An experiential viewpoint ..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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My first post on this forum, though I have been reading regularly & I truly am amazed by amount of different substories that this forum has got in to the light of all tracks so far. Plus the discussions are great as well.

Personal biggest 'likepoint' of Mahabharat is how it connect my kids & my mom & generates discussions & stories about it at home. My son loves waching Mahadev & now Mahabharat (in addition to Angrybirds & starwars & this & that ).. and I Love that!

I still remember how old 'mahabhaaaraaat... w/ shankhnaad & ..sri Krishna bharat Bharti' in Mahendra Kapur's voice used to fill up my Sunday morning as kid! It took me to read various versions of this epic from Amarchitrakatha to original Bhagvad Gita to various literary masterpieces with modern, bold viewpoints!

This mahabharat , too presents a quite different approach. Kind of not staying on path of original story though. Sure, super casting & impressive actors, grand sets & good locales is there but still ...

Few pointers: Honestly, Krishna as narrator was a surprise, I liked. (SRJain is perfect). But where is he these days??? And though initial episodes I found bit sketchy (screechy when tinywinny Amba was around, whale-ish fish jumping in valley river, overpushy Satyavati etc) ... they covered up with young Kurus- pandvas & kaurvas(just 3 they focus on- Duryodhan, Dushasan, Dushala).

My fav. consistent Characters so far have been- Krishna as Sutradhar, Shakuni, Pitamah Bhishma & Kunti.

This StarPlus Mahabharat is definitely made with direct/undirect/conscious/sub-concious/un-concious effort to hook new age kids to teens to youngAdults .

Say Hi5 if you agree with/ felt similar at the any of following:

- From my little boy's observations & questions like:The Hastinapur sabhagrih- from top view looks like big alienship' with that big dome & circular windows on top .. in initial episodes rakshsa's harassing villagers -who were wearing animal masks .. were like straight out of totem references (though I liked how they depicted evil as human in disguised attire)...
My 'oye' .. reactions:
- When Madri & Kunti's prime with Pandu was on.. did you hear rishta wahiii .. soach nayii... in your mental background, when Madri was shown jealous-thinking and all Splus-ish!

- Or did you miss hearing "nahiiin..." when Kunti was thrashing her shayangriha...or Gandhari was ridiculed by her Patidev!! .. (A La Gopi vahu)

- Mama Shakuni.. from the time he was introduced as cliff hanger .. till date .. does he remind you of Jack sparrow? the Pirate of carrebian .. err. .gandhar! (Praneet Bhatt is my favoritest in this show so far- a perfect fit , fantastic potrayal)

- Dhritrashtra... did you miss hearing: a la sajid khan-Ranjit : "Eeehh... 😃" in the background... Doesn't he remind you of classic retro Ranjit when it comes to 'the villain-o-ka-Pitashri'

- Grown Up Yudhishthir 😳... what happened Swastik? Why again ??? (now, if you were Navya fan/ viewer, you'll know what I am talking about ...) Why again this MuteMohan' again Tiwaribhaiyya?? Thought this good actor will get his due as Yudhishthir, jayeshtha Pandva.. but ..Oh well... but, oh why???

- Grown up Arjun ... Atta Boy! Shaheerbhai... You haven't let the chanel or PH down - so far. Though, raise your hand - if , post veena vaadan in front of earlier thanexpected +scarrierthanexpected Subhadra .. Arjun's reactions post Dhrit+sons outrage reminded totally of Navvya ka Anant. With open mouth ( I heard in mental bg anant saying .. woh.. main.. lekin.. papa/chacha...) .. Hope this improves. Along with stance in standing scenes! (a special 'gadgad' note here: Shaheer, You & Somya will always be my favorite-est & I always feel proud when you go places.)

- Subhadra... why oh- why .. oh whyšŸ˜•???? Bas!

