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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cool-n-Fresh


In Satya Yuga, the first age, Dharma is depicted as a bull with four legs, but in each age morality is reduced by one quarter. By the age of Kali, morality is reduced to only a quarter of that of the golden age, so that the bull of Dharma has only one leg.

Ain't Dwapar Yug better than Kali Yug in terms of Dharma!?The situation over there seems to be worst and out of control compared to this age!🤔

Mahabharat Era looks NO way satisfying than this age!!

Even there we can find Hunger for power,lack of trust,assaults on women,lack of morality,lying to elders,breach of Trust and Loyalty(this is the area where numerous examples can be given!!),illicit relations!?
Additionally, to name few...we have Kidnap of young girls(By Bheeshma!?🥱),staking of one's own wife by DHARMA himself!?😲Killing of Foetus(By Ashwathama!)

For me the people of Mahabharat Age, save few, seem to be highly indisciplined!!

Please share your Opinion!



Mahabharat happend at the end of Dwapara Yuga. We have finished only 5000 years out of 432000 years. (thats like only 0.01% of Kali Yuga has gotten over)

EDIT:

Kali is the great-great-grandson of Lord Brahma.

Parikshit, in Dwapara Yuga, allowed the demon Kali to reside in 5 places: Gambling, Alcohol, Prostitution, Animal slaughter and Gold.

Don't underestimate Kali Yuga. Duryodhana was an incarnation of Kali but was not fully potent. Even then he was the sole reason for the entire Mahabharat war... imagine how much damage it would be when he has reached full potency (Kali Yuga) that it would take Lord Vishnu to himself take an Avatar to overthrow Kali and re-establish Dharma. In Dwapara Yuga, Krishna did not have to kill Duryodhana only because he wasn't potent enough.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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For those interested in knowing how different Kali Yuga will be to Dwapar Yuga, you can check this link out (Mahabharata - Bhavishya Parva): http://mahabharata-resources.org/harivamsa/bhavishyaparva/hv_3_003.html and also this: http://mahabharata-resources.org/harivamsa/bhavishyaparva/hv_3_004.html
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hey thanks a lot for the links 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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If you are a staunch devotee you will be protected by God irrespective of the Yuga you live in.Nothing can fall on you if god is with you.This is the ultimate truth that resulted by passing of each Yuga.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@-Shruti Thanks 😊

Originally posted by: SRUJAconscience


If you are a staunch devotee you will be protected by God irrespective of the Yuga you live in.Nothing can fall on you if god is with you.This is the ultimate truth that resulted by passing of each Yuga.


Absolutely. But remember that it is God who tests his devotees by placing hurdles. So however staunch you might be, you cannot overcome God's Maya unless you have his blessings.

Example: Sage Narada is possibly the greatest devotee of Lord Vishnu. But when ego got in the way of his devotion even he couldn't escape Lord Vishnu's Maya. http://vipasana-vidushika.blogspot.in/2013/06/the-curses-lord-vishnu-endured.html

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SRUJAconscience


If you are a staunch devotee you will be protected by God irrespective of the Yuga you live in.Nothing can fall on you if god is with you.This is the ultimate truth that resulted by passing of each Yuga.

Beautiful😊, you said it all.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I know Satyaug was way too good, even Treta and Dwapar yug too were good. Humanity was more, compassion was there but even then I like Kaliyug better.

We have a sense of harmony between countries, we easily can travel and have business. We have advance technology today so that we can live in comfort, especially in winters. We an have heaters and gysers and in summers, we can enjoy air conditioning and chilled water from refrigerator. Today we have too many options to choose from which career we want, earlier for girls it was just marriage. We have aeroplanes to take us quickly from one place to the other. We can control our armies if the neighbours are friendly. We can have good relations with them today.

Yes, we have problems, too huge problems but they are more of our own making. Like our greedy politicians encourage loot, terrorism, corruption, Corporates start bribery they ruin the environment our natural resourses to become rich richer richest. People from poverty stricken are so hungry that they even sell their own soul not to mention their women and children.

Some religious people make fools of people to gain monetary riches and fame. Not just hindu religious people mind you even Muslims and Christians too.

Some people introduce Alcohol, sex, homosexuality, po*n for their own lust and greed and false passion. Why is it that even though simple law abiding people are more on earth yet they remain quite and see their children being led by the pied piper. They are so powerless to stop them from being sick both physically and mentally. Is it more due to status as rich people????? Is it due to their fake "shaan and shohrat".

Is that not happening to our coutnry. Are we doing anything to stop our 16 or 17 yrs old from consuming alcohol or are we stopping our kids from having pre marital sex. Are we stoping them from smoking???

I know we were very cultured society very civilized society 10 yrs back but we did simply nothing to stop our kids from going Duryodhan's way. We want English convent education for them thinking this way our chidlren will become modern and we make faces when we hear that certain child has studied in gurukul or some Vidya peeth???? No matter the latter is way ahead in both acedemic as well as good values adn have more principles and ambitions in life.

We are aiping west copying their way of life with our eyes and mind both WIDE OPEN TO THEIR ALL THE WRONGS AND leaving behind our ALL THE GOODS knowing very well that in front of us is a BLACK HOLE FROM WHERE THERE IS NO RETURN.

Personally, nothing wrong with yugs only people change and their mind set changes making them greedy, corrupt and selfish.

As they say in Kaliyug it is really very easy to get help from all the gods even though they are invisible but yet we can feel them around us.

I think Kaliyug is best and we are very lucky to be born as Kaliyugi 😉😆


Only effort needs from our side to erase all the problems is to ban alcohol, cigarettes, po*nography we have already achieved a great mile stone by banning Homosexuality, ban skin exposer and media vulgarity, teach our chidlren moral values and teach them our sacred textx stories full of morals and good conduct and introduce a self of dignity and self respect among poor people by giving them earning power in short all we need is a good leader for our country then you will say Definitely, Kaliyug is better then all the other yugs.

