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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheWatcher

I saw when kunti was talking about Krishna's Leela's and this doubt raised in my mind, did anyone knew who Krishna was? bheeshma,dhritashtra or anyone? it seemed none knew he was Lord himself.


Vasudeva and Devaki came to know when Krishna was born.

Bhishma didn't know until much later on- probably during his Virat roop. The only time Bhisma openly acknowledges Krishna's Narayana swaroop is when During the war, when Krishna- fed up with Arjuna's refusal to strike down Pitama takes up his sudarshan chakra.
Bhishma was certainly not aware of Krishna's divine nature initially.

Dritarashtra and the rest of the Kuru clan were blissfully unaware. and even after the Virat roop incident stubbornly refused to accept it.

Amongst the Pandavas- Arjuna realized only after the Bhagavata Gita / Vishwa roop darshan on the battlefield and it changed his equation with Krishna dramatically.

Y B N had no idea. Kunti- only after Parikshit's revival

There was one other person who knew Krishna's divine origins - not surprisingly, Sahadeva.



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lord Krishna reveals Vishwaroop to Arjun during the course of this discourse between them described in Geeta. To be exact this Chapter 11 of Geeta records the detail of how this event, called Vishwaroop Darshan, actually took place. To be able to see the Vishwaroop one needs to have some kind of super vision called divya drishti. Lord Krishna bestows divya drishti upon Arjuna temporarily. Another person, Sanjay was also endowed with divya drishti for the period of the battle of Mahabharata. Therefore, Arjuna and Sanjay were the only two persons who actually witnessed the Vishwaroop. This is the only occasion in whole of Mahabharata when Lord Krishna revealed the Vishwaroop to anyone, and to my knowledge there is no other mention of Vishwaroop Darshan in any of the ancient texts. -

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Lord Krishna reveals Vishwaroop to Arjun during the course of this discourse between them described in Geeta. To be exact this Chapter 11 of Geeta records the detail of how this event, called Vishwaroop Darshan, actually took place. To be able to see the Vishwaroop one needs to have some kind of super vision called divya drishti. Lord Krishna bestows divya drishti upon Arjuna temporarily. Another person, Sanjay was also endowed with divya drishti for the period of the battle of Mahabharata. Therefore, Arjuna and Sanjay were the only two persons who actually witnessed the Vishwaroop. This is the only occasion in whole of Mahabharata when Lord Krishna revealed the Vishwaroop to anyone, and to my knowledge there is no other mention of Vishwaroop Darshan in any of the ancient texts. - See more at: http://www.enotes.com/homework-help/how-many-times-lord-krishna-showed-vishwaroopa-91215#sthash.03McLDU9.dpuf
Lord Krishna reveals Vishwaroop to Arjun during the course of this discourse between them described in Geeta. To be exact this Chapter 11 of Geeta records the detail of how this event, called Vishwaroop Darshan, actually took place. To be able to see the Vishwaroop one needs to have some kind of super vision called divya drishti. Lord Krishna bestows divya drishti upon Arjuna temporarily. Another person, Sanjay was also endowed with divya drishti for the period of the battle of Mahabharata. Therefore, Arjuna and Sanjay were the only two persons who actually witnessed the Vishwaroop. This is the only occasion in whole of Mahabharata when Lord Krishna revealed the Vishwaroop to anyone, and to my knowledge there is no other mention of Vishwaroop Darshan in any of the ancient texts. - See more at: http://www.enotes.com/homework-help/how-many-times-lord-krishna-showed-vishwaroopa-91215#sthash.03McLDU9.dpuf
Lord Krishna reveals Vishwaroop to Arjun during the course of this discourse between them described in Geeta. To be exact this Chapter 11 of Geeta records the detail of how this event, called Vishwaroop Darshan, actually took place. To be able to see the Vishwaroop one needs to have some kind of super vision called divya drishti. Lord Krishna bestows divya drishti upon Arjuna temporarily. Another person, Sanjay was also endowed with divya drishti for the period of the battle of Mahabharata. Therefore, Arjuna and Sanjay were the only two persons who actually witnessed the Vishwaroop. This is the only occasion in whole of Mahabharata when Lord Krishna revealed the Vishwaroop to anyone, and to my knowledge there is no other mention of Vishwaroop Darshan in any of the ancient texts. - See more at: http://www.enotes.com/homework-help/how-many-times-lord-krishna-showed-vishwaroopa-91215#sthash.03McLDU9.dpuf
Lord Krishna reveals Vishwaroop to Arjun during the course of this discourse between them described in Geeta. To be exact this Chapter 11 of Geeta records the detail of how this event, called Vishwaroop Darshan, actually took place. To be able to see the Vishwaroop one needs to have some kind of super vision called divya drishti. Lord Krishna bestows divya drishti upon Arjuna temporarily. Another person, Sanjay was also endowed with divya drishti for the period of the battle of Mahabharata. Therefore, Arjuna and Sanjay were the only two persons who actually witnessed the Vishwaroop. This is the only occasion in whole of Mahabharata when Lord Krishna revealed the Vishwaroop to anyone, and to my knowledge there is no other mention of Vishwaroop Darshan in any of the ancient texts. - See more at: http://www.enotes.com/homework-help/how-many-times-lord-krishna-showed-vishwaroopa-91215#sthash.03McLDU9.dpuf
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rasyafan