- Grown Up Pandvas & Kauravas & Karna.. total 'bhai , bole toh : bhidu .. bas kya..? tiffs & turns.. huffs & puffs.. classic tale of Kektamaiyya's storybook: 'once upon a time in Hastinapur- Dobara'.

In future, they ill have many more such references-visual, contextual, memorial etc!

Like Bheem & Hidimba's Lovestory will be shown a la shrek way .. Arjun's Brihnalla will be? ... Draupadi's batwara (you bet Sp is banking on over dramatic, trp thumping High melodrama here) will be dramatized w/ ultimate sacrificial superSP bahu way..She will beat akshras+gopis+pankhudis et al!

bahut scope hai in this Story wohi, soch kahin?! Tiwaribhaiyya +SittaronPlus 's interprtation mein!

Still, a good watch & hope it will create impact on younger generation as another version created on previous one!

Mahabharat... it indeed is a maha epic, with maha -effect on our culture, belief system.. and as they say it is about everything everyday life offers. A bit more sensitive approach & true to its essence depiction would be my choice!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Awesome post Shaina as usualšŸ‘...
always love reading your posts

Grown up Arjun ... Atta Boy! Shaheerbhai... You haven't let the chanel or PH down - so far. Though, raise your hand - if , post veena vaadan in front of earlier thanexpected +scarrierthanexpected Subhadra .. Arjun's reactions post Dhrit+sons outrage reminded me totally of Navvya ka Anant. With open mouth ( I heard in mental bg anant saying .. who.. main.. lekin.. papa/chacha...) .. Hope this improves. Along with stance in standing scenes! (a special gadgad' note here: Shaheer, You & Somya will always be my favorite-est & I always feel proud when you go places.)

- Subhadra... why oh- why .. oh whyšŸ˜•???? Bas!


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Bahut Dino baad likha hai per kya khoob likha hain shaina benšŸ‘
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Posted: 11 years ago
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A typical "U" kinda writeup shainaben!!! U alwz bringout d good in d bad dat v usually missout or ignore in our rantings! A good topic in a equally good forum:)) U have been missed shainaben,whenever i visited dis forum:)
Coming to d topic...d amba n satyavati was a bit dramatic n OTT for me too n totally agree on Mo bhai getting d mute treatment here too! Bechare Mo bhai ko "kab tak chup rahenge"wali sthiti mei chhod diya hai tiwari ne.Going by d graphics n d way tiwari twists some parts for his benefit,d "shrek suhaagraat" myt b worth watching.
Tiwariji ka casting error has left a bitter taste for me to watch d episodes of ArjunSubhadra.D sooner dose get over d better i wud feel! I dont know d mahabharat dat well but still feel k tiwariji ka mahabharat is lacking in someway n its only coz of babua dat d trps vil rise a bit.
All said n done..do give us something as good as dis once in a while shainaben!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thank You & dhanyawad & aabhar ladies!
I'll add a point about today's(monday) episode: (just watched)
Did you hear .. mere Karan-Arjun (aayengey) .. mere Karan-Arjun (Aa gaye) ..in pair washing, Kuntimata's crying, Arjun huffing, Karan puffing scene?
@Betsy: For me biggest letdown of this recent 'straight out of nukkad ki mahabharat by Tiwaribhai Swastikwale' is:
new generation is getting complete weird idea of this epic! Not done!
Better stick to original ... widely accepted version.. it has enough drama!
I dislike careless use of words like 'Bahut, Chuha' etc in simple dialogues as well! "mushak, Ati.. 'not hard to find or say... they should be careful!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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really like your post...
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Grown up Arjun ... Atta Boy! Shaheerbhai... You haven't let the chanel or PH down - so far. Though, raise your hand - if , post veena vaadan in front of earlier thanexpected +scarrierthanexpected Subhadra .. Arjun's reactions post Dhrit+sons outrage reminded totally of Navvya ka Anant. With open mouth ( I heard in mental bg anant saying .. woh.. main.. lekin.. papa/chacha...) .. Hope this improves. Along with stance in standing scenes! (a special 'gadgad' note here: Shaheer, You & Somya will always be my favorite-est & I always feel proud when you go places.)


