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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: varaali

Is that why all of you are choosing Karna?????

Biye pore language problems hobe na. 😆 Arjuna to bangla janena. Or shonge hindi te kotha bolte hobe.



But then their sasur bari will go from Kolkata to I think Karnasuvarna, which I think was the capital of Anga. That or Lakhanavati (today's Malda)

How many of you Bongs are from that area?


Originally posted by: Patrarekha

but anga was not in bengal its in modern day bihar so karna will speak bhojpuri instead of Bengali and since i have chosen Bavrubahan i have to learn Manipuri



Anga was North Bengal - today's Malda to Sikkim, and bits of Bihar. So the languages he'd have to handle would mainly be Bengali, Nepali and maybe a bit of Maithili.
Edited by .Vrish. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
north bengal is called pundravardhan and malda was in gauda
check anga in the age of 16 mahajanapadas was in eastern bihar may b few of north west bengal can b included

here is wiki reference

Location[edit]

Based on Mahabharata evidence, the kingdom of the Angas roughly corresponded to the districts of Bhagalpur, Banka, Purnia, Munger, Katihar and Jamui in Bihar and districts of Deoghar, Godda, and Sahebganj in Jharkhand; later extended to include Malda and Uttar Dinajpur in Bengal. The River Champa (modern Chandan) formed the boundaries between the Magadha in the west and Anga in the east. Anga was bounded by river Koshi on the north. According to the Mahabharata, Duryodhana had named Karna the King of Anga.

Sabhaparava of Mahabharata (II.44.9) mentions Anga and Vanga as forming one country. The Katha-Sarit-Sagara also attests that Vitankapur, a city of Anga was situated on the shores of the sea. Thus the boundaries of Anga may have extended to the sea in the east.

Capital[edit]

The capital of Anga was Champa (Camp). According to Mahabharata and Harivamsa, Champa was formerly known as Malini[N.B. 1]. Champa was located on the right bank of river Ganges near its junction with river Champa. It was a very flourishing city and is referred to as one of six principal cities of ancient India (Digha Nikaya). Bhagalpur in Bihar, usually identified as the site of Champa, still has two villages called Champa-nagara and Champa-pura.[6]

Champa was noted for its wealth and commerce. It was also a great center of trade and commerce and its merchants regularly sailed to distant Suvarnabhumi for trading purposes. During his pilgrimage there in the end of the 4th century, the Chinese monk Faxan noted the numerous Buddhist temples that still existed in the city, transliterated Chanpo in Chinese ( pinyin: Zhnb; Wade-Giles: Chanpo)[N.B. 2]. The kingdom of Anga by then had long ceased to exist; it had been known as Yngji () in Chinese.[N.B. 3]

The later kingdom of Champa (in present-day Vietnam) was thought to have originated from this east Indian Champa, although anthropological evidence indicates they are from Borneo on the other side Indochinese Peninsula.

Other important cities of Anga are said to be Assapura and Bhadrika.

Edited by Patrarekha - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
@Vrish spoken like a bengali dada😆..but location and Language is not the problem I only want my Angaraj 😳
Edited by panchaali - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
I wouldn't go by Wiki - they get things wrong. Pundra is what's today's Bangladesh (according to 1 account, it was run by Paundrak Vasudev, our DBSK hero 😆). Malda == Gauda, but that was not the name at the time, the name was Lakshmanavata or Lakhanavati. Karna's kingdom would have been everything above that.


South Bengal went by the name Banga, and was one of the Kaurava allies in the war. Sabhaparva chapter 44 is about the death of Sishupala, and has nothing on the geographical composition of Anga.