Kash it was that simple but is it an impossibility??? I think not.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rasyafan

I know Satyaug was way too good, even Treta and Dwapar yug too were good. Humanity was more, compassion was there but even then I like Kaliyug better.

We have a sense of harmony between countries, we easily can travel and have business. We have advance technology today so that we can live in comfort, especially in winters. We an have heaters and gysers and in summers, we can enjoy air conditioning and chilled water from refrigerator. Today we have too many options to choose from which career we want, earlier for girls it was just marriage. We have aeroplanes to take us quickly from one place to the other. We can control our armies if the neighbours are friendly. We can have good relations with them today.

Yes, we have problems, too huge problems but they are more of our own making. Like our greedy politicians encourage loot, terrorism, corruption, Corporates start bribery they ruin the environment our natural resourses to become rich richer richest. People from poverty stricken are so hungry that they even sell their own soul not to mention their women and children.

Some religious people make fools of people to gain monetary riches and fame. Not just hindu religious people mind you even Muslims and Christians too.

Some people introduce Alcohol, sex, homosexuality, po*n for their own lust and greed and false passion. Why is it that even though simple law abiding people are more on earth yet they remain quite and see their children being led by the pied piper. They are so powerless to stop them from being sick both physically and mentally. Is it more due to status as rich people????? Is it due to their fake "shaan and shohrat".

Is that not happening to our coutnry. Are we doing anything to stop our 16 or 17 yrs old from consuming alcohol or are we stopping our kids from having pre marital sex. Are we stoping them from smoking???

I know we were very cultured society very civilized society 10 yrs back but we did simply nothing to stop our kids from going Duryodhan's way. We want English convent education for them thinking this way our chidlren will become modern and we make faces when we hear that certain child has studied in gurukul or some Vidya peeth???? No matter the latter is way ahead in both acedemic as well as good values adn have more principles and ambitions in life.

We are aiping west copying their way of life with our eyes and mind both WIDE OPEN TO THEIR ALL THE WRONGS AND leaving behind our ALL THE GOODS knowing very well that in front of us is a BLACK HOLE FROM WHERE THERE IS NO RETURN.

Personally, nothing wrong with yugs only people change and their mind set changes making them greedy, corrupt and selfish.

As they say in Kaliyug it is really very easy to get help from all the gods even though they are invisible but yet we can feel them around us.

I think Kaliyug is best and we are very lucky to be born as Kaliyugi 😉😆


Only effort needs from our side to erase all the problems is to ban alcohol, cigarettes, po*nography we have already achieved a great mile stone by banning Homosexuality, ban skin exposer and media vulgarity, teach our chidlren moral values and teach them our sacred textx stories full of morals and good conduct and introduce a self of dignity and self respect among poor people by giving them earning power in short all we need is a good leader for our country then you will say Definitely, Kaliyug is better then all the other yugs.

Kash it was that simple but is it an impossibility??? I think not.

wow i like ur comment dear...
i do have a question wasnt their homosexuality in acient times...??
what will happen with handfull godfollowers in the end of kaliyug ..because most people will be evil ..
What will happen with the soul in Kaliyug??
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i'll explain in simple terms.

in dwapar yuga cousins fought and tried to kill each other.
in kaliyuga hubby is killing wife, wife is killing hubby, son is killing parents, sister is killing bro, bro is torturing and killing sis. its shown in crime patrol.

in dwapar yuga bt pandavas loved each other. even kauravas loved each other. like dushasan loved duryodhan. kauravas always thought duri as their king. pandavas thought yudi as their king.

in kaliyuga,aurangzeb mughal emperor killed all his own brothers imprisoned his father to become king.

in kaliyuga everywhere there's crime and corruption. there are kidnappings, rapes, murders, fraud and what not. all this surely didnt exist to so much extent in dwapar yuga.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Reshama.

wow i like ur comment dear...

i do have a question wasnt their homosexuality in acient times...??
what will happen with handfull godfollowers in the end of kaliyug ..because most people will be evil ..
What will happen with the soul in Kaliyug??



Thanks dear. No homosexuality was not there in ancient time, otherwise in India it would have existed. Though some people do say that it used to exist but there is no scripture that says that homosexuality wasa part of Sanatan Dharm. Aghoree are Shiv worshippers but usually they are out castes because of their dirty habbits of eating flesh and Animals and their sexual activities. Whatever, they do it is against Ved.

My guess is similarly homosexuality if it existed then it was very less may be a few handful of people but was not part of Bharatiya samaj. If you read about Indian ancient social structure and it's culture then it was a very systmatic, law abiding and civilized both in literary and practice. Always right from the conception of Indus Valley civilization each and every human was expected to follow rules and laws of society. Always it was samaj that used to come first. and all the dharm and laws were based on running a society smoothly which is why varn system came to be which was a very systmatic division of society based on occupations and on basis of each varn different rules and regulations were carried out just. The upper the varn the more responsibilities it was given. Over time upper varn started exploiting lower and lower exploited upper varns.

Yes, Bhavishya puran do say that homosexuality will be on the rise in kalyug and women will be the power holders or in powerful position and cannibalism will also rise which means man will eat another man. Children will be spoil brats killers there would be no innocence left on earth.

We are already seeing everything like this. But right now it is just starting but at the end of kaliyug just guess it will be 1000 times more.

So neither will there be innocence nor there would be good people and one day kalki bhagwan, the 10th reincarnation of vishnu ji will come on white horse and slay the entire race of humans and their soul will unite with Lord Vishnu and we all will get moksh. This is what I read.


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