But I have a feelign there was one more person who was watching the entire mahabharat. His head was cut off at the begingin of Mahabharat by shri krishn ji and I think it was Eklavya or somebody whose head had stuck on top of a mountain near the battle ground. Actually I have forgotton it but thora thora yaad hai ki aisa hi kuchh hua tha 😕

So may be he watched his virat darshan too.


You are referring to Barbareek- but that story is not in the main MB- and in all likely hood a later day interpolation.

BTW, folks-

Virat roop was taken by Krishna in the court of Hastinapur when he went there as a peace envoy. The Virat roop was witnessed by everyone present in the court.

Vishwa roop was taken by Krishna on the Kurukshetra battlefield during the Bhagavata Gita discourse. This was visible to Arjuna and Sanjaya only.

There's a difference.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: varaali


You are referring to Barbareek- but that story is not in the main MB- and in all likely hood a later day interpolation.

BTW, folks-

Virat roop was taken by Krishna in the court of Hastinapur when he went there as a peace envoy. The Virat roop was witnessed by everyone present in the court.

Vishwa roop was taken by Krishna on the Kurukshetra battlefield during the Bhagavata Gita discourse. This was visible to Arjuna and Sanjaya only.

There's a difference.



May be I did read that Krishn had beheaded someone and he gave him the boon that even with his head cut he would witness the entire battle of Mahabharat.

May be he was barbarik son of Arjun or Bheem
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sweet_Krishna

Pandavas knew that Krishna was Lord incarnate. Ved Vyas, Bheeshma, Vidura, Gandhari, Kunti, Devaki, Vasudev and all the yadavas knew that He was God incarnate.



also Dronacharya and krupacharya knew that Krishna was the incarnation of Lord himself.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweetlife



also Dronacharya and krupacharya knew that Krishna was the incarnation of Lord himself.


No.

Apart from the names I mentioned in my previous post- no body knew about Krishna's divine nature- least of all Drona and Kripa.

Once the word of his Vishwaroop darshan to Arjuna spread around, other may have accepted the idea of Krishna's divine origin- but before that - Devaki and Vasudeva were the only ones.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rasyafan

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May be I did read that Krishn had beheaded someone and he gave him the boon that even with his head cut he would witness the entire battle of Mahabharat.

May be he was barbarik son of Arjun or Bheem


Grandson of Bhima.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweetlife



also Dronacharya and krupacharya knew that Krishna was the incarnation of Lord himself.



I don't think anyone knew that he is GOD,other than his parents
Edited by TheWatcher - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I had read somewhere that only Bheesma knew Krishna's real identity.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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😊

Originally posted by: varaali


You are referring to Barbareek- but that story is not in the main MB- and in all likely hood a later day interpolation.

BTW, folks-

Virat roop was taken by Krishna in the court of Hastinapur when he went there as a peace envoy. The Virat roop was witnessed by everyone present in the court.

Vishwa roop was taken by Krishna on the Kurukshetra battlefield during the Bhagavata Gita discourse. This was visible to Arjuna and Sanjaya only.

There's a difference.


Oh thnx for the info😊... I was thinking both were same..

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