Originally posted by: Patrarekha

north bengal is called pundravardhan and malda was in gauda

check anga in the age of 16 mahajanapadas was in eastern bihar may b few of north west bengal can b included

here is wiki reference

Location[edit]

Based on Mahabharata evidence, the kingdom of the Angas roughly corresponded to the districts of Bhagalpur, Banka, Purnia, Munger, Katihar and Jamui in Bihar and districts of Deoghar, Godda, and Sahebganj in Jharkhand; later extended to include Malda and Uttar Dinajpur in Bengal. The River Champa (modern Chandan) formed the boundaries between the Magadha in the west and Anga in the east. Anga was bounded by river Koshi on the north. According to the Mahabharata, Duryodhana had named Karna the King of Anga.

Sabhaparava of Mahabharata (II.44.9) mentions Anga and Vanga as forming one country. The Katha-Sarit-Sagara also attests that Vitankapur, a city of Anga was situated on the shores of the sea. Thus the boundaries of Anga may have extended to the sea in the east.

Capital[edit]

The capital of Anga was Champa (Camp). According to Mahabharata and Harivamsa, Champa was formerly known as Malini[N.B. 1]. Champa was located on the right bank of river Ganges near its junction with river Champa. It was a very flourishing city and is referred to as one of six principal cities of ancient India (Digha Nikaya). Bhagalpur in Bihar, usually identified as the site of Champa, still has two villages called Champa-nagara and Champa-pura.[6]

Champa was noted for its wealth and commerce. It was also a great center of trade and commerce and its merchants regularly sailed to distant Suvarnabhumi for trading purposes. During his pilgrimage there in the end of the 4th century, the Chinese monk Faxan noted the numerous Buddhist temples that still existed in the city, transliterated Chanpo in Chinese ( pinyin: Zhnb; Wade-Giles: Chanpo)[N.B. 2]. The kingdom of Anga by then had long ceased to exist; it had been known as Yngji () in Chinese.[N.B. 3]

The later kingdom of Champa (in present-day Vietnam) was thought to have originated from this east Indian Champa, although anthropological evidence indicates they are from Borneo on the other side Indochinese Peninsula.

Other important cities of Anga are said to be Assapura and Bhadrika.


Originally posted by: Patrarekha

malda and north dinajpur was included later but i doubt if it was during karna's time

and anga's capital as u can see is champa not karnasubarna

and another thing karnasubarna was not in malda but modern murshidabad it was capital of shashanka



Shashanka lived in the 7th century AD. For Dwapar Yuga, it could easily have been a part of Karna's kingdom. The name itself - Karnasuvarna - suggests that it was either built by Karna, or one of his successors.

I'd like to see where in MB is the exact geographical description of Anga given. The one Wiki cited above is certainly not it - no mention of either Karna nor Anga in that chapter.
Edited by .Vrish. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Kalinga was Orissa, but Anga & Banga were divided along latitude - Anga being north Bengal, Banga being south. See this map below from a thread posted a couple months ago - even if we accept Champa as the capital, it's right on the WB-Bihar border - see below.

I do stand corrected on 1 thing - it's not in the Darjeeling-Sikkim area. Although I thought Videha was Mithila. But from the map below, Anga is squarely in Bengal (today's WB & Bangaldesh)


thanks a lot Vrish for such detail info .. I guess Vihaar was a part of Banga too then .. Bihaar state became a different state later .. so it could be like this but I guess the area near Bhagalpur was the center of his region .. as It was a neighbor country of Magadha what had patuliputra i.e. Patna now at its center
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Posted: 11 years ago
So all you 20 bous now know where Karna lived - jao, giyey grihoprobesh koro (go & do the grihapravesh 😆)
Edited by .Vrish. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
what m saying not from my imagination but from ancient history books , refer upindar singh its also same
anga atleast on times of 16 mahajanapadas is on bihar bhagalpur area

during karna's time map can b a bit different though
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Posted: 11 years ago
my choice is obviously Angraj Karn..
n i can see he got so mant girls waiting for him..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Ddiala


Yes mimi.. but no worries you can join them 😃

HAHA!! I m 1st in the line 😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
So Karna is the popular choice 😆

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