Telly Talk'??? ,they must be kidding
So they are changing the achievments or what!!Nakul-Shalya,Yudi-Duri,and on and on ,


First i thought he was Bheem n they r shoting for Duri Vadh!!!! But noo i was wrong coz Bheem k place p Yudhi tha 😕

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