-shaheer already told that ,he also want improvement.
he also dont like his Expression on some Epi.
so he trying to improve it ..

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Subhadra... why oh- why .. oh whyšŸ˜•???? Bas!

-same question from me why why and why?????????????


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Posted: 11 years ago
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new generation is getting complete weird idea of this epic! Not done!

Better stick to original ... widely accepted version.. it has enough drama!

I dislike careless use of words like 'Bahut, Chuha' etc in simple dialogues as well! "mushak, Ati.. 'not hard to find or say... they should be careful!


EXACTLY !!! My son dsnt knw d d mahabharat n i tell him smthing n tiwariji shows smthing else!! Bachcha confuse ho raha hai, by God!!! not just dese words..d day arjun was being punished for attacking karan(aisa koi sandarbh hai kya MB mei??) in dat epi gandhari was heard saying,Arjun "mazak" kar raha hoga!! MAZAK??!! isnt dat an urdu word??jahan zaroorat hai wahan ders no shudh bhasha n unnecessarily dey use pure lingo even if its used in d wrong context. If u go thru d epis..u'll find many such words jiske meaning at dat particular tym is smthing really different!
Letz see wat else tiwariji has in store for us...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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whoaaa!!! the way u present ur thots or views..amzngšŸ˜ŠšŸ˜†
i feel tiwariji is in the awe of shaheer..thik h ..we too like the banda(being navya fans) but... SP bhi shuru ho jaega ye nahi expectd tha..wen ll they show Lord Krishna..m waiting yaar..2 wks se bas Arjun..Arjun Arjun ho raha h 😳...kutch zyada hi dramatise kar rahe h..why ? 500 ya 500+ epis banane k liye ? ..in the strtng i felt tiwariji ne impress karne ki thaan li h n kutch hadd tak successful bhi ho gaye h..but lil less we knew... was/is he busy in producing the epic with his own brand chat-masala ? "Navya" ki bhi kaafi kutch cheezein hume bilkul bekaar lagi thi" well zyada baat toh nahi kar sakte yahan uss baare mein ..nyways ..talking abt subhadra rani..ermmm! koi keh raha h she's ok gud..aur koi keh raha h she doesn't fit...my navya dil will obviously nt accept her opp. our Mr.Bajpayi šŸ˜›..the couple hardly get repeated in the tv indus..thik h ab dekhna toh padega hi
lagta h SRJ ll mk an entry(as a part of the story) thru rukmini track..hope we'll get to see him soon
Edited by surbhianya_17 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Loved your post...It is funny because as a teenager I thought Mahabharat was the original soap-opera written by Ved Vyas to entertain the masses in those cold winters huddled around fire (as we did not have TVs in those days). You have every thing...illegitimate kids, taboo relationships, question about parentage, attempt to rapes, spoilt kids, murders and conspiracies, fight over property, love affairs, elopement, revenge...the only thing missing is plastic surgery (strike that ...Pandavas managed to pull off some semblance of that in 1 year agyatvaas with even sex change (Brahinala) thrown in).
Like every good story, there are lessons to be learnt here but I am not sure if I treat it as religious text. Interestingly there are numerous parallels to Ramayan.

14 year vanvaas = 12 year exile +1 year agyatvaas
Ravan lusting after Sita = Keechak lusting after Draupadi
Shurpnakha's humiliation kicks off the conflict = Draupadi's humiliation kicks off the war
Dashrath is forced by Kaikeyi = Shantanu is forced by Satyavati
Manthra incites Kaikeyi = Shakuni incites Dhri
Vibhishan= Yuyutsu
Kumbhkaran = Vikarna
Ram win over Tataka , Subahu for their guru Vishwamitra = Arjun wins Panchal for Drona

The list continues